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fred funk }{

Are we getting a statement today does anyone know?

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antgal23

fred funk }{ wrote: »

Are we getting a statement today does anyone know?

I hope so

gman127

They've been very slow to release some advice / guidelines.

Leaving clubs to decide themselves will end up with a lot of discrepencies between clubs

brick tamland

gman127 wrote: »

They've been very slow to release some advice / guidelines.

Leaving clubs to decide themselves will end up with a lot of discrepencies between clubs

Clubs will decide themselves anyway. Roganstown did the last time.

Plenty wont be able to survive if its members only I reckon. Already down bar/restaurant money, subs will be down this year and loss of income over last 8 weeks. No societys or green fees for months will doom plenty of clubs.

gman127

brick tamland wrote: »

Clubs will decide themselves anyway. Roganstown did the last time.

Plenty won't be able to survive if its members only I reckon. Already down bar/restaurant money, subs will be down this year and loss of income over last 8 weeks. No societies or green fees for months will doom plenty of clubs.

Very true. While there will be some clubs who go rogue, most will follow GUI advice, as they did when closure recommendations were issued.

They can't if no guidance is issued though or it's left so late that they've already gone their own direction

tritriagain

gman127 wrote: »

Very true. While there will be some clubs who go rogue, most will follow GUI advice, as they did when closure recommendations were issued.

They can't if no guidance is issued though or it's left so late that they've already gone their own direction

Pathetic non reaction from gui. Leadership is needed . Whether that's regarding formats, distance travelled etc. Personally I think they should stay closed until open to everyone.

kod12

They just announced on twitter they hope to release it today all going well

mike12

It's a very odd thing when u think about it.

The government have said you can play golf but only travel 5km it's simple.

Not sure what the GUI should can add to that.
We have to follow the government for social distancing and bring that to the course it should be that simple.
Most courses had set up the pro shop and facility to cope with the government guidelines.
What can the Gui recommend?
From the 18th groups of 4 can meet up if they social distance what more is there to add?

First Up

I think it won't start properly until the travel distance goes to 20k on June 8th. Until then it's just for a handful and while the clubs get organised.

mike12

First Up wrote: »

I think it won't start properly until the travel distance goes to 20k on June 8th. Until then it's just for a handful and while the clubs get organised.

Agree for the first 2 weeks isn't is best that the crowds are small and clubs get organised for the busyness in June.
If it's not phased then by June it will be mayhem.

GreeBo

mike12 wrote: »

It's a very odd thing when u think about it.

The government have said you can play golf but only travel 5km it's simple.

Not sure what the GUI should can add to that.
We have to follow the government for social distancing and bring that to the course it should be that simple.
Most courses had set up the pro shop and facility to cope with the government guidelines.
What can the Gui recommend?
From the 18th groups of 4 can meet up if they social distance what more is there to add?

Exactly.

I also find it strange that people complain about poorly thought out regulations and also complain that the governing body is taking too long thinking about the regulations.

it feels a bit like

Rackstar

mike12 wrote: »

It's a very odd thing when u think about it.

The government have said you can play golf but only travel 5km it's simple.

Not sure what the GUI should can add to that.
We have to follow the government for social distancing and bring that to the course it should be that simple.
Most courses had set up the pro shop and facility to cope with the government guidelines.
What can the Gui recommend?
From the 18th groups of 4 can meet up if they social distance what more is there to add?

I’d imagine they will give a summary of what is and isn’t allowed and ask that members and clubs strictly adhere to the restrictions. They will want to do everything they can to protect the game from negative publicity.

Golfgraffix

I can’t see it being much different the RandA advice

https://www.randa.org/en/news/2020/04/golf-in-the-uk-under-covid-19-restrictions

tvc15

Golfgraffix wrote: »

I can’t see it being much different the RandA advice

https://www.randa.org/en/news/2020/04/golf-in-the-uk-under-covid-19-restrictions

So 10 minute intervals for 4 balls and no restriction on the clubs to only allow members? Sounds reasonable with all the other restrictions that will be put in place but I have a feeling the GUI will go full on with 14 minute 3 balls and members only.

Of course the 5km is a given

Glebee

Hopefully this thread does not go the same way as the Coronavirus precautions thread.:D

Stacksey

Glebee wrote: »

Hopefully this thread does not go the same way as the Coronavirus precautions thread.:D

Why do they bother closing down busy threads like that, I don't get it

Stacksey

Glebee wrote: »

Hopefully this thread does not go the same way as the Coronavirus precautions thread.:D

Why do they bother closing down busy threads like that, I don't get it

CalamariFritti

It had gone a bit tit for tat, but we're not supposed to discuss other threads either.

GreeBo

Stacksey wrote: »

Why do they bother closing down busy threads like that, I don't get it

Was nice knowing you.

CalamariFritti

tvc15 wrote: »

So 10 minute intervals for 4 balls and no restriction on the clubs to only allow members? Sounds reasonable with all the other restrictions that will be put in place but I have a feeling the GUI will go full on with 14 minute 3 balls and members only.

Of course the 5km is a given

I skimmed over the RandA document and didnt see anything about number of players and intervals. Did I read over it too quickly?

tvc15

CalamariFritti wrote: »

I skimmed over the RandA document and didnt see anything about number of players and intervals. Did I read over it too quickly?

>Bookings
>Clubs/facilities to organise a system of booking and allocation of tee times that ensures the safety of staff and golfers.

>The maximum number of golfers in a group per tee time to be confirmed by the club/facility and must be in accordance with any government requirements.

>There is to be a minimum of 10 minute intervals between tee times, but longer intervals may be more appropriate depending on the club/facility.

So given the government recommended max of 4 per group that would apply

Mushy

Leaving it a bit late arent they

fred funk }{

There's no excuse to not have a statement out before now. They must have known since the shutdown started that we would need an opening up plan of some sort. What were they doing all week that we/clubs still don't know what the plan is at this stage.

dan_ep82

https://www.golfnet.ie/news/golfnet/4661/unions-publish-protocol-for-golfs-safe-return

dan_ep82

No member guests allowed until the second phase on the 8th.

Clubs either choose

In club comps from the 8th, opens from the 29th

3 balls max until third phase

fred funk }{

A fair bit to take in there.

dan_ep82

Neither of my brothers are members at my club so it looks like I will be looking for some partners for a while.

trishasaffron

No mention of 5k....or is there?

Benicetomonty

trishasaffron wrote: »

No mention of 5k....or is there?

Not that I can see.
Or inter club comps. Comps within clubs allowed frm june 8th. Open comps from 29th june.

HighLine

Thankfully the GUI were sensible and left the 5k distance restrictions to be dealt with by the appropriate authorities... i.e. the Gardaí

youcancallmeal

The short version is its the same restrictions that most clubs had in place before the full lockdown

big_drive

Excellent plan I think. Well put together, easy to see what happens and when

redarmy

Government policy in relation to travel applies at all times.

fred funk }{

Hard to find too much wrong with ATM but I do think as the summer goes on things will improve a lot and some of the restrictions will seem over the top but they seem to have allowed for a change if needed.

mike12

There will be a lot of phone calls to mates who are members looking for games

Ollieboy

Benicetomonty wrote: »

Not that I can see.
Or inter club comps. Comps within clubs allowed frm june 8th. Open comps from 29th june.

They are talking about starting inter-club in August, pie in the sky stuff because courses can’t afford to give up tee spots in that short timespan.

New Handicap system still planning to be implemented.

So from 8 to 4 pm midweek that only allows 103 people out to play.

Weekend is 7 to 4 so will allow 115. Some clubs will really struggle with access.

Thankfully we have 27 holes so we can double that number.

Mushy

Nothing surprising in there really. Let's hope from the 18th onwards has weather like today

Mantis Toboggan

Surprised they haven't stopped the over 70's or people with underlying conditions are they're the people most at risk.

HighLine

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Surprised they haven't stopped the over 70's or people with underlying conditions are they're the people most at risk.

Probably to avoid litigation. There are no legally binding Government restrictions on over 70s.

johntommy

Why allow members to bring guests on June 8th. Membership over 1000 euro per year. It will be hard enough to get on timesheet without allowing non members to play before people who have paid big annual fees.

Carazy

Website has folded!

DeanAustin

Seems a fairly sensible plan and is out 10 days in advance. What on earth was all the grumbling and panic about?

Wombatman

Should be raining cats and dogs on the 18th so.

Can you play from the 18th? It’s mad if it can’t be done.

frostie500

Ollieboy wrote: »

So from 8 to 4 pm midweek that only allows 103 people out to play.

Weekend is 7 to 4 so will allow 115. Some clubs will really struggle with access.

I suggested to my club to limit it to nine holes (or at least open the booking system for both nines where you select a tee time for both) cos otherwise you'll have a lot of members playing nine and thatll be it. Half the course available but noone able to play it. Its good that we'll have golf back tho

johntommy

frostie500 wrote: »

I suggested to my club to limit it to nine holes (or at least open the booking system for both nines where you select a tee time for both) cos otherwise you'll have a lot of members playing nine and thatll be it. Half the course available but noone able to play it. Its good that we'll have golf back tho

Great idea

FixdePitchmark

frostie500 wrote: »

I suggested to my club to limit it to nine holes (or at least open the booking system for both nines where you select a tee time for both) cos otherwise you'll have a lot of members playing nine and thatll be it. Half the course available but noone able to play it. Its good that we'll have golf back tho

This is a great idea -

9 holes only.

Fair play something being issued - but the 14 mins is OTT.

morrga

HighLine wrote: »

Probably to avoid litigation. There are no legally binding Government restrictions on over 70s.

Interesting comment as it must also be discrimination to stop members playing based on geographical location. All members have equal rights.

willabur

morrga wrote: »

Interesting comment as it must also be discrimination to stop members playing based on geographical location. All members have equal rights.

But some rights are more equal than others. Have to wait for the 20km limit comes in before I can think about launching them

Ollieboy

frostie500 wrote: »

I suggested to my club to limit it to nine holes (or at least open the booking system for both nines where you select a tee time for both) cos otherwise you'll have a lot of members playing nine and thatll be it. Half the course available but noone able to play it. Its good that we'll have golf back tho

Yes we considered this but with 27 holes we feel two starting holes should be enough as some people will respect the distance rule and over 70 recommendations.

Malahide are also 27 and starting with 3 nines. We’ve spoken to the Danes so we tried to learn from them what went wrong and what was done well.

Just a comment, no club can or will enforce the 5k s or 70’s. Any club that does, will have a legal issue.

CalamariFritti

Its totally over the top. Monumentally even. Still looking for the right adjective tbh.

My issue is mostly with group sizes and intervals. Its distancing we need to be doing not emigrating.

Edit: One can only hope that the clubs will ignore this bit. Probably won't tho.

> Do not arrive at the first tee more than 5 minutes before your allotted tee time.

Well that won't be a problem Thats my normal time of arrival. I can do less even if needed.