Off Topic Thread 5.0

Dave_The_Sheep

Podge_irl wrote: »

Basically, its nothing like Ireland and the comparisons are not helpful.

Whilst we don't have a Brexit scenario to compare to and the principle of people in positions of leadership breaking rules that they impose on the rest of the population is the same, I suppose at least they (in Ireland) have paid some price and didn't just brazen it out.

So yeah, fair point, well made.

OldRio

Whataboutery and deflection.

Ah bollox to politics. 'Do as I say. Not as I do.'

Bazzo

I see that Kellyane Conway has resigned her position. A slight whiff of rats fleeing the sinking ship maybe (hopefully)?

thomond2006

Bazzo wrote: »

I see that Kellyane Conway has resigned her position. A slight whiff of rats fleeing the sinking ship maybe (hopefully)?

No this is a legitimate family issue. Her husband George who is part the Republican anti-Trump group Lincoln Project is stepping back as well. Their teenage daughter has been posting some concerning videos about her relationship with her parents and wanting to gain emancipation. It's not a healthily functioning household.

FACECUTTR

stephen_n wrote: »

Am re-reading 1984 at the moment, not sure it can be classed as fiction anymore.

I'm reading it myself at the moment too.

Squidgy Black

thomond2006 wrote: »

No this is a legitimate family issue. Her husband George who is part the Republican anti-Trump group Lincoln Project is stepping back as well. Their teenage daughter has been posting some concerning videos about her relationship with her parents and wanting to gain emancipation. It's not a healthily functioning household.

It's really quite sad. Can't even imagine growing up in a household like that where both parents are in the public eye on completely different ends of the political spectrum and taking jabs at each other.

awec

Squidgy Black wrote: »

It's really quite sad. Can't even imagine growing up in a household like that where both parents are in the public eye on completely different ends of the political spectrum and taking jabs at each other.

They aren't on different ends of the spectrum, George Conway is a republican, he's just not a Trump republican. They're just two different flavours of the same thing.

awec

awec wrote: »

They aren't on different ends of the spectrum, George Conway is a republican, he's just not a Trump republican. They're just two different flavours of the same thing.

Kellyanne is probably Trump's most competent spokesperson. What she is capable of saying and defending with a straight face is astonishing and she is the best in the business at muddying the waters on an issue and diluting the administrations failures with whataboutery and 'alternative facts' as she coined it.

It's a loss for Trump for sure, and whilst it's being framed as a family issue I think this is just Kellyanne getting off the ship plenty early. When I heard about the resignation I saw some of the daughters tweets and she is definitely gone a bit unhinged, but that isn't a new development either whereas Trump is beginning to look un-electable.

Walking away now from the administration / Lincoln project means that both political operatives can keep their bibs a little bit clean for the next show.

Former Former

Remember when Kellyanne Conway coined the term 'alternative facts' and we all thought it was gas?

Then it turned out to be a policy manifesto for the subsequent four years.

Former Former

Former Former wrote: »

Remember when Kellyanne Conway coined the term 'alternative facts' and we all thought it was gas?

Then it turned out to be a policy manifesto for the subsequent four years.

And the ideology and methods have been fully adopted in England also.

Quite a rapid decline of Democratic norms in a very short space of time and it's spreading.

sydthebeat

as an aside ot the politics....

theres a very interesting event due to take place in Florida in the near future

https://futurism.com/florida-releasing-billion-genetically-modified-mosquitoes?ref=thefuturist

The US EPA have approved a plan to basically release 750 million mutant mosquitoes in order to suffocate the population of mosquitoes in the state. As you can imagine there are many environmentalist movements against this plan, the biggest argument against is more along the lines of the unknown effects on other ecosystems, than any love for the humble mosquito itself.
The mutant bugs are designed so that the females die away at larvae stage, so in the process the population is rapidly diminished.

While this has occurred already as a test in Juazeiro in brazil, the outcomes, while initially successful, has thrown up some unexpected results.. including that the population jumped back up within 18 months and the new population are more resilient to control attempts

The outcome of this will be extremely interesting to follow

Podge_irl

Spent a week in northern Italy there earlier this month. The mosquitoes were enough to almost single-handedly ruin the whole trip. Hate the bastards.

Neil3030

sydthebeat wrote: »

as an aside ot the politics....

theres a very interesting event due to take place in Florida in the near future

https://futurism.com/florida-releasing-billion-genetically-modified-mosquitoes?ref=thefuturist

The US EPA have approved a plan to basically release 750 million mutant mosquitoes in order to suffocate the population of mosquitoes in the state. As you can imagine there are many environmentalist movements against this plan, the biggest argument against is more along the lines of the unknown effects on other ecosystems, than any love for the humble mosquito itself.
The mutant bugs are designed so that the females die away at larvae stage, so in the process the population is rapidly diminished.

While this has occurred already as a test in Juazeiro in brazil, the outcomes, while initially successful, has thrown up some unexpected results.. including that the population jumped back up within 18 months and the new population are more resilient to control attempts

The outcome of this will be extremely interesting to follow

Yeah I was at a talk last year by some researchers plotting a similar approach, but where the mutants produce impotent male offspring. Concerns regarding impact on the ecosystem were voiced, but the researchers were adamant that the approach would only be used with invasive mosquito species that were never part of a food web in a given area, and pretty much just moved in and spread disease.

Neil3030

Podge_irl wrote: »

Spent a week in northern Italy there earlier this month. The mosquitoes were enough to almost single-handedly ruin the whole trip. Hate the bastards.

Ah the tiger mosquitos of Emilia Romagna. Can't say I'll ever miss those insatiable pests.

sydthebeat

sydthebeat wrote: »

as an aside ot the politics....

theres a very interesting event due to take place in Florida in the near future

https://futurism.com/florida-releasing-billion-genetically-modified-mosquitoes?ref=thefuturist

The US EPA have approved a plan to basically release 750 million mutant mosquitoes in order to suffocate the population of mosquitoes in the state. As you can imagine there are many environmentalist movements against this plan, the biggest argument against is more along the lines of the unknown effects on other ecosystems, than any love for the humble mosquito itself.
The mutant bugs are designed so that the females die away at larvae stage, so in the process the population is rapidly diminished.

While this has occurred already as a test in Juazeiro in brazil, the outcomes, while initially successful, has thrown up some unexpected results.. including that the population jumped back up within 18 months and the new population are more resilient to control attempts

The outcome of this will be extremely interesting to follow

Simpsons did it already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9yruQM1ggc

Squidgy Black

sydthebeat wrote: »

as an aside ot the politics....

theres a very interesting event due to take place in Florida in the near future

https://futurism.com/florida-releasing-billion-genetically-modified-mosquitoes?ref=thefuturist

The US EPA have approved a plan to basically release 750 million mutant mosquitoes in order to suffocate the population of mosquitoes in the state. As you can imagine there are many environmentalist movements against this plan, the biggest argument against is more along the lines of the unknown effects on other ecosystems, than any love for the humble mosquito itself.
The mutant bugs are designed so that the females die away at larvae stage, so in the process the population is rapidly diminished.

While this has occurred already as a test in Juazeiro in brazil, the outcomes, while initially successful, has thrown up some unexpected results.. including that the population jumped back up within 18 months and the new population are more resilient to control attempts

The outcome of this will be extremely interesting to follow

Why is it that this entire year just seems like a brand new season of Black Mirror.

swiwi_

sydthebeat wrote: »

as an aside ot the politics....

theres a very interesting event due to take place in Florida in the near future

https://futurism.com/florida-releasing-billion-genetically-modified-mosquitoes?ref=thefuturist

The US EPA have approved a plan to basically release 750 million mutant mosquitoes in order to suffocate the population of mosquitoes in the state. As you can imagine there are many environmentalist movements against this plan, the biggest argument against is more along the lines of the unknown effects on other ecosystems, than any love for the humble mosquito itself.
The mutant bugs are designed so that the females die away at larvae stage, so in the process the population is rapidly diminished.

While this has occurred already as a test in Juazeiro in brazil, the outcomes, while initially successful, has thrown up some unexpected results.. including that the population jumped back up within 18 months and the new population are more resilient to control attempts

The outcome of this will be extremely interesting to follow

Like when they introduced stoats in NZ to curb the rampant rabbit population which had also been introduced? This will end well.

MaybeMaybe

sydthebeat wrote: »

as an aside ot the politics....

theres a very interesting event due to take place in Florida in the near future

https://futurism.com/florida-releasing-billion-genetically-modified-mosquitoes?ref=thefuturist

The US EPA have approved a plan to basically release 750 million mutant mosquitoes in order to suffocate the population of mosquitoes in the state. As you can imagine there are many environmentalist movements against this plan, the biggest argument against is more along the lines of the unknown effects on other ecosystems, than any love for the humble mosquito itself.
The mutant bugs are designed so that the females die away at larvae stage, so in the process the population is rapidly diminished.

While this has occurred already as a test in Juazeiro in brazil, the outcomes, while initially successful, has thrown up some unexpected results.. including that the population jumped back up within 18 months and the new population are more resilient to control attempts

The outcome of this will be extremely interesting to follow

I have had about 40 mosquito bites so far this summer, could be more. I welcome this. hopefully there are no adverse side affects

b.gud

Next time you get a pizza drizzle some spicy honey on it, you can thank me later

Yeah_Right

swiwi_ wrote: »

Like when they introduced stoats in NZ to curb the rampant rabbit population which had also been introduced? This will end well.

Or when the Aussies introduced cane toads to kill the sugar cane beetle. Great idea.

sydthebeat

b.gud wrote: »

Next time you get a pizza drizzle some spicy honey on it, you can thank me later

WTF is spicy honey???

Buer

sydthebeat wrote: »

WTF is spicy honey???

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest it's some manner of spiced honey.

sydthebeat

Buer wrote: »

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest it's some manner of spiced honey.

Sounds like an oxymoroic abomination to me.

b.gud

sydthebeat wrote: »

WTF is spicy honey???

Honey that is cooked with chilies to give it a spicy kick. This is the recipe I based mine off. I'm looking forward to trying it with more things. I'm thinking fried chicken next

b.gud

sydthebeat wrote: »

Sounds like an oxymoroic abomination to me.

Don't knock it til you've tried it, it's a really great mix of spicy and sweet.

sydthebeat

b.gud wrote: »

Don't knock it til you've tried it, it's a really great mix of spicy and sweet.

i guess i mainly use honey on tea, breakfast and toast... so the idea of giving it a spicy kick doesnt make any sense to me.

if i want something sweet with a kick, say for a curry, i just use one of the many hot chutneys like spiced mango.

but your right, ill try it and see.. .just not in my tea

b.gud

sydthebeat wrote: »

i guess i mainly use honey on tea, breakfast and toast... so the idea of giving it a spicy kick doesnt make any sense to me.

if i want something sweet with a kick, say for a curry, i just use one of the many hot chutneys like spiced mango.

but your right, ill try it and see.. .just not in my tea

Yeah it depends on the use case, spicy honey in tea definitely doesn't sound nice. I made sure to put the spicy honey as far away from the regular as possible to avoid any unfortunate mix ups

Probably the best Superman movie made to date was just released. It's an animated movie, loses it's way a bit in the final act but a much more interesting take on the origin of Superman: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11079116/

Yeah_Right

b.gud wrote: »

Honey that is cooked with chilies to give it a spicy kick. This is the recipe I based mine off. I'm looking forward to trying it with more things. I'm thinking fried chicken next

Thank you. That looks fantastic. Definitely going to give that a go. Chicken wings and ribs will probably be first on the list. Recently made my own spicy bourbon BBQ sauce. So much better than anything you can buy in the shop.

b.gud

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Thank you. That looks fantastic. Definitely going to give that a go. Chicken wings and ribs will probably be first on the list. Recently made my own spicy bourbon BBQ sauce. So much better than anything you can buy in the shop.

NP it is really ridiculously easy to make too, only takes 5 minutes. Mmmm chicken wings sounds good, next time I do some Buffalo wings I'll leave some aside to try out with the honey. That sounds nice though I don't find myself eating BBQ sauce as much as I used to.