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  • Registered Users Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Dupont


    Hi all. Reading back over all the posts and my mind is fried on what to go for. I’m looking for a 3 camera system. Wired but can you have one wireless camera aswell? It’s going on a bungalow so will be about 7-8 foot off the ground. Not ir as that attracts spiders. Is it white light or something I’m looking for? And I remember reading not to use coax cable but some newer system? Has anyone got any links for such a system. Tia


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Dupont wrote: »
    Hi all. Reading back over all the posts and my mind is fried on what to go for. I’m looking for a 3 camera system. Wired but can you have one wireless camera aswell? It’s going on a bungalow so will be about 7-8 foot off the ground. Not ir as that attracts spiders. Is it white light or something I’m looking for? And I remember reading not to use coax cable but some newer system? Has anyone got any links for such a system. Tia

    Hi, the system I used is all wired, using POE

    Both my cameras are about 7-8' off the ground and have no issues with spiders

    In now 6 months and I havent had to clear any cobwebs off them yet
    Even if I did it would take a few seconds

    the 2TB hard drive I have gives me about 21 days recordings with both cameras being 4MP units


  • Registered Users Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Dupont


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    Hi, the system I used is all wired, using POE

    Both my cameras are about 7-8' off the ground and have no issues with spiders

    In now 6 months and I havent had to clear any cobwebs off them yet
    Even if I did it would take a few seconds

    the 2TB hard drive I have gives me about 21 days recordings with both cameras being 4MP units

    Would you have a link for your system


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    https://www.freetv.ie/4-channel-nvr/

    these were the cameras
    EZ by Dahua™ 4MP Turret Network Camera (30m IR, 2.8mm Lens)
    CODE: 15K_20055_KD


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 199 ✭✭Morries Wigs


    due to vandalism im looking for a non wireless small camera that i can put behind windows front of the house keep an eye on the windows from getting done in any recommendations

    any help appreciated thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    not sure about putting behind windows looking out from the inside

    any IR camera will reflect the LED's off the glass from the inside and will just show up as a a glare and you'll see nothing


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,179 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    The Hikvision ColorVu solve that problem if you can afford it, although you may have a limited view from the window depending on where you put it. You'll get some reflection from light inside the room and from outside lights. Rain will also be a bit of an issue. You can see ok but not great.


  • Registered Users Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Dupont


    Can all hikivision cameras be looked at on your phone through the app


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,380 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Dupont wrote: »
    Can all hikivision cameras be looked at on your phone through the app

    All ip cameras, yes.
    Some of the older turbos, no.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,179 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I was already very impressed by the ColorVu in almost total darkness on my road as everything was clearly visible and had good detail but now that the street lights are on bloody hell, it's such a bright and clear image. I had concerns about the camera as car lights were lighting up the image as if they had the power of the sun and rear reg plates were completely obscured by lights but this was likely the sensitivity being cranked due to extremely low light. I'm not sure if you can adjust settings to compensate for that but it's not an issue now with increased ambient light. Everything is very clear, has nice colour and car lights aren't overexposed anymore.

    Two minor downsides so far that are just due to my camera placement. With the camera mounted under my bedroom window I can't have my front windows in view without cutting off my car but I have it angled to the side a bit so my front door and side gate area are in view in the corner. Also because the path is outside my house anyone walking past is in the cameras view of my car so I have to limit motion detection to the front half of my parking spaces.

    I'll probably add another 2.8mm under the roof to keep an eye on the road in general and maybe help with motion detection alerts due to a less obscured view.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,380 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    The newer g2 colorvu have acusense which cuts out most of the false alarms and sorts shots with cars or with people from ones with animals or leaves. Might be of use to some.


  • Registered Users Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Dupont


    I bought a hikivision cctv kit. What type of cable do I need to plug into my broadband modem and then into the hard drive box for the cameras. Does this allow me to view it from my phone then?


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    Dupont wrote: »
    I bought a hikivision cctv kit. What type of cable do I need to plug into my broadband modem and then into the hard drive box for the cameras. Does this allow me to view it from my phone then?

    Network cable, like a bigger phone cable should be the one.

    If you have the correct settings, you can watch online. Should be in the instructions


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,179 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Dupont wrote: »
    I bought a hikivision cctv kit. What type of cable do I need to plug into my broadband modem and then into the hard drive box for the cameras. Does this allow me to view it from my phone then?

    If they're IP cameras then you just plug an ethernet cable from the camera into the recorder, and then the recorder to the modem. Activate platform access in the network settings on the recorder and sign in with Hik Connect app (has to be downloaded from their website, at least for Android)


  • Registered Users Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Dupont


    Network cable, like a bigger phone cable should be the one.

    If you have the correct settings, you can watch online. Should be in the instructions

    Just googling it is that a cat 6 cable?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Dupont wrote: »
    Just googling it is that a cat 6 cable?

    yes, with a RJ45 male connection. Most people have a few hanging around from routers, Virgin media and so on


  • Registered Users Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Dupont


    yes, with a RJ45 male connection. Most people have a few hanging around from routers, Virgin media and so on

    There’s a slot on the recorder labelled LAN. Is this the slot for it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,179 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    One of the CCTV YouTube channels had a video about the 8MP ColorVu bullet, mentioned something about turrets coming soon, anyone know anything about this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,380 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Dupont wrote: »
    Hi all. Reading back over all the posts and my mind is fried on what to go for. I’m looking for a 3 camera system. Wired but can you have one wireless camera aswell? It’s going on a bungalow so will be about 7-8 foot off the ground. Not ir as that attracts spiders. Is it white light or something I’m looking for? And I remember reading not to use coax cable but some newer system? Has anyone got any links for such a system. Tia
    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    Hi, the system I used is all wired, using POE

    Both my cameras are about 7-8' off the ground and have no issues with spiders

    In now 6 months and I havent had to clear any cobwebs off them yet
    Even if I did it would take a few seconds

    the 2TB hard drive I have gives me about 21 days recordings with both cameras being 4MP units

    Technically, the IR attracts flies and insects. The problem is worst during the summer. They end up triggering thousands of false positives overnight if you have motion detection enabled as they fly towards the glowing red lamp. It's possible to reduce that number by using line crossing, intrusion or face detection etc. (Face detection is pretty useless at night in many cases so don't rely on this only).
    Spiders also notice these insects and decide to construct a web close to the glowing red IR lamp. They can do so in just a few hours and the web can also cause spurious alarms. You can be lucky and have none for a while but they eventually do turn up and they keep coming back. Knocking the Web might buy you a few days but it does not stop the insects.
    I've moved all my older cameras to locations with flood lights now to avoid ever using the IR.


  • Registered Users Posts: 962 ✭✭✭Pete123456


    Maybe someone in the know could help me. I’m looking for an incline mount for a Colorvu G2 to mount in an inclined eave to level the camera. Which is the correct hik mount model to buy so that it fits?

    Looking at the ones here - maybe none of them are suitable... https://securitywatch.ie/index.php/catalogsearch/result/?q=Incline


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,637 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Pete123456 wrote: »
    Maybe someone in the know could help me. I’m looking for an incline mount for a Colorvu G2 to mount in an inclined eave to level the camera. Which is the correct hik mount model to buy so that it fits?

    Looking at the ones here - maybe none of them are suitable... https://securitywatch.ie/index.php/catalogsearch/result/?q=Incline

    https://securitywatch.ie/index.php/hikvision-inclined-ceiling-mount-ds-1281zj-m.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Got a quote for installation as follows;

    8 channel 5MP DVR with AcuSense Technology
    4TB Hard Drive
    22” Monitor
    2 X Planet unidirectional transceiver
    Hikvision 4 Port Gigabit Unmanaged POE Switch
    Hikvision DS-2CE78H8T-IT3F 60m X 4 cameras
    Hikvision DS-2CD2346G2-IU 30m IR, AcuSense, x 2 cameras
    IP Enclosure for Yard Equipment

    Reptuble company and includes installation

    Quote 2,900 euro

    What do you think, is it a fair price?


  • Registered Users Posts: 962 ✭✭✭Pete123456


    kk.man wrote: »
    Got a quote for installation as follows;

    8 channel 5MP DVR with AcuSense Technology
    4TB Hard Drive
    22” Monitor
    2 X Planet unidirectional transceiver
    Hikvision 4 Port Gigabit Unmanaged POE Switch
    Hikvision DS-2CE78H8T-IT3F 60m X 4 cameras
    Hikvision DS-2CD2346G2-IU 30m IR, AcuSense, x 2 cameras
    IP Enclosure for Yard Equipment

    Reptuble company and includes installation

    Quote 2,900 euro

    What do you think, is it a fair price?

    Based on quotes I got recently for a home cctv system I would say it’s very fair.

    Does anybody know if it’s possible to hire an ip cam tester? Just looking to make some adjustments to the fields of view


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,380 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    kk.man wrote: »
    Got a quote for installation as follows;

    8 channel 5MP DVR with AcuSense Technology
    4TB Hard Drive
    22” Monitor
    2 X Planet unidirectional transceiver
    Hikvision 4 Port Gigabit Unmanaged POE Switch
    Hikvision DS-2CE78H8T-IT3F 60m X 4 cameras
    Hikvision DS-2CD2346G2-IU 30m IR, AcuSense, x 2 cameras
    IP Enclosure for Yard Equipment

    Reptuble company and includes installation

    Quote 2,900 euro

    What do you think, is it a fair price?

    Ask for the DS-2CD2346G2-IU to be made into the DS-2CD2347G2-IU.
    The latter is the newer version of the ColorVu but also has Acusense. Game changer!

    Also, it's odd to see the mix of cameras above as the acusense are IP Network cameras (ethernet) whereas the others are Turbo (coax).

    You could probably do the above for about 1500 DIY but each to their own.


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,026 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Ask for the DS-2CD2346G2-IU to be made into the DS-2CD2347G2-IU.
    The latter is the newer version of the ColorVu but also has Acusense. Game changer!

    Also, it's odd to see the mix of cameras above as the acusense are IP Network cameras (ethernet) whereas the others are Turbo (coax).

    You could probably do the above for about 1500 DIY but each to their own.


    Aren't those ColorVU camera abit intrusive with the light on them all night, I had a 5mp Dahua one i got before Christmas and put it up there yesterday just to try it out and tbh, I thought the white light was very bright on it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,380 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Aquos76 wrote: »
    Aren't those ColorVU camera abit intrusive with the light on them all night, I had a 5mp Dahua one i got before Christmas and put it up there yesterday just to try it out and tbh, I thought the white light was very bright on it.

    It depends on the firmware. I have been running an Australian version which only triggers the white light on detection. Admittedly you need to have a bit of light from the street or other sources to allow it see enough to identify any movement. It really depends on your installation, but I far prefer it to my old Darkfighters and their IR attracting insects to the red glow!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 ramirodelojo


    If you think that most security systems are similar to each other, then you are of course partly right. However, there are striking differences between wired and modern wireless options. You can read more about it on the internet, if you're interested. For example, I advise you to take a look at ajax, which has the ability to fully manage through a mobile application on a smartphone. You can simultaneously control the cameras and view the image from them online and edit the sensitivity of some sensors. This is very convenient.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    I've got cat 6 points outside for cctv. IP Cameras have rj45 and power connectors. Can I run the data over 3 pairs on the cat 6, and then just use the other two for power? Am I right to think 4 pairs are only needed for high speed data?


  • Registered Users Posts: 962 ✭✭✭Pete123456


    Effects wrote: »
    I've got cat 6 points outside for cctv. IP Cameras have rj45 and power connectors. Can I run the data over 3 pairs on the cat 6, and then just use the other two for power? Am I right to think 4 pairs are only needed for high speed data?

    If the cameras have rj45 points you probably don’t need the power (unless they’re high powered ptz or something) just connect the cat 6 cable into the camera and the other end into the NVR - that should be enough


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭poker--addict


    Is there a huge saving in doing this DIY? Is there much of a middle ground in terms of buying the gear my self and paying someone to install?

    I am far from an electrician but I suspect I could self install, but that comes with the time cost of several hours figuring it out, as well as doing the actual install.

    will be looking at a system with at least 4 cameras, likely 6.

    😎



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