Truth about traveller crime

Thelonious Monk

Anyone watching on Channel 4 now? They'd never make a show like this on RTE.

normanoffside

https://twitter.com/SirStevoTimothy/status/1250881178091040774

normanoffside

This is 'Big' Joe's son, also famous for filming while forcing his 5 y/o son to drink a pint of Guinness

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-52312479

Skyfloater

It's a bit of a rubbish show if truth be told.

Notdeco

Skyfloater wrote: »

It's a bit of a rubbish show if truth be told.

It's not, it's about time the truth was told about these gangsters/*race*(bull****e/ special privilege arseholes)
You won't see a program like this on an Irish station.

Fair play ch4.

Urquell

Galway needs more Roof Koreans

Silentcorner

Notdeco wrote: »

It's not, it's about time the truth was told about these gangsters/*race*(bull****e/ special privilege arseholes)
You won't see a program like this on an Irish station.

Fair play ch4.

We have often had to rely on British TV for exposing political corruption, church sex abuse scandals....now traveller crime, the stats were one and a half times the national average around the gypsy camps.

Irish Media have no backbone...remember what happened to Peter Casey when he dared question that travellers occupy houses built for them!!!

Skyfloater

Notdeco wrote: »

It's not, it's about time the truth was told about these gangsters/*race*(bull****e/ special privilege arseholes)
You won't see a program like this on an Irish station.

Fair play ch4.

Did you learn a single thing that you didn't already know?

whisky_galore

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/shocking-footage-emerges-of-50-kmph-sulky-race-on-busy-n22-road-994441.html

Culture.

Atlantic Dawn

whisky_galore wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/shocking-footage-emerges-of-50-kmph-sulky-race-on-busy-n22-road-994441.html

Culture.

Cabin fever must have set in.

The_Kew_Tour

normanoffside wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SirStevoTimothy/status/1250881178091040774

It’s funny they say Irish people are racist towards them but yet they do same thing.

But hey culture and all that..

KrustyUCC

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/video-shows-man-beaten-hurley-18104008

Part of an ongoing feud on the northside of Cork City

Plumbthedepths

Anyone surprised?

JustAThought

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Anyone surprised?

No - but nobody bothers because nothing ever has or will be done about it. Vermin supported by money hungry legal and itinerant career vermin.

Eric Cartman

Fair play to C4 for documenting what every non leafy suburb arts degree holder knows - they're mad for doing crime

LuasSimon

How much of Ireland’s burgularies are committed by travellers ?
How much of rural Ireland’s cocaine trade is controlled by travellers ?

The government seem happy to allow towns and villages all over Ireland to be destroyed with their crime and intimidation . Rural Ireland is not a nice place to live anymore thanks to traveller crime .

sligojoek

Skyfloater wrote: »

Did you learn a single thing that you didn't already know?

Maybe it was intended for those who don't want to know.

Edgware

And the usual names turn up in the Enniskillen murder

freshpopcorn

Ryan Tubridy should Skype the makers of this documentary and get some travellers to join in on the chat. Similar to his interview with Peter Casey.
The could also get Jennifer Zamparelli Maguire to Tweet some random thing about the producers without any evidence of it happening.

deaddonkey15

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Ryan Tubridy should Skype the makers of this documentary and get some travellers to join in on the chat. Similar to his interview with Peter Casey.
The could also get Jennifer Zamparelli Maguire to Tweet some random thing about the producers without any evidence of it happening.

Could get Ciara Kelly too to discuss why she wouldn’t have any issue at all living beside travellers.

Stovepipe

It's like the bitter old joke about missionaries arriving in Africa to convert the natives; one expat asks another,how long does it take to make a missionary a racist?" "About three weeks". I'd say if you dumped all the Traveller-supporting luvvies into a halting site,it wouldn't take as long.

Kivaro

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Anyone watching on Channel 4 now? They'd never make a show like this on RTE.

I think RTE will do a show now though.
I bet you that the crack RTE Investigates Team are probably now planning to do a week-long exposé on this. No money (our money) will be spared on this matter.

You will have RTE sending a team of "investigators" over to investigate the Channel 4 show producers and reporters.
How dare they shine any negative light on our "distinct ethnic minority" misunderstood Travelers.
Channel 4; just a bunch of racists.

normanoffside

This could be fun tomorrow
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/armed-gardai-on-standby-as-up-to-70-members-of-traveller-family-expected-to-travel-from-uk-for-funeral-39136756.html

suicide_circus

normanoffside wrote: »

This could be fun tomorrow
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/armed-gardai-on-standby-as-up-to-70-members-of-traveller-family-expected-to-travel-from-uk-for-funeral-39136756.html

Now are 70 armed gardai on standby for that funeral due to chronic discrimination or due to chronic criminality in the travelling community?

KrustyUCC

normanoffside wrote: »

This could be fun tomorrow
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/armed-gardai-on-standby-as-up-to-70-members-of-traveller-family-expected-to-travel-from-uk-for-funeral-39136756.html

It should be simple enough

If numbers exceed those allowed the funeral doesn't go ahead

That won't happen though

LuasSimon

Massive traveller funeral in Birr Co Offaly yesterday , no restrictions for travellers same as every other law in this country

https://www.thejournal.ie/traveller-funerals-guidelines-covid-19-pavee-point-5077354-Apr2020/

Spanish Eyes

They just have to face the possibility of infecting themselves and those around them now.

Idiots. And I have no sympathy at all, when I look at non Travellers who seem to have no choice but to have a totally curtailed funeral, and observe the rules even if they are heartbroken.

sligojoek

normanoffside wrote: »

This could be fun tomorrow
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/armed-gardai-on-standby-as-up-to-70-members-of-traveller-family-expected-to-travel-from-uk-for-funeral-39136756.html

a highly respected member of the Traveller community

Highly respected by who?

suicide_circus wrote: »

Now are 70 armed gardai on standby for that funeral due to chronic discrimination or due to chronic criminality in the travelling community?

Gardaí who could be deployed usefully somewhere else if it wasn't for this.

KTBFFH

Ah I can smell it now, the last acceptable form of racism left in Ireland is rife here. Some stench

10fathoms

"A highly respected member of the Travelling community"
I'll be laughing til Tuesday at that opener.

10fathoms

KTBFFH wrote: »

Ah I can smell it now, the last acceptable form of racism left in Ireland is rife here. Some stench

Smells great!

Urquell

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

. And I have no sympathy at all, when I look at non Travellers who seem to have no choice but to have a totally curtailed funeral, and observe the rules even if they are heartbroken.

Yeah...what about this ? This needs answering. Irish times full of stories about people watching funerals though Zoom etc ... will they comment on this ?

Geuze

KTBFFH wrote: »

Ah I can smell it now, the last acceptable form of racism left in Ireland is rife here. Some stench

Racism implies saying something negative that is not the truth.

In this case, it isn't racism, as it isn't untruthful to say that crime is higher among travellers.

That is the simple truth.

People can dance around it as much as they like, ignore it, pretend it isn't there.

But the next week, month, year, there it is, staring you in the face, the truth.

It can't be excused away.

Geuze

Traveller women I have time for.

Traveller men, and the SJW who defend and justify their medieval ways, I have no time for.

Gunmonkey

suicide_circus wrote: »

Now are 70 armed gardai on standby for that funeral due to chronic discrimination or due to chronic criminality in the travelling community?

Obviously they are there to stop any of the settled community running in and dumping their rubbish in the halting sites while the travellers are at the funeral.

Lewis_Benson

10fathoms wrote: »

"A highly respected member of the Travelling community"
I'll be laughing til Tuesday at that opener.

He showed you the height of respect on the DVD he taped onto YouTube.

sligojoek

KTBFFH wrote: »

Ah I can smell it now, the last acceptable form of racism left in Ireland is rife here. Some stench

Against which race?

sasta le

How can one legally become a Traveller in Ireland?

Filmer Paradise

sasta le wrote: »

How can one legally become a Traveller in Ireland?

Be born a scumbag with a working micky.

No other parts of you will need to work.........ever!

sasta le

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

Be born a scumbag with a working micky.

No other parts of you will need to work.........ever!

Im serious they get special status its even in some forms etc for college

Oops!

sasta le wrote: »

How can one legally become a Traveller in Ireland?

Your parents must be related, you have more than one birth cert and have an ethnic surname....

Filmer Paradise

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sasta le wrote: »

Im serious they get special status its even in some forms etc for college

You mean further education?

Yeah once or twice it happened.

Apparently one of them did a Phd in discrimination or somesuch..

Now we have an educated whinger! Marvelous.:rolleyes:

No Doctors or Engineers with this crowd. No way Sir!

sasta le

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

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You mean further education?

Yeah once or twice it happened.

Apparently one of them did a Phd in discrimination or somesuch..

Now we have an educated whinger! Marvelous.:rolleyes:

No Doctors or Engineers with this crowd. No way Sir!

Oh Dr Sindy Joyce.i follow her on Twitter never once has she called out the wrongs or current affairs of her community....Oh and they are not travellers anymore they are Minceir...

Filmer Paradise

sasta le wrote: »

Oh Dr Sindy Joyce.i follow her on Twitter never once has she called out the wrongs or current affairs of her community....Oh and they are not travellers anymore they are Minceir...

Not a Medical Doctor on the front lines, saving peoples lives or anything like that.

Worthless. Like all of them.

jaxxx

Funny isn't it, I thought the whole point of law was so that everyone is treated in equal measure come naughty or nice. Well, that's no more than a fantasy now, if it was ever anything but.

Mad_maxx

KTBFFH wrote: »

Ah I can smell it now, the last acceptable form of racism left in Ireland is rife here. Some stench

You're more concerned with smelling your own smug self satisfaction

Mad_maxx

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

1

You mean further education?

Yeah once or twice it happened.

Apparently one of them did a Phd in discrimination or somesuch..

Now we have an educated whinger! Marvelous.:rolleyes:

No Doctors or Engineers with this crowd. No way Sir!

Sindy Joyce, PhD in grievance studies from UL

Fall_Guy

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

Be born a scumbag with a working micky.

No other parts of you will need to work.........ever!

So if you happened to be born with two traveler parents instead of your own parents you'd be the exact same? Kind of makes you a **** to have such bitterness against people who had no choice into meeting the criteria for membership then, no?

Shefwedfan

I’m no fan of the travellers but the amount of air time they get for the size of population

You have huge sections of Dublin and major cities which are just a big s**thole full of scumbags, running drugs, shooting people, robbing cars etc and not a word is mentioned

When one of them is shot you get thousands of messages about he/she was a lovely person and came from a lovely family

Maybe when discussing the traveller it might be worth discussing all the scumbags and how to resolve them all.....

um7y1h83ge06nx

No concept of people taking some responsibility for themselves.

If Travelers behave like this and disregard social distancing and this results in large outbreaks among their group then they have to take responsibility.

No hand wringing or complaining from Pavee Point, they are adults.

Fall_Guy

Kendrick Angry Dishcloth wrote: »

No concept of people taking some responsibility for themselves.

If Travelers behave like this and disregard social distancing and this results in large outbreaks among their group then they have to take responsibility.

No hand wringing or complaining from Pavee Point, they are adults.

They ARE adults. They WERE children. And a much higher proportion of them had a ****ty childhood than people in the settled population.

There is not a much higher number number of travelers in the prison population proportionally, or a much higher proportion of suicides among travelers because settled people are somehow better than them, as many here seem to believe. Nor do people "choose" to live lives filled with violence, anxiety, depression, shame, feelings of inferiority (despite people's assertions "but they're proud of it!" or "culture!")

It's comforting to tell yourself that you have been "successful" and are a good member of society because you have taken responsibility for your own life, but more often than not, it's down to things you had little control over (genetics, upbringing, positive relationships throughout your life, luck etc...)

I'd strongly urge any of the "they are all scumbags" brigade to take a few minutes and watch this video. Excuse the cheesy American production and watch it at face value. Things aren't as black and white when it comes to crime, and groups that see a higher prevalence of violence in them.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=8p4pvPd0SRQ