New regulations signed by Simon Harris last night

Carawaystick

GM228 wrote: »

That's the ISB, not the Iris Oifigiúil, they are supposed to be "published" in the Iris Oifigiúil.

They were published in Friday's edition (number 29).

http://www.irisoifigiuil.ie/currentissues/Ir100420.pdf

ta, the version of the regs I saw previously posted, said "draft"

GM228

Juicee wrote: »

But I've seen nothing that could override articles 15 and 40 with regard to personal liberty.

This will be challenged in court I think.

People all too often mention the Constitution without giving consideration to this important point:-

4 1° No citizen shall be deprived of his personal liberty save in accordance with law.

If there is a law which allows for your detention etc which is in force at the time and used accordingly you can't use Article 40 4 1° to make a claim that the law is unconstitutional, you need to use something else in the Constitution.

Páid

This is at the bottom of S.I. 121 of 2020

The regulations come into effect on 8 April and will remain in operation until 12 April 2020.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2020/si/121/made/en/print

Does this mean that the travel exemptions are no longer allowed?

Páid

Páid wrote: »

This is at the bottom of S.I. 121 of 2020


http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2020/si/121/made/en/print

Does this mean that the travel exemptions are no longer allowed?

Just to answer my own question - the S.I. above was amended to 5th May 2020.

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/e9d120-minister-for-health-simon-harris-signs-regulations-to-give-an-garda-/

GM228

Páid wrote: »

This is at the bottom of S.I. 121 of 2020


http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2020/si/121/made/en/print

Does this mean that the travel exemptions are no longer allowed?

Páid wrote: »

Just to answer my own question - the S.I. above was amended to 5th May 2020.

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/e9d120-minister-for-health-simon-harris-signs-regulations-to-give-an-garda-/

The Regulations as they stand no longer apply until another Ministerial regulation is signed either amending the first set or otherwise extending their applicability, and like the first ones will need to be published in the Iris Oifigiúil.

No such regulation appears to have been signed as yet.

cobhguy28

GM228 wrote: »

The Regulations as they stand no longer apply until another Ministerial regulation is signed either amending the first set or otherwise extending their applicability, and like the first ones will need to be published in the Iris Oifigiúil.

No such regulation appears to have been signed as yet.

They have been signed, just not published yet.
https://assets.gov.ie/72788/fe7a0c66cb9244a1b86162257d98cac3.pdf

Páid

Got your wish - Gemma O'Doherty and John Waters launch High Court proceedings claiming Covid-19 laws are unconstitutional https://jrnl.ie/5075234

GM228

Páid wrote: »

Got your wish - Gemma O'Doherty and John Waters launch High Court proceedings claiming Covid-19 laws are unconstitutional https://jrnl.ie/5075234

Representing yourself in court can be difficult at the best of times, but representing yourself in a JR is just madness and highly likely doomed to fail.

cobhguy28

GM228 wrote: »

Representing yourself in court can be difficult at the best of times, but representing yourself in a JR is just madness and highly likely doomed to fail.

Ya I agree, in a way, I am glad, they are representing themselves as these laws are morally right, but they are pushing the limits of the constitution, especially delegation of power to the minister and if they had a good legal team, they might of had a chance of winning.

BaronVon

Is there any cost to bringing a JR when representing yourself? i.e. fees to lodge documents etc?

Peregrinus

BaronVon wrote: »

Is there any cost to bringing a JR when representing yourself? i.e. fees to lodge documents etc?

Yes, there are court fees payable. But they are modest compared to the cost of engaging legal representation.

ezra_

BaronVon wrote: »

Is there any cost to bringing a JR when representing yourself? i.e. fees to lodge documents etc?

If they fail in their action, can the State have their legal fees awarded against Gemma and John?

Peregrinus

ezra_ wrote: »

If they fail in their action, can the State have their legal fees awarded against Gemma and John?

Yes.

ezra_

This isn't anyway at all off putting...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1250580858093875201

Caranica

Please don't give them clicks or oxygen, this is precisely what they want!!