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does Ireland have a growing underclass?

  • 10-05-2020 10:45PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭


    just went out to the kitchen to make a cuppa and walked in on a show that shows people watching TV, anyway to cut to the chase they were watching that god awful stuff "dont tell the bride" voiced over by a chap that sounds like a hoarse nicky byrne. the people on it had about as much class as i dont know what , awful language out of them watching the show as well. just simply very low level entertainment, the langauge was not good though even if its 10:30 pm. basically they just all seemed very common. i got to thinking, are we gaining a bigger underclass in ireland. this sort of vulgar cohort of society were usually just found in England once upon a time. seem to be very common these days.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,310 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Correct use of uppercase and paragraphs are beyond them too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,407 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    just went out to the kitchen to make a cuppa and walked in on a show that shows people watching TV, anyway to cut to the chase they were watching that god awful stuff "dont tell the bride" voiced over by a chap that sounds like a hoarse nicky byrne. the people on it had about as much class as i dont know what , awful language out of them watching the show as well. just simply very low level entertainment, the langauge was not good though even if its 10:30 pm. basically they just all seemed very common. i got to thinking, are we gaining a bigger underclass in ireland. this sort of vulgar cohort of society were usually just found in England once upon a time. seem to be very common these days.




    You might give examples of this "awful language".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    like curseing


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,310 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    like curseing

    Cursing? :eek:

    Why I never ...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Pre-emptively suggesting this thread be renamed "A Thick C*nt Watched a TV Show about Thick C*nts".


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    People are just becoming more vulgar in general..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭4Ad


    tHIS thread is goIng 2 bee Good..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,457 ✭✭✭✭Kylta


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    just went out to the kitchen to make a cuppa and walked in on a show that shows people watching TV, anyway to cut to the chase they were watching that god awful stuff "dont tell the bride" voiced over by a chap that sounds like a hoarse nicky byrne. the people on it had about as much class as i dont know what , awful language out of them watching the show as well. just simply very low level entertainment, the langauge was not good though even if its 10:30 pm. basically they just all seemed very common. i got to thinking, are we gaining a bigger underclass in ireland. this sort of vulgar cohort of society were usually just found in England once upon a time. seem to be very common these days.

    Your remote control is the answer to your issue. Change the channel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    just went out to the kitchen to make a cuppa and walked in on a show that shows people watching TV, anyway to cut to the chase they were watching that god awful stuff "dont tell the bride" voiced over by a chap that sounds like a hoarse nicky byrne. the people on it had about as much class as i dont know what , awful language out of them watching the show as well. just simply very low level entertainment, the langauge was not good though even if its 10:30 pm. basically they just all seemed very common. i got to thinking, are we gaining a bigger underclass in ireland. this sort of vulgar cohort of society were usually just found in England once upon a time. seem to be very common these days.

    Please, PLEASE open the pubs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    just went out to the kitchen to make a cuppa and walked in on a show that shows people watching TV, anyway to cut to the chase they were watching that god awful stuff "dont tell the bride" voiced over by a chap that sounds like a hoarse nicky byrne. the people on it had about as much class as i dont know what , awful language out of them watching the show as well. just simply very low level entertainment, the langauge was not good though even if its 10:30 pm. basically they just all seemed very common. i got to thinking, are we gaining a bigger underclass in ireland. this sort of vulgar cohort of society were usually just found in England once upon a time. seem to be very common these days.

    The only people who appear on these shows are "look at me" types, you'll actually notice the same ones showing up on different things,this shyte,FirstDates Ireland, random Virgin123 shows, playing to the camera's is all they know, copying crap UK shows is cheaper than developing new ones.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    just went out to the kitchen to make a cuppa and walked in on a show that shows people watching TV, anyway to cut to the chase they were watching that god awful stuff "dont tell the bride" voiced over by a chap that sounds like a hoarse nicky byrne. the people on it had about as much class as i dont know what , awful language out of them watching the show as well. just simply very low level entertainment, the langauge was not good though even if its 10:30 pm. basically they just all seemed very common. i got to thinking, are we gaining a bigger underclass in ireland. this sort of vulgar cohort of society were usually just found in England once upon a time. seem to be very common these days.

    The Irish were always an underclass to the British Empire, I hate to tell it to you but any class system we have today is self created and fake and unless you come from a line of British land owners you are just a few generations away from a farmer.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    I can't handle any more scandal on board's every time I come in I end up having a rant that could take me anywhere, I mean there's no limit to what I could say in a response..

    But I am resisting this one, it's killing me inside not to go down the rabbit hole...

    Will I, no I can't do it..

    Need to call a friend..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭con___manx1


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    just went out to the kitchen to make a cuppa and walked in on a show that shows people watching TV, anyway to cut to the chase they were watching that god awful stuff "dont tell the bride" voiced over by a chap that sounds like a hoarse nicky byrne. the people on it had about as much class as i dont know what , awful language out of them watching the show as well. just simply very low level entertainment, the langauge was not good though even if its 10:30 pm. basically they just all seemed very common. i got to thinking, are we gaining a bigger underclass in ireland. this sort of vulgar cohort of society were usually just found in England once upon a time. seem to be very common these days.
    Just because they use bad language doesn't mean they are a lower class. My doctor for instance every second word out of his mouth is ****. He also drinks alot and smokes. If your down the pub you would never think he was a doctor.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Just because they use bad language doesn't mean they are a lower class. My doctor for instance every second word out of his mouth is ****. He also drinks alot and smokes. If your down the pub you would never think he was a doctor.

    Reminds me of my dad bringing me fishing with his mates, it was like a new phase in my life, I joined in and he said not in front of my mother...I was 13, but getting the right to be a curser by my dad was e new relationship between us, we often have **** chat's, bastard this bastard that, he's a ****er, she's a bitch I grew up like that, shower or wapskallions we were ****ing this **** that...

    I find it's the middle classes and new wave new money who frown on cussing, the working class and upper classes love a good old ****, bastard,wanker, prick,****off, **** you it's ****ing endless...

    I'm ****ed after that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    The underclass has been there a long time but the whole "salt of the earth" type character tends to be celebrated by certain media outlets.

    Whilst a lot of people enjoyed them, I think Roddy Doyles Barrytown series in the long term has played a very negative role in Irish society. A lot of talking heads and social commentors would have said that the Barrytown Series made people proud of where they are from and how they speak. In the short to medium term thats generally good BUT, and it's a massive but, people from certain type of areas get boxed in to a persona that revolves around the character of the area. And that is a very bad thing.

    Other TV shows like Shameless, again lauded at first but in reality the characters are absolute vermin. They are locked into the areas character. This is where we are from and this is how people from here act.

    As somebody who comes from a working class area which is turning into more of a welfare class area, I grew up in a culture where people celebrated how "mad" their estate is. It was almost a competition to see who's area is the kippiest. It's a race to the bottom and nobody wins from it.

    A dose of light snobbishness isnt the worst thing in the world. People should be trying to go upwards not downwards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,998 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    wannabe knackers are common enough as well. you even find it with people from respectable family's, parents who did their best for their kids but the result can be a son or daughter who wont work, takes drugs, deals drugs, steals from their own family, gets into trouble with the police, beats their partner,gets involved with a partner who is a scumbag, basically does everything they shouldn't be doing.

    it would put you off having kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    The whole point of those shows is to look.onto someone else's life so you can pick out the ways your life is better then theirs. You chose to look down on their "vulgar" language. Another viewer might have taken the p1ss out of their home decoration style and dress sense. Another viewer would take the p1ss out of their culchie accent or wherever else.

    If you have a poorly decorated house or a culchie/regional/working class accent, then you overlook those things and single out the ways in which you feel superior to them. That's the point of the show and you did it.

    You're just watching the show correctly.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    You know what I find interesting is that in the UK and Ireland, there is a strong association between class and accents. In both countries "North" accents are considered lower class as these are the less affluent areas (North Dublin, North of England) whereas the south London and south Dublin accent are considered respectable.

    America is totally different in this regard. Sure the Southern/redneck accent can be considered the equivalent of the "chav/knacker" accent but other than that, poor white Americans can speak the exact same way as rich white Americans


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,632 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I'd consider your username vulgar!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭sasta le


    Big time its a huge elephant in the room


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    I'd consider your username vulgar!

    Are you talking to me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Eggs For Dinner


    Are you talking to me?

    Very unlikely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Sometimes life imitates art TV


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭LeYouth


    I have a growing fungal infection, does that count?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,208 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Thinly veiled " I've got a TV in my kitchen" brag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,747 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Please, PLEASE open the pubs.

    Or just stop putting warning labels on stuff...
    It will eventually solve this "problem" when they all start making cocktails with the TCP and bleach ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,747 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    LeYouth wrote: »
    I have a growing fungal infection, does that count?

    Depends!
    Is it on your toes or your junk?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    In modern day Ireland those who never worked a day or very little are having large families paid for by the tax payer...whilst the very same tax payer can only afford to have 1 or 2 children .

    The workers of the country are been outbred by the wasters of our land .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    wannabe knackers are common enough as well. you even find it with people from respectable family's, parents who did their best for their kids but the result can be a son or daughter who wont work, takes drugs, deals drugs, steals from their own family, gets into trouble with the police, beats their partner,gets involved with a partner who is a scumbag, basically does everything they shouldn't be doing.

    it would put you off having kids.

    The guys from Terenure College were like that. Acting all tough, and “hard”, wearing little ronnies and sounding like a Honda 50 taking off when they spoke.

    They’d be giving it socks throwing out ‘me ma’ this and ‘giz me 10 spot’ that but when the big new SUV pulled up in front of the school you’d hear ‘bye bye, mummy!’ ring out when they alighted.

    As that recent song ‘What School Did You Go To?’ recent lampooned, there was always one, or two, who had an older brother who would act like a complete “toerag”, bullying lads 3, or 4, years younger than him and dealing small amounts of drugs.

    Embarrassing stuff really and, of course, they would be looked down on by all the other schools. They’re always referred to as “The Gick”.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,998 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    The guys from Terenure College were like that. Acting all tough, and “hard”, wearing little ronnies and sounding like a Honda 50 taking off when they spoke.

    They’d be giving it socks throwing out ‘me ma’ this and ‘giz me 10 spot’ that but when the big new SUV pulled up in front of the school you’d hear ‘bye bye, mummy!’ ring out when they alighted.

    As that recent song ‘What School Did You Go To?’ recent lampooned, there was always one, or two, who had an older brother who would act like a complete “toerag”, bullying lads 3, or 4, years younger than him and dealing small amounts of drugs.

    Embarrassing stuff really and, of course, they would be looked down on by all the other schools. They’re always referred to as “The Gick”.



    I never knew people from posh schools in Dublin did that, that is pathetic, imagine being their parents. It is like tom hanks son who tried to be a gangster rapper even though he grew up up in beverly hills to a millionaire father.


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