Blood bank nurses and Civil Defense wearing no PPS

Handyman1

Heard on the TV that someone online told people that if they wanted to be checked for the Covid19 They should go give blood and they will be told :eek:

Now what you got is folk that feel ill lining up at blood banks thinking they will be told they have it or not.. it dont work like that,

A member of my family was with the civil defense at a mobile blood bank, the job was to ask people if they had any of the symptoms of the virus,
One idiot tried to get near enough to whisper that he had a bit of a sore throat, I was shocked to hear that none of the civil defense or the nurses taking the blood were wearing any sort of protection,

As you's can imagine the nurses had to break the 2 meter guide line when finding a vain.
The C/D were told by the nurses to tell people to take off any masks because this was a sterile area and no people with symptoms should be there,

The problem is some folk wont even know that they are carrying the virus an unknowingly spreading it to everyone in the blood bank,

Am I the only one that thinks this shouldn't be happening, is there anyone in control of situations like this that I could talk to in order to get this stopped.

TheRepentent

Handyman1 wrote: »

is there anyone in control of situations like this that I could talk to in order to get this stopped.

You can ring Leo on 081 678 23 45..if he doesn't pick up send him a whatsApp...he doesn't check his voicemail

Fr_Dougal

Some people are idiots. You’re correct, donors will not be screened for this virus. Platelet donors may have lower white cell counts but that will be it. The staff at these blood banks should be wearing PPE, I find it very hard to believe that they weren’t.

Handyman1

Hi T/R

Thanks for the reply, A little late to ring now but will do in the morn, mind me asking who Leo is.

TheRepentent

Handyman1 wrote: »

Hi T/R

Thanks for the reply, A little late to ring now but will do in the morn, mind me asking who Leo is.

Leo V with a capital V..yes that Leo

CIARAN_BOYLE

Handyman1 wrote: »

Hi T/R

Thanks for the reply, A little late to ring now but will do in the morn, mind me asking who Leo is.

He made up the number.

Handyman1

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Some people are idiots. You’re correct, donors will not be screened for this virus. Platelet donors may have lower white cell counts but that will be it. The staff at these blood banks should be wearing PPE, I find it very hard to believe that they weren’t.

Trust me Dougal I have better things to be doing than making things up, But I can understand you finding it hard to believe, tomorrow if i can i will find out where they are an get pictures,

I was stunned to hear they had asked folk to take they're masks off, I wish it wasn't true myself,

Thanks for your input

tabby aspreme

You can't just rock up to a donation clinic at the moment, you are sent an invite by the IBTS, you ring for an appointment, and are given a time to attend. You are not tested for Covid19 when you are there, I would think if anyone went to a clinic and said they had symptoms, they would be arrested.

riffmongous

Handyman1 wrote: »

Heard on the TV that someone online told people that if they wanted to be checked for the Covid19 They should go give blood and they will be told :eek:

Now what you got is folk that feel ill lining up at blood banks thinking they will be told they have it or not.. it dont work like that,

A member of my family was with the civil defense at a mobile blood bank, the job was to ask people if they had any of the symptoms of the virus,
One idiot tried to get near enough to whisper that he had a bit of a sore throat, I was shocked to hear that none of the civil defense or the nurses taking the blood were wearing any sort of protection,

As you's can imagine the nurses had to break the 2 meter guide line when finding a vain.
The C/D were told by the nurses to tell people to take off any masks because this was a sterile area and no people with symptoms should be there,

The problem is some folk wont even know that they are carrying the virus an unknowingly spreading it to everyone in the blood bank,

Am I the only one that thinks this shouldn't be happening, is there anyone in control of situations like this that I could talk to in order to get this stopped.

I gave blood 2 weeks ago where I live (foreign, Red Cross) and same situation, no masks. Everyone was prescreened with an infrared thermometer and questions, but that was it. At the time I guess the idea was that even if the distancing rule is broken that it's for too short a time period to pass it on, seemed odd to em though. Not sure what the current status is.

Handyman1

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

He made up the number.

Thank you Ciaran :cool:

CIARAN_BOYLE

By the way for anyone who doubts the op please review the ibts Facebook page where there is video from a news report on precautions being taken shown yesterday.

No staff visible wearing ppe.

bizidea

Yap gave blood last week they had controls in place only allowing 8 to 10 people in at a time hand sanitizer etc. you had to have an appointment or put your name on a list and they ring you when there was availability.they had d usual gloves but no masks.I asked the nurse she didnt seemed too concerned and said if you had the slightest sniffle you shouldn't be in the clinic donating blood anyway as its dangerous for recipient if you have any sort of infection

tabby aspreme

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

By the way for anyone who doubts the op please review the ibts Facebook page where there is video from a news report on precautions being taken shown yesterday.

No staff visible wearing ppe.

Gave blood earlier this week, the clinic staff wore gloves the same as usual, what else practically can they do, they are dealing with people who are healthy, have not been in contact with people who have the virus and haven't been abroad in the last two weeks.

wheresthebeef

The HSE advice remains that there is no need for any of their staff to wear PPE unless they are within 1 metre of a suspected (symptomatic) or confirmed case. This is still the party line.

Handyman1

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Gave blood earlier this week, the clinic staff wore gloves the same as usual, what else practically can they do, they are dealing with people who are healthy, have not been in contact with people who have the virus and haven't been abroad in the last two weeks.

Hi Tabby

Yep, the other thing they asked on the day was if they had worked in a healthcare setting, And yes I just found out that they did have appointments made prior to the visit,

My sister was visiting a friend in hospital today, her friend was sitting up in bed wearing a mask and gloves.. the head nurse came an said

"take off that mask an gloves, who told you to wear them, they carry more germs than anything, an don't wear them going shopping either you'll be worse off, just wash your hands.. "

Now folks I wouldn't believe that nurses radio, A fella called Boris thought along the same lines as her an look where he is now, I know wearing the same mask over an over is not the best thing to do But to tell people not to wear gloves is off it.

Today I wore a full face snorkeling mask with a little home made filter an nobody battered an eye.

Handyman1

wheresthebeef wrote: »

The HSE advice remains that there is no need for any of their staff to wear PPE unless they are within 1 metre of a suspected (symptomatic) or confirmed case. This is still the party line.

Hi W/T/B

Tests have been done to show droplets from a cough can travel over 3 meters, A sneeze can send droplets over 6 meters,

So really I would say its safer to wear the mask than not,

tabby aspreme

Handyman1 wrote: »

Hi Tabby

Yep, the other thing they asked on the day was if they had worked in a healthcare setting, And yes I just found out that they did have appointments made prior to the visit,

My sister was visiting a friend in hospital today, her friend was sitting up in bed wearing a mask and gloves.. the head nurse came an said

"take off that mask an gloves, who told you to wear them, they carry more germs than anything, an don't wear them going shopping either you'll be worse off, just wash your hands.. "

Now folks I wouldn't believe that nurses radio, A fella called Boris thought along the same lines as her an look where he is now, I know wearing the same mask over an over is not the best thing to do But to tell people not to wear gloves is off it.

Today I wore a full face snorkeling mask with a little home made filter an nobody battered an eye.

Are you sure it was your sister, or did you hear on TV, that someone online told someone, I thought there was no visiting allowed in hospital's at the moment.

Handyman1

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Are you sure it was your sister, or did you hear on TV, that someone online told someone, I thought there was no visiting allowed in hospital's at the moment.

Sorry about delay getting back to you, I had to ring my sister to find out the answer,
it was an outpatient appointment that my sister took her sister in law out to, they had to wait in the car until they were called, her sister in law has been getting the chemotherapy an needs assistance, they were walked to a cubicle an she was on the bed when the above was said,
I kinda picked it up wrong But I'm pleased u pointed this out :cool:

wheresthebeef

Handyman1 wrote: »

Hi W/T/B

Tests have been done to show droplets from a cough can travel over 3 meters, A sneeze can send droplets over 6 meters,

So really I would say its safer to wear the mask than not,

Hi Handyman. I'm not saying I agree with them. I firmly believe we wont properly flatten the curve until we are all wearing masks to contain our respiratory droplets. My mask protects you from me, and your masks protects me from you etc... combined with general environmental hygiene and hand washing. I think we will learn the hard way that this is what was required. The HSE continue to implement their policy anyway.

Handyman1

wheresthebeef wrote: »

Hi Handyman. I'm not saying I agree with them. I firmly believe we wont properly flatten the curve until we are all wearing masks to contain our respiratory droplets. My mask protects you from me, and your masks protects me from you etc... combined with general environmental hygiene and hand washing. I think we will learn the hard way that this is what was required. The HSE continue to implement their policy anyway.

I be thinking along the same lines as you on this, You can guarantee my mask will be on whenever shopping due to having COPD, in my case its mild but bad enough to say the virus would do its worst in my case,
This is probably why seeing folk without something over the face to catch the droplets kinda worries me more than it would others.

wonski

Where did you hear it on TV?

If it was on TV there must be a link or some catch up service, no?

Dont tell me it was YouTube TV, please...

Handyman1

wonski wrote: »

Where did you hear it on TV?

If it was on TV there must be a link or some catch up service, no?

Dont tell me it was YouTube TV, please...

Hi Wonski

Where did I hear what dude, I think its all explained in past posts, if there is something in particular that you need to know just ask,

wheresthebeef

Handyman1 wrote: »

I be thinking along the same lines as you on this, You can guarantee my mask will be on whenever shopping due to having COPD, in my case its mild but bad enough to say the virus would do its worst in my case,
This is probably why seeing folk without something over the face to catch the droplets kinda worries me more than it would others.

You're right. In your case, it's actually you that needs protecting from others. A surgical mask will provide you with 'a level' of protection, but others wearing masks would nearly be more important. I hope you are limiting your shopping trips as much as possible and going during quieter hours. Because I work with vulnerable people I'm only going once a week at 9pm on Saturday which seems to be quietest hour. Sometimes I cant get everything I 'want' but I can find what i 'need'. Its my only outing in the week, to try to reduce the risk of me carrying anything into work.

Handyman1

wheresthebeef wrote: »

You're right. In your case, it's actually you that needs protecting from others. A surgical mask will provide you with 'a level' of protection, but others wearing masks would nearly be more important. I hope you are limiting your shopping trips as much as possible and going during quieter hours. Because I work with vulnerable people I'm only going once a week at 9pm on Saturday which seems to be quietest hour. Sometimes I cant get everything I 'want' but I can find what i 'need'. Its my only outing in the week, to try to reduce the risk of me carrying anything into work.

Fair play to you for doing your bit :cool:
Thanks for your concern, I really only need to pop out for milk and fresh fruit right now,
over the space of a few weeks my shopping consisted an extra couple of chickens here an there,extra frozen veg and red meat, dried food stuffs, the list goes on But what it boiled down to is all the extra items will keep me going should I have to self isolate for a couple weeks, Last thing anyone wants to hear is one of my family or friends caught the virus while out helping me or anyone else So I go get it myself,

I feel that some people here don't realize the seriousness of the situation we are about to enter,

Anyway's good luck to you in your efforts to help others in need, Take care.