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Brother works in Denmark but is in Ireland

  • 04-05-2020 9:16pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭


    Brother was working in Denmark. Came home before Danish lockdown.
    Denmark now opening up and his company want him back over on site.
    What’s the story with this? Can he refuse to go?
    If he goes over, can he come home after a few days without quarantining here for two weeks?
    TIA


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    He should go back to work and be grateful to be in Denmark with it all opened up. I wouldn't need to be asked twice if i was him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,645 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I'd be on the first plane out of this nanny state back to sanity. Would cross Europe by train if I had to. Your brother is lucky


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    Nice to see the first two comments here are from people who think their god given right to make money outweighs many people's right to live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    He can refuse to go by handing in his notice.

    Regarding quarantine I am sure its 14 days here no exceptions.

    The way things are gone you pick your country then stay there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    2ndcoming wrote: »
    Nice to see the first two comments here are from people who think their god given right to make money outweighs many people's right to live.

    Says the person who will be on here next year moaning because there's no budget for health service/social welfare.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,385 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    if he goes over has to be planning on staying over for a few months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,645 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    2ndcoming wrote: »
    Nice to see the first two comments here are from people who think their god given right to make money outweighs many people's right to live.

    The Danes are very sensible balanced people. They're not reactionary over emotional types. Like so many here. The business would not want their staff back if it was risky.
    Fantastic to see Europe opening up and getting back to real life. Will mount pressure on the over cautious pen pushing lemons "running" things here right now.
    No one is stopping anyone living, cocoon forever you feel necessary- I couldn't really care less tbh. But let the rest of us that want to get on with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    Stark wrote: »
    Says the person who will be on here next year moaning because there's no budget for health service/social welfare.

    Ahh, of course. You only want to make money to fund the state's coffers. How altruistic of you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,241 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    The profits must flow. Everything else follows from that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    2ndcoming wrote: »
    Ahh, of course. You only want to make money to fund the state's coffers. How altruistic of you.

    I need it for food and rent and to live funnily enough. But you don't have to worry, the temporary Covid payment will last forever with no-one working.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    road_high wrote: »
    The Danes are very sensible balanced people. They're not reactionary over emotional types. Like so many here. The business would not want their staff back if it was risky.
    Fantastic to see Europe opening up and getting back to real life. Will mount pressure on the over cautious pen pushing lemons "running" things here right now.
    No one is stopping anyone living, cocoon forever you feel necessary- I couldn't really care less tbh. But let the rest of us that want to get on with it.

    I've been working throughout this crisis. Every country is different, Denmark has less than half as many cases as us, and less than half as many deaths. They also closed their borders to their neighbours very early, something we can't do and unfortunately our neighbours are the good old keep calm and carry on brigade. How is that working out for them? It's a similar mentality to what you're displaying here. Unless you're an epidemiologist I suggest you suck it up, listen to the public health advice and play your part like everyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,241 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    Stark wrote: »
    I need it for food and rent and to live funnily enough. But you don't have to worry, the temporary Covid payment will last forever with no-one working.

    This excuse for a country is run by a bunch of chicken littles wailing that the sky is about to fall in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,645 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    ZeroThreat wrote: »
    This excuse for a country is run by a bunch of chicken littles wailing that the sky is about to fall in.

    Many indeed wishing that that were the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,645 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Stark wrote: »
    I need it for food and rent and to live funnily enough. But you don't have to worry, the temporary Covid payment will last forever with no-one working.

    Expect that to rise on the agenda from now on. Can imagine it'll be phased out starting with the next set of workplace types to return- once/if your job is gone you'll have to apply for the standard Jobseekers Benefit/Allowance and tough **** and sorry thereafter. That's what facing many now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    easypazz wrote: »
    He can refuse to go by handing in his notice.

    Regarding quarantine I am sure its 14 days here no exceptions.

    The way things are gone you pick your country then stay there.

    That's his other option, Quit and go on the dole.

    Denmark, this shouldn't even be a question...if he doesn't go he is daft in my opinion.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Why would he not want to go? Does he have an underlying condition and if he does go why would he want to go home after such a short period?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Probably...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I guess he still wants to be able to see family back in Ireland. Which unfortunately will probably mean he won't see them this side of Christmas if he does go. Tough choices to be made alright.

    On the plus side, they seem to have things nicely under control over there and looks like people can have a somewhat normal life. Would be no question in my mind of going over personally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,977 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Yeah, so if he refuses to go - he might get sacked, so there is that. But I assume it would take a while to arrange flights etc, so probably he's got some leeway there.

    And coming back for a few days wouldn't work, because you're supposed to self-isolate for 2 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    In all of this though, just how would he get there?

    There are no direct flights. If you "transit" through Heathrow now, say, do you have to quarantine there for 14 days before you can fly on to Denmark and then do another 14 days? Its not just as simple as "go back" I don't think.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Presumably his work have worked out some sort of flight arrangements?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Its not really up to them though. Now if they were good employers, maybe they would, but if its a "get your ass back to work no matter what" company then they really don't have to. Its up to him. His place of work is in Denmark its up to him to get there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭JDMC2


    It’s a large company based in Denmark. Most other non-Danish residents have started to return onsite. He is currently working from home in Ireland.
    He has a family, mortgage and child at college so, like everyone else, he needs a job.
    He’s quite specialised and his job does not exist in Ireland.
    Just a general question.....is everyone that flies into Dublin airport asked to, or forced to quarantine themselves for fourteen days?
    Before you all start, he would not break the rules and is very conscientious about following the protocols.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    Depends on what procedures are in place in Denmark. He should really ask his employers.

    Be as well off ringing Adrian Kennedy as asking around here tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    JDMC2 wrote: »
    Just a general question.....is everyone that flies into Dublin airport asked to, or forced to quarantine themselves for fourteen days?
    .


    Yes. Everyone landing in Ireland from abroad has to quarantine for 14 days. They have to provide a name/address/phonenumber for where they are going to do this.



    Quite how much checking up goes on I don't know though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,989 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    road_high wrote: »
    I'd be on the first plane out of this nanny state back to sanity. Would cross Europe by train if I had to. Your brother is lucky

    Lol.

    If you think Ireland is a nanny state, you'd have a seizure in Denmark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    JDMC2 wrote: »
    Brother was working in Denmark. Came home before Danish lockdown.
    Denmark now opening up and his company want him back over on site.
    What’s the story with this? Can he refuse to go?
    If he goes over, can he come home after a few days without quarantining here for two weeks?
    TIA

    Top tip OP if you ever read advice from the first or second poster in this thread.

    Always. Always do the opposite thing.



    Always.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    Has your brother headed off yet? well he should have


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    JDMC2 wrote: »
    Brother was working in Denmark. Came home before Danish lockdown.
    Denmark now opening up and his company want him back over on site.
    What’s the story with this? Can he refuse to go?
    If he goes over, can he come home after a few days without quarantining here for two weeks?
    TIA


    If he was capable of getting a job in Denmark and they want him back he be capable of deciding this one himself, as i read in some of the posts he will not need a nanny...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭JDMC2


    He spoke with his company and, for the moment, they are not expecting him to return so, that’s a relief.
    It’s back to being the same as everyone else....wait and see....he’s happy to do so.


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