When do you reckon pubs/nightclubs will reopen?

JeffreyEpspeen

My arbitrary guess is March 2021.

Rothko

We'd be lucky if it's before the end of the year.

kanadams123

My guess would be January 2021

completedit

End of summer. It's too hard to know. If the general sentiment becomes let those who most vulnerable protect themselves, then it will be sooner than we think

Ubbquittious

When ever the few survivors of the impending apocalypse decide they need to open one for nostalgic reasons

Danzy

Nightclubs, maybe next year, pubs late Summer but things would want to go well for that, re treatment, rapid testing options.

JeffreyEpspeen

My previous estimate of March 2021 was a bit silly now that I think about it. No way they'd reopen days from St Patricks Day. That'd be a recipe for disaster.

Zebra3

Young adults seem to be the safest from the virus.

Restrictions for them should be lifted ahead of everyone else.

If done that way, pubs/clubs for restricted ages could probably open well before the year's end.

greensausage

Early July for pubs with reduced opening hours, nightclubs/late bars open in December

cj maxx

July I reckon. But with limited admittance, to ensure distancing, beer gardens . Card only

completedit

ID checks for over 35's

completedit

completedit wrote: »

ID checks for over 35's

I'll be back to the days of the fake ID so!

cj maxx

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'll be back to the days of the fake ID so!

Yeah right. Like the 27 yos who make a point of proving to the bouncers they're over 18, like it was even in doubt it:)

dockysher

Once the travel restrictions are eased your just going find people having bigger housepartys.
I really miss going pub but everyone will get used to this as new normal.
A lot cheaper and good houseparty just as good of craic.

Potential-Monke

My guess will be too soon, but only time will tell. I'm actually pretty impressed with the overall effort Ireland is putting into this, so I can't see them relaxing the rules too early.

joeym82

If they're not open by the end of the summer I question how many will re-open at all. Government can't backstop them all forever.

FFVII

This is all starting to seem massively overblown.

dd973

They're open already ad hoc style in Coolock, Darndale, Tallaght, Finglas West, Kilbarrack...

All round to Jayo's house, BOYB, Drugs supplied.

branie2

When they are told they can open

FFVII

branie2 wrote: »

When they are told they can open

Thanks for that

JeffreyEpspeen

branie2 wrote: »

When they are told they can open

You're no fun.

Arghus

What a headfck that'll be - having to convince the bouncer you're underage.

Ah, I think attempting to put a date on it is impossible. You'd like to think, best case scenario, that it could possibly be August - September. But, honestly, I think that's optimistic. If they are open before the end of year they'll be doing well.

FFVII

Arghus wrote: »

What a headfck that'll be - having to convince the bouncer you're underage.

Ah, I think attempting to put a date on it is impossible. You'd like to think, best case scenario, that it could possibly be August - September. But, honestly, I think that's optimistic. If they are open before the end of year they'll be doing well.

Sweden ain't doing to bad at all and they did nothing really.

Italy seem to call every death a Corona death for awhile and got this huge number breaking news every day for weeks.

If you were fired out through the window in a car crash it was Corona fault.

Our HSE is woeful so we took a nuclear option.

Open everything with restrictions I say

touts

Pubs as we knew them are basically gone. Those that do reopen will be more like the wine bars Michael McDowell tried to introduce a few years ago.

Zebra3

Zebra3 wrote: »

Young adults seem to be the safest from the virus.

Restrictions for them should be lifted ahead of everyone else.

If done that way, pubs/clubs for restricted ages could probably open well before the year's end.

yes, but some not so great news on that front

seven-fold increase in strokes due to CV19 in younger people

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/494140-doctors-warn-coronavirus-causing-sudden-strokes-in-younger-patients

touts

touts wrote: »

Pubs as we knew them are basically gone. Those that do reopen will be more like the wine bars Michael McDowell tried to introduce a few years ago.

they were actually a good idea but the LVA cnuts shut it down with their lobbying.

Suckit

I'm guessing they will have a staggered opening.
Anytime of the year is guaranteed to have people cramming into the pub, so they will avoid it when there is also holidays.
Summer, and the off chance of a week of hot weather - nope.
October during flu season - nope
November and the run up to Christmas...... Nope.

I think a good idea would be to allow pubs open to locals only (random ID checks maybe to double check). With maybe also time restrictions for the amount of time allowed to stay there on one visit to see how it goes..
More rural locations could maybe be a little more relaxed. More populated areas (e.g. Dublin City) could divide up the pubs by area.
Allow x amount of people in per square meter.
Tourists/visitors may get some sort of tourist/visitor card so as to not stifle things entirely.

It will have to be a staggered opening no matter what, but how they decide to do it will be another thing. There is no way that there is going to a day that says "Pubs are open".... There would be mayhem.

Queues into the place would also not be allowed. So maybe prebooking.

Arghus

FFVII wrote: »

Sweden ain't doing to bad at all and they did nothing really.

Italy seem to call every death a Corona death for awhile and got this huge number breaking news every day for weeks.

If you were fired out through the window in a car crash it was Corona fault.

Our HSE is woeful so we took a nuclear option.

Open everything with restrictions I say

Sweden has nearly 2000 deaths. At least. That's probably only a percentage of their actual death toll.

There's been a lot of talk about how things have been done in Sweden, but if you read or listen to reports from people in the country it's clear, that while the mandatory lock-down hasn't happened, people are still limiting their movements, loads of people are working from home etc, etc. Life isn't just carrying on 100% as normal. Lots of Swedes live on their own and don't have busy crowded pubs as the cornerstone of social life. What works for Sweden, may not work for us.

Our health system isn't top of the class, everyone knows this. It wouldn't take much for it to be overwhelmed. And that would have knock on effects. Many people who are ill and require treatment, irrespective of Covid, wouldn't get it because the resources would be stretched so thin. That's loads more unnecessary death, suffering and misery. It wouldn't be good.

That remark about every death in Italy being recorded as a Corona death isn't true and is pretty stupid.

matchthis

10:30am

JeffreyEpspeen

This thread is pretty depressing.

Suckit

JeffreyEpspeen wrote: »

This thread is pretty depressing.

They may relax the laws for public drinking.. small groups... :pac::D


(maybe) a little.

wakka12

FFVII wrote: »

Sweden ain't doing to bad at all and they did nothing really.

Italy seem to call every death a Corona death for awhile and got this huge number breaking news every day for weeks.

If you were fired out through the window in a car crash it was Corona fault.

Our HSE is woeful so we took a nuclear option.

Open everything with restrictions I say

Sweden did far from nothing, elderly are cocooning the majority of people are working from home and there are widespread social distancing measures in place including a ban on large gatherings. It's a big myth that they're not doing anything

PTH2009

Very soon I hope but not expecting it. Heart says June but head says **** knows

What was the wine bar idea that the Vintners shut down?

dotsman

I would like to think bars will be open by June. Nightclubs, maybe at the same time, maybe a bit later.

Ultimately, we are going to have to move from a model of lockdown to a model of general freedom, with some restrictions and a lot of personal responsibility.

People who live with or care for vulnerable will definitely have to avoid nightclubs/busy pubs etc, but there's no reason they can't enjoy a quieter establishment, especially with a beer garden etc.

For a lot of young boggers* in Dublin, a serious choice will need to be made Either socialise in Dublin or go home to visit the parents, but you can't do both. i.e. if planning on going home for a weekend, you would need to self-impose a strict, low-risk routine that involves avoiding bars/clubs/houseparties in the 2 weeks beforehand etc.

Gigs, festivals and sporting events do need to be kept closed until year-end at least.

If people force the politicians to keep bars/clubs closed during the summer, then we are going to have even bigger problems. Locking down for a few weeks is tolerable, even an element of fun. Locking down for months on end will do serious physiological damage and completely destroy the economy and people's lives because of it.

*said with all due respect

magic_murph

Zebra3 wrote: »

Young adults seem to be the safest from the virus.

Restrictions for them should be lifted ahead of everyone else.

If done that way, pubs/clubs for restricted ages could probably open well before the year's end.

young adults can still carry the virus so giving them freedom to mingle wouldn't be a good idea

JohnnyFlash

Jesus, I’d love to sit up on a bar stool and drink 10 pints of stout. Even better if there was horse racing on the television.

B.A._Baracus

Wouldn't the social distancing rule have to be abolished before pubs and clubs could open?
You can run shops with social distancing but not pubs.

Only my two cents is but the shops will slowly open then pubs later.

DEFTLEFTHAND

I'd say the summer is gone tbh.

Probably towards September time for pubs.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

If we get a testing system close to China's where we are using an app. Pubs could just check everyone before going in that they were clear.

Obviously still miles away from this.

Ted_YNWA

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