New York dead buried in mass graves.

This is unbelievably sad. A horrifying sight. May they Rest In Peace

“Images have emerged of coffins being buried in a mass grave in New York City, as the death toll from the coronavirus outbreak continues to rise.
Workers in hazmat outfits were seen using a ladder to descend into a huge pit where the coffins were stacked.
The location is Hart Island, used for New Yorkers with no next of kin or who could not afford a funeral.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52241221

greenfield21

Temporary burials

https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2020/04/06/new-york-city-prepares-for-temporary-burials-of-coronavirus-victims-1272398

Harry Palmr

You'd imagine there are a going to be a lot of John and Jane Doe deaths in the United States so massive is the homeless level there.

MadYaker

Harry Palmr wrote: »

You'd imagine there are a going to be a lot of John and Jane Doe deaths in the United States so massive is the homeless level there.

yeah but none of them will be tested so they won't be in the stats

It's horrible but what else can they do when the people have no next of kin and no money? Space in graveyeards is going to be at a premium.

Ten of Swords

Hart Island has always been a mass grave site, more than one million people have been buried there in the last 150 years

all about the mane

Ten of Swords wrote: »

Hart Island has always been a mass grave site, more than one million people have been buried there in the last 150 years

Yes, but it’s the increase in numbers that is alarming

splinter65

It’s very sad but the crematoriums wouldn’t have anything like the capacity to cope with this level of death.

Idbatterim

I am assuming they just have capacity to meet the average volume of deaths, because the extra 2500 in new york, out of a population of what? over ten million, doesnt seem that significant of a figure

Oafley Jones

Idbatterim wrote: »

I am assuming they just have capacity to meet the average volume of deaths, because the extra 2500 in new york, out of a population of what? over ten million, doesnt seem that significant of a figure

They've gone from round about 25 death per day at home to over 250 per day. Those deaths are separate from those recorded as Cornovirus in hospitals. Even if you exclude the large numbers from hospitals, that alone would be a huge shock and challenge to their resources.

jimgoose

Something similar was done during the AIDS epidemic in the 1980s, as well as the 'flu outbreak of 2008. Interestingly, it seems mass-graves for the unknown/poor/diseased like that are known as Potter's Fields, a term biblical in origin:

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-27-3_27-8/

JustAThought

We have the same in Dublin, and have operated similar for yeqrs. It is now branded ‘the Milennium Plot’ and provides the same daily function amd is much used - and appreciated by families.

Not everyone has 7k or 8k handy to bury a relative, and not everyone has living relatives left.

Shame on the FG government who took away the funeral grant of 1k for every family per bereavement, who allowed the city and county councils to repeatedly increase the cost of opening a grave to over a thousand euro, and who makes impovrished recently bereaved families beg for a funeral grant of up to 2k which will still leave them over 5k in debt.

People who have worked, paid taxes and paid their way in society should at least have earned a municipal plot and decent standard burial and not be beggared by an industry that ‘self regulates’ its pricing and a government that facilitates and enables them while continuing to tax them beyond the grave.

splinter65

JustAThought wrote: »

We have the same in Dublin, and have operated similar for yeqrs. It is now branded ‘the Milennium Plot’ and provides the same daily function amd is much used - and appreciated by families.

Not everyone has 7k or 8k handy to bury a relative, and not everyone has living relatives left.

Shame on the FG government who took away the funeral grant of 1k for every family per bereavement, who allowed the city and county councils to repeatedly increase the cost of opening a grave to over a thousand euro, and who makes impovrished recently bereaved families beg for a funeral grant of up to 2k which will still leave them over 5k in debt.

People who have worked, paid taxes and paid their way in society should at least have earned a municipal plot and decent standard burial and not be beggared by an industry that ‘self regulates’ its pricing and a government that facilitates and enables them while continuing to tax them beyond the grave.

The Bereavement Grant was €850 not €1000. It was only ever available to the surviving spouse of a deceased person who was in an insurable SW payment/job NOT any other bereaved adult relatives.
Bereaved families can apply to the CWO for an ENP to help with the funeral bill. It’s means tested. The family are expected to contribute what they can to their loved ones funeral. Is there any reason you think that the taxpayer should foot the bill?

tdf7187

splinter65 wrote: »

The Bereavement Grant was €850 not €1000. It was only ever available to the surviving spouse of a deceased person who was in an insurable SW payment/job NOT any other bereaved adult relatives.
Bereaved families can apply to the CWO for an ENP to help with the funeral bill. It’s means tested. The family are expected to contribute what they can to their loved ones funeral. Is there any reason you think that the taxpayer should foot the bill?

The Gaeler cooption of the Uncivil Service is one of the most depressing aspects of this so-called democratic republic.

plodder

Apparently, New York buries around 20 or so people every week in this place. Normally, the burial work is done by prisoners from Riker's island. The difference now is the numbers are up and contractors are doing the work.

But, it is desperately sad to think that families who believe relatives were living homeless in NYC, may have died and ended up in this pit. It's awful to contemplate.

tdf7187

JustAThought wrote: »

We have the same in Dublin, and have operated similar for yeqrs. It is now branded ‘the Milennium Plot’ and provides the same daily function amd is much used - and appreciated by families.

Not everyone has 7k or 8k handy to bury a relative, and not everyone has living relatives left.

Shame on the FG government who took away the funeral grant of 1k for every family per bereavement, who allowed the city and county councils to repeatedly increase the cost of opening a grave to over a thousand euro, and who makes impovrished recently bereaved families beg for a funeral grant of up to 2k which will still leave them over 5k in debt.

People who have worked, paid taxes and paid their way in society should at least have earned a municipal plot and decent standard burial and not be beggared by an industry that ‘self regulates’ its pricing and a government that facilitates and enables them while continuing to tax them beyond the grave.

Indeed except FG is not a democratically elected government. I'm not a fan of conspiracy theory but they absolutely love this crisis, it feeds into their authoritarian Blueshirt instincts. Zanu FG didnt cause the crisis but they are adroitly exploiting it.

JP Liz V1

Harry Palmr wrote: »

You'd imagine there are a going to be a lot of John and Jane Doe deaths in the United States so massive is the homeless level there.

RIP All

Insect Overlord

Thread's ruined with the usual brainless political bullshit. Could ye not keep the crap to comments on the Journal and YouTube?

/un-follows

JustAThought

JustAThought wrote: »

We have the same in Dublin, and have operated similar for yeqrs. It is now branded ‘the Milennium Plot’ and provides the same daily function amd is much used - and appreciated by families.

Not everyone has 7k or 8k handy to bury a relative, and not everyone has living relatives left.

Shame on the FG government who took away the funeral grant of 1k for every family per bereavement, who allowed the city and county councils to repeatedly increase the cost of opening a grave to over a thousand euro, and who makes impovrished recently bereaved families beg for a funeral grant of up to 2k which will still leave them over 5k in debt.

People who have worked, paid taxes and paid their way in society should at least have earned a municipal plot and decent standard burial and not be beggared by an industry that ‘self regulates’ its pricing and a government that facilitates and enables them while continuing to tax them beyond the grave.

Shame on you for using such sad situations to have a go at a political party.