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Anyone any advice between these two laptops?

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  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    thas asus has only 4gb ram and it's soldered in so not upgradable so I'd skip it as you really want 8gb these days and into the future

    the Huawei is all-metal more premium build

    but I'd go for this laptop also made by Huawei (just a sub-brand). it's the same price

    all-metal also and same cpu, ssd, ram but neater and has better battery life (bigger battery) than the matebook d 15.

    use addresspal or similar to get deilvery to Ireland from Uk.

    https://www.box.co.uk/products/keywords/magicbook/ex/true

    Review of the magicbook


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Cheers Glasso, I had actually a pm typed out to you yesterday asking for some advice on this very subject, (as incould tell this is something you seem to know a lot about) but then chickened out at the end as I didn't want to burden you with an uninvited task :p

    Will be having a look online later - but if you think that will do the job I'd be happy enough with your recommendation.

    As I said, it will never be under too much stress in this office, bit of excel, word, browsing etc, not even sure if what I'm picking out is overkill tbh.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think that it's better if people post as opposed to pms.

    I think that is a very nice laptop and is very well built, also portable and with fast charging.

    should last a good few years.

    for the quality offered it is very good value imo

    a lot of people just look at specs but build-quality should also be high up on the list.

    another factor is the thermal / cooling / fans design on that laptop. That, coupled with dual-channel ram means the max can be obtained out of that 3500u cpu - factors that are not apparent from just looking at the headline specs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,888 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Glasso,
    does the laptop in the link above have WiFi?
    Its not stated?
    Thanks as always

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Glasso,
    does the laptop in the link above have WiFi?
    Its not stated?
    Thanks as always

    yes it does.

    all laptops released in the last 15 years have wifi but if you're not confident on the subject no harm in asking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,812 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    glasso wrote: »
    I think that it's better if people post as opposed to pms.

    I think that is a very nice laptop and is very well built, also portable and with fast charging.

    should last a good few years.

    for the quality offered it is very good value imo

    a lot of people just look at specs but build-quality should also be high up on the list.

    another factor is the thermal / cooling / fans design on that laptop. That, coupled with dual-channel ram means the max can be obtained out of that 3500u cpu - factors that are not apparent from just looking at the headline specs.

    Glasso, would you recommend that laptop for the following:

    Coding (Python)
    Podcasting (recording/editing)
    Video editing (to a lesser extent than the above two)

    I dithered over that Lenovo offer that was going around for the new IdeaPad 5 with Ryzen processor, and I'm kicking myself now. Even had it in my basket for €555.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Glasso, would you recommend that laptop for the following:

    Coding (Python)
    Podcasting (recording/editing)
    Video editing (to a lesser extent than the above two)

    I dithered over that Lenovo offer that was going around for the new IdeaPad 5 with Ryzen processor, and I'm kicking myself now. Even had it in my basket for €555.

    will handle that no problem

    it's a lot nicer build than the lenovo 5 and the newer amd cpu is mainly just bragging rights more than anything most people will never actually use to 100% regularly really.

    it's a great little laptop universally well reviewed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,812 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    glasso wrote: »
    will handle that no problem

    it's a lot nicer build than the lenovo 5 and the newer amd cpu is mainly just bragging rights more than anything most people will never actually use to 100% regularly really.

    it's a great little laptop universally well reviewed

    Cheers. One other question. Can the 8Gb RAM be upgraded to 16gb if needed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 727 ✭✭✭Craigels


    Where can I view this with the intel processor?


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cheers. One other question. Can the 8Gb RAM be upgraded to 16gb if needed?

    no, it's soldered like a lot of laptops these days

    tbh unless you are doing a lot of video editing at 4k (1080p fine) this laptop will be fine


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  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Craigels wrote: »
    Where can I view this with the intel processor?

    seems to be only really available with the ryzen 5

    it's a good cpu and runs well in this laptop

    and has better graphics capability


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭sibersha


    I'm looking for something in similar price range (maybe a bit cheaper), seen the below recently which looks like good value but not sure about build quality and one month delivery wait.

    https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/asus-ryzen-5-3500u-8gb-512gb-ssd-14-inch-fhd-windows-10-laptop-a412da-ek609t/version.asp

    Any thoughts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    Hello Everyone.

    Could someone offer an opinion on this Lenovo machine which I saw while looking at the Honor Magicbook.
    https://www.box.co.uk/81V5001AUK-Lenovo-V155-15API_2808677.html#DetailTop

    Stay safe.
    Thanks.
    Tony.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    sibersha wrote: »
    I'm looking for something in similar price range (maybe a bit cheaper), seen the below recently which looks like good value but not sure about build quality and one month delivery wait.

    https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/asus-ryzen-5-3500u-8gb-512gb-ssd-14-inch-fhd-windows-10-laptop-a412da-ek609t/version.asp

    Any thoughts?

    plastic vs metal

    non ips screen

    cpu won't run as well as in the honor (thermals)

    battery not as big as honor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,812 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    glasso wrote: »
    no, it's soldered like a lot of laptops these days

    tbh unless you are doing a lot of video editing at 4k (1080p fine) this laptop will be fine

    Thanks. And one final question. I can get the below spec'd laptop from Lenovo for €575 (which is €40 cheaper than the Honor). How do the two compare? Am I wrong to lean towards the Lenovo because it has 16GB over the 8GB of the Honor?

    Configuration Details
    Processor : AMD Ryzen 7 3700U Processor (2.30GHz, Max Boost up to 4.0GHz, 4 Cores, 4MB Cache )
    Operating System : Windows 10 Home 64
    Preload Language : Windows 10 Home 64 English
    Microsoft Office : Microsoft Office Trial
    Color : Platinum Grey
    Selectable Memory : 16GB DDR4 2400MHz SoDIMM
    Total Memory : 16GB DDR4 2400MHz Onboard
    Second Hard Drive : 256GB Solid State Drive, 2.5", TLC
    Optical Device : Dummy ODD Platinum Grey
    Display : 15.6" FHD (1920x1080), TN, 220nits, Anti-glare, No touch
    Graphic Card : Integrated Graphics
    Keyboard : Keyboard Grey English (UK)
    Camera : 720p HD Camera with Single Microphone
    Surface Treatment : IMR
    Palmrest : PC/ABS
    Battery : 3 Cell Li-Polymer Internal Battery, 36Wh
    Power Adapter : 65W Wall Mount AC Adapter (2pin)-UK
    WiFi Wireless LAN Adapters : Wireless 1x1 AC, Bluetooth Version 4.1 or above
    Language Pack : Publication-English
    Warranty : 1 Year Depot or Carry-in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 727 ✭✭✭Craigels


    Ordered the magicbook from box UK


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thanks. And one final question. I can get the below spec'd laptop from Lenovo for €575 (which is €40 cheaper than the Honor). How do the two compare? Am I wrong to lean towards the Lenovo because it has 16GB over the 8GB of the Honor?

    Configuration Details
    Processor : AMD Ryzen 7 3700U Processor (2.30GHz, Max Boost up to 4.0GHz, 4 Cores, 4MB Cache )
    Operating System : Windows 10 Home 64
    Preload Language : Windows 10 Home 64 English
    Microsoft Office : Microsoft Office Trial
    Color : Platinum Grey
    Selectable Memory : 16GB DDR4 2400MHz SoDIMM
    Total Memory : 16GB DDR4 2400MHz Onboard
    Second Hard Drive : 256GB Solid State Drive, 2.5", TLC
    Optical Device : Dummy ODD Platinum Grey
    Display : 15.6" FHD (1920x1080), TN, 220nits, Anti-glare, No touch
    Graphic Card : Integrated Graphics
    Keyboard : Keyboard Grey English (UK)
    Camera : 720p HD Camera with Single Microphone
    Surface Treatment : IMR
    Palmrest : PC/ABS
    Battery : 3 Cell Li-Polymer Internal Battery, 36Wh
    Power Adapter : 65W Wall Mount AC Adapter (2pin)-UK
    WiFi Wireless LAN Adapters : Wireless 1x1 AC, Bluetooth Version 4.1 or above
    Language Pack : Publication-English
    Warranty : 1 Year Depot or Carry-in

    only if you need 16gb - do you?
    nothing in it the the cpu
    the build quality of the magicbook is excellent - all-metal chassis.
    220 nits is not very bright - will appear dark.
    it's not ips
    battery is very small.

    don't do it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    amdaley28 wrote: »
    Hello Everyone.

    Could someone offer an opinion on this Lenovo machine which I saw while looking at the Honor Magicbook.
    https://www.box.co.uk/81V5001AUK-Lenovo-V155-15API_2808677.html#DetailTop

    Stay safe.
    Thanks.
    Tony.




    Anyone please ?

    Thank you.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    amdaley28 wrote: »
    Anyone please ?

    Thank you.


    inferior build quality (plastic vs metal chassis), screen (non-ips) and battery life. has a bigger ssd yes.

    same cpu but it runs better in the honor due to better thermal design

    honor magicbook 14 / matebook d 14 easily worth the extra £40 or £50


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    glasso wrote: »
    inferior build quality (plastic vs metal chassis), screen (non-ips) and battery life. has a bigger ssd yes.

    same cpu but it runs better in the honor due to better thermal design

    honor magicbook 14 / matebook d 14 easily worth the extra £40 or £50

    Thanks glasso.
    Its appreciated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    glasso wrote: »
    thas asus has only 4gb ram and it's soldered in so not upgradable so I'd skip it as you really want 8gb these days and into the future

    the Huawei is all-metal more premium build

    but I'd go for this laptop also made by Huawei (just a sub-brand). it's the same price

    all-metal also and same cpu, ssd, ram but neater and has better battery life (bigger battery) than the matebook d 15.

    use addresspal or similar to get deilvery to Ireland from Uk.

    https://www.box.co.uk/products/keywords/magicbook/ex/true

    Review of the magicbook

    Am about to pull the pin on it, just hanging on for a pm ref one of the Lenovos from the other thread (someone ordered a metal palm rest and also ordered a standard so might be one going for cost) if that falls through, I'll get this one.

    Just letting you know Argos UK are the same price as these lads but with 3.95 delivery, just wondering if there's any benefit to ordering from box v Argos?

    https://www.argos.co.uk/product/7449310


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,812 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Am about to pull the pin on it, just hanging on for a pm ref one of the Lenovos from the other thread (someone ordered a metal palm rest and also ordered a standard so might be one going for cost) if that falls through, I'll get this one.

    Just letting you know Argos UK are the same price as these lads but with 3.95 delivery, just wondering if there's any benefit to ordering from box v Argos?

    https://www.argos.co.uk/product/7449310

    I managed to get the Huawei Matebook 14 (same laptop) from Amazon with free shipping through Prime.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    yes matebook d currently £540 (+ a bit more Irish VAT at checkout = £553)

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Huawei-MateBook-2020-Multi-Screen-Collaboration/dp/B083T5HFPX/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=matebook%2Bd14&qid=1589919175&sr=8-4&th=1

    as Amazon's service is usually so good could be worth going for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Honor having a sale tomorrow I think, laptop for 549, with a free backpack and 2nd generation smart watch.

    They also have money off vouchers and free delivery to the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Rochey18 wrote: »
    Honor having a sale tomorrow I think, laptop for 549, with a free backpack and 2nd generation smart watch.

    They also have money off vouchers and free delivery to the UK.

    What site?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭ClaptonBay


    It's on the honor website itself..seems they are launching a UK site from what I gather. You can spin a wheel to win a coupon which you can use then. I got a £15 one so will use it. Might try to shift the watch as have a Garmin already.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ClaptonBay wrote: »
    It's on the honor website itself..seems they are launching a UK site from what I gather. You can spin a wheel to win a coupon which you can use then. I got a £15 one so will use it. Might try to shift the watch as have a Garmin already.

    link to the honor website itself uk ordering part?

    edit - found it

    https://www.hihonor.com/unitedkingdom/product/honor-magicbook-14#18244166142598


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭ClaptonBay


    glasso wrote: »
    link to the honor website itself uk ordering part?

    edit - found it

    https://www.hihonor.com/unitedkingdom/product/honor-magicbook-14#18244166142598

    Sorry was on the mobile. Seems a good offer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    ClaptonBay wrote: »
    It's on the honor website itself..seems they are launching a UK site from what I gather. You can spin a wheel to win a coupon which you can use then. I got a £15 one so will use it. Might try to shift the watch as have a Garmin already.

    You can have 3 spins but you won't get more than a £15 voucher.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭ClaptonBay


    amdaley28 wrote: »
    You can have 3 spins but you won't get more than a £15 voucher.

    Yeah got the 5,10,15..doubt you can stack them though and use in one go?


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    the deal with the included smartwatch and backpack is excellent and not to be missed if you're in the market for a new laptop.

    even if don't want/need the smartwatch you could fairly easily sell it for €100 as it's a good one and costs £130 new

    so if you get a £15 voucher that's £535 + addresspal etc for the lot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    ClaptonBay wrote: »
    Yeah got the 5,10,15..doubt you can stack them though and use in one go?


    The coupons are for different amounts bought.
    To use the $15 one you need to spend over $150. €10 over €100 & €5 over €50.

    You could probably use only one coupon per order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    glasso wrote: »
    the deal with the included smartwatch and backpack is excellent and not to be missed if you're in the market for a new laptop.

    even if don't want/need the smartwatch you could fairly easily sell it for €100 as it's a good one and costs £130 new

    so if you get a £15 voucher that's £535 + addresspal etc for the lot


    I presume you could also use DPD in NI ?

    Also there seems to be only the 256Gb SSD available.
    You can get the Huawei version with a 512Gb SSD on Amazon for £50 more but not with the watch of course.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    amdaley28 wrote: »
    I presume you could also use DPD in NI ?

    Also there seems to be only the 256Gb SSD available.
    You can get the Huawei version with a 512Gb SSD on Amazon for £50 more but not with the watch of course.

    ssd is user up-gradable (clicks in and out) down the line of course. you're not stuck with that size forever.

    it also has a memory card reader so you could stick an sd card for storage of media files etc which would be ok for that sort of file storage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,812 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    glasso wrote: »
    ssd is user up-gradable (clicks in and out) down the line of course. you're not stuck with that size forever.

    it also has a memory card reader so you could stick an sd card for storage of media files etc which would be ok for that sort of file storage

    I didn't realise SSD was click-in/out. This is great news. I got the 256GB version, so it's good to know I can do that in future.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    glasso wrote: »
    ssd is user up-gradable (clicks in and out) down the line of course. you're not stuck with that size forever.

    it also has a memory card reader so you could stick an sd card for storage of media files etc which would be ok for that sort of file storage


    I couldn't see any memory card reader ?
    I wouldn't have minded paying an extra £50 for a 512GB SSD option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    glasso wrote: »
    the deal with the included smartwatch and backpack is excellent and not to be missed if you're in the market for a new laptop.

    even if don't want/need the smartwatch you could fairly easily sell it for €100 as it's a good one and costs £130 new

    so if you get a £15 voucher that's £535 + addresspal etc for the lot

    Yeah my mind's made up, buying this (if I get the Lenovo it'll be an added) cheers Glasso.

    Can't seem to buy until tomorrow, 10am though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭ClaptonBay


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Yeah my mind's made up, buying this (if I get the Lenovo it'll be an added) cheers Glasso.

    Can't seem to buy until tomorrow, 10am though?

    Yep correct.

    Agree might try and sell the honor watch, might get 80/100 quids for it. Would end up a good deal then. Seen they were giving free earbuds on the french site. Probably would have kept the buds if they were part of the offer but waiting on a delivery of Tronsmart ace earphones anyway.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    amdaley28 wrote: »
    I couldn't see any memory card reader ?
    I wouldn't have minded paying an extra £50 for a 512GB SSD option.

    actually yep, no sd card reader.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Bought the space grey one with the bag and watch for £535,

    The silver one didn't appear to be available to me, and wouldn't you know as soon as I paid - it was. :mad:

    Might have a look and see if there's a chat function available that will let me switch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Was lucky enough to get the silver.

    Probably try sell the watch, as I doubt I'll use it.

    €590 all in, happy with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    Two things stopped me from buying.
    The lack of a card reader & no option to chooses a 512GB SSD.
    Sure I could have probably sold the watch but I'd have given that up for a card reader & a larger SSD.
    Good luck to everyone who bought one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 onsite


    anybody go with this and not receive an email confirmation? I got an order confirmation which i didn't keep expecting to receive e-mail confirmation but haven't received anything, I can see the payment is pending on my credit card. Have tried contacting customer support but it timed out on their side. anybody have the same issue? I cant see anything in my Honor account either that i created.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    onsite wrote: »
    anybody go with this and not receive an email confirmation? I got an order confirmation which i didn't keep expecting to receive e-mail confirmation but haven't received anything, I can see the payment is pending on my credit card. Have tried contacting customer support but it timed out on their side. anybody have the same issue? I cant see anything in my Honor account either that i created.

    No I got an email straight away, took a while for the order to show up on the account though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    onsite wrote: »
    anybody go with this and not receive an email confirmation? I got an order confirmation which i didn't keep expecting to receive e-mail confirmation but haven't received anything, I can see the payment is pending on my credit card. Have tried contacting customer support but it timed out on their side. anybody have the same issue? I cant see anything in my Honor account either that i created.


    I was watching & they seem to have run out of them pretty quick so maybe that's it ?

    You can still order them onsite but delivery date is 27th May for the silver & 3rd June for the grey.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    amdaley28 wrote: »
    I was watching & they seem to have run out of them pretty quick so maybe that's it ?

    You can still order them onsite but delivery date is 27th May for the silver & 3rd June for the grey.

    not surprising.

    it's a fantastic deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 onsite


    amdaley28 wrote: »
    I was watching & they seem to have run out of them pretty quick so maybe that's it ?

    You can still order them onsite but delivery date is 27th May for the silver & 3rd June for the grey.

    Actually the confirmation e-mail went to my wifes e-mail address as its her account for delivery via Parcel Motel. I was able to eventually see the order in my honor account as pending delivery so think I'm good, looking forward to getting this now plus the watch! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 727 ✭✭✭Craigels


    We got the space grey honor magicbook 14 and we are thrilled with it. The build quality is excellent. Its so lightweight and portable. Battery seems good but would need to test more. Only negative is the pop up camera but we knew about that before ordering. All in all we are very ease with it. We ordered from box and delivery was very quick to Ireland. Thanks for your reccomendation and help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    amdaley28 wrote: »
    I was watching & they seem to have run out of them pretty quick so maybe that's it ?

    You can still order them onsite but delivery date is 27th May for the silver & 3rd June for the grey.
    glasso wrote: »
    not surprising.

    it's a fantastic deal.


    Temptation was to great so splashed out on a silver one on the HONOR Uk site.
    As you said "fantastic deal"
    You wouldn't get anything like it for the money anywhere else.
    And with the watch added in was a no brainer.

    The only difficulty I had was trying to get my full DPD Parcel Wizard address in.
    Fifty characters between address line 1 & 2 meant any proper punctuation went out the window.
    Have no idea where the fifty character limit came from ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭ClaptonBay


    amdaley28 wrote: »
    Temptation was to great so splashed out on a silver one on the HONOR Uk site.
    As you said "fantastic deal"
    You wouldn't get anything like it for the money anywhere else.
    And with the watch added in was a no brainer.

    The only difficulty I had was trying to get my full DPD Parcel Wizard address in.
    Fifty characters between address line 1 & 2 meant any proper punctuation went out the window.
    Have no idea where the fifty character limit came from ?

    Looks like at least another 7-10 days before delivery :( asked on livechat this morning


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