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Unwelcome Lodger

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    #32
    cintec
    Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭cintec


    Don't forget to change the locks and if he has your work email pre warn your manager of the situation in case he contacts them to be petty.


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    #33
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rasher1234 wrote: »
    Many thanks for your input everyone....it has been of great support personally.

    The lodger has now sent me an e mail on my work account & not my personal e mail, saying that he is a tenant and has rights and I’m an alcoholic / drug abuser drink and that I'm harassing him by asking him to leave! FFS !

    Crime victim’s helpline advise that is just not on and to get to the police immediately.

    Flac have advised that he has crossed all boundaries for lodger / tenant by connecting with me at work (as e mail are the property of the company), and such statements are flagrantly abusive and harassing and more so as he has chosen to involve my work.

    Apparently, they have seen this all before and would appear he is attempting escalating matters to provoke me to doing something illegal. He now has zero rights and has now forfeited the courtesy of me giving reasonable notice.

    I have additionally returned the current HAP payment for April back to HAP this morning.

    Im off to the police this afternoon !

    Wish me luck!
    Domestic violence is not just physical it’s also psychological - if you are in fear for your safety ( and by the sounds of it you might be) - a legitimate complaint to guards ( only if this is true I must emphasise) could be the way to go.


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    #34
    TheBoyConor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    As they say, give a man enough rope and he will hang himself. Which this clown has just done. To paraphrase Tony Montana, he's just fúcked himself.

    I wonder will he be as gung ho and combative when he finds all his crap on the driveway and the locks changed. Lay low inside for a couple of days just in case he tries any bullshít like breaking in. If he does, you can defend yourself if the need for it arises. And call the Gardaí immediately.


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    #35
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Hey op, he's just some ars*hole who can't understand he has to move on :p
    So many people in this world love to pull garbage out of their backside and say "I have rights" blah blah. Rather than accepting the actual situation and moving on. I used to work in retail and the amount of Shi*e people would say because they didn't get their way! Unreal stuff.

    Look .... The second you wanted him gone should have been the second he was gone. You don't owe him anything. He does not owe you anything too.

    If you are not the physical confrontational type that's ok. Then call the guards.


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    #36
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    B.A._Baracus wrote: »

    If you are not the physical confrontational type that's ok. Then call the guards.

    Or the A Team :P


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    #37
    Rasher1234
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Rasher1234


    Bizarre !....

    Been to the police an the they seem unwilling to get involved ....prob 'cos they don't wish to be seen to be facilitating a lodger being thrown out. ...which is understandable given today's challenges.... however , they did come down to witness me serve a 1 week notice , based on the lodgers irrational conduct and unreasonable behavior which I stated I found intimidating.... think it will only get worse before it gets better ! But at least , I have served notice , witnessed by guards and that the first step ! Hes under the total belief that he has rights to stay ....but i ask you , why would anyone want to stay in a place where he is unwelcome.... ??? Bizarre.

    Watch this space !

    if anyone could advise as to how my thinking is faulted , It would be most appreciated ...all my inquiries have confirmed my rational to be correct...have I missed anything?


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    #38
    endacl
    Registered Users Posts: 22,233 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    WhiteMemento9 wrote: »
    Is he not covered under the new evictions laws?

    No.


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    #39
    endacl
    Registered Users Posts: 22,233 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Rasher1234 wrote: »
    if anyone could advise as to how my thinking is faulted ,

    It's not. Fcuk him out as soon as you finish reading this post if you like.


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    #40
    housetypeb
    Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    You should have ****ed him and his mistaken assumptions out the door while the gardai were there.
    He's an unwelcome guest in your home,you just don't have to put up with it.


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    #41
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    WhiteMemento9 wrote: »
    Is he not covered under the new evictions laws?

    No


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    #42
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    OP you will have to live with this lodger for another week. Not to worry you but if they are unstable are you not concerned they might try to get revenge on you in some way.

    Can't believe you didn't get them to leave immediately!


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    #43
    Sheep Shagger
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,232 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    You are being too nice and you won't be rewarded for it.

    I would have ****ed him out while the gards were there witness it, just say you changed your mind if they give out.

    So you have returned the HAP money but he gets to stay a bit longer?

    Find an emergency locksmith who is working during this lockdown and change the locks while he is out. Leave his stuff outside - job done.


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    #44
    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    endacl wrote: »
    It's not. Fcuk him out as soon as you finish reading this post if you like.

    Just remember, you're only hearing one side of the story here..............

    Looks like lynch mob rules apply here.


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    #45
    Ballso
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    BarryD2 wrote: »
    Just remember, you're only hearing one side of the story here..............

    Looks like lynch mob rules apply here.

    Some vicious stuff on here lately alright. You'd swear it was mandatory to rent out rooms in your house to strangers for profit the way they go on.


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    #46
    893bet
    Registered Users Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭893bet


    BarryD2 wrote: »
    Just remember, you're only hearing one side of the story here..............

    Looks like lynch mob rules apply here.

    No it’s the my house, my rules mob.


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    #47
    melekalikimaka
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    Sheep Shagger wrote: »

    Find an emergency locksmith who is working during this lockdown and change the locks while he is out. Leave his stuff outside - job done.

    Ive not left my house in over a week, tough time to try do it, but 100% needs to be done.


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    #48
    TheBoyConor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    Well you've unfortunately given him a week so you'll have to stick to that.
    But when that week is up, if he gives any lip I'd catch him up by the neck and send him head first out through the nearest window.

    Prick of a lodger, he has no rights and doesn't deserve any. It's your house.


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    #49
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,418 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Rasher1234 wrote: »
    Bizarre !....

    Been to the police an the they seem unwilling to get involved ....prob 'cos they don't wish to be seen to be facilitating a lodger being thrown out. ...which is understandable given today's challenges.... however , they did come down to witness me serve a 1 week notice , based on the lodgers irrational conduct and unreasonable behavior which I stated I found intimidating.... think it will only get worse before it gets better !
    I'd guess they are unwilling to get involved because this is a civil matter between you and your lodger. The Gardai are there to enforce criminal law, not to help you to sort out commercial disputes.

    If your lodger has broken the law, report that breach to the Gardai. Otherwise, it's not really their issue.
    Rasher1234 wrote: »
    but i ask you , why would anyone want to stay in a place where he is unwelcome.... ??? Bizarre.
    Possibly because he has nowhere else to live.


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    #50
    TheBoyConor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    That is the risk one takes when they are a lodger. If he want's security, then he must get his act in order and buy a property of his own. It is his issue, not the responsibility of another homeowner.


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    #51
    Ballso
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    TheBoyConor wrote: »
    That is the risk one takes when they are a lodger. If he want's security, then he must get his act in order and buy a property of his own. It is his issue, not the responsibility of another homeowner.

    Spoken like someone from the 1700s.

    What kind of oddball buys a property then immediately gives up their privacy for profit to allow some random stranger to move in. Oddballs.


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    #52
    Telly
    Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Telly


    What did he say when the cops were there?


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    #53
    housetypeb
    Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    Ballso wrote: »
    Spoken like someone from the 1700s.

    What kind of oddball buys a property then immediately gives up their privacy for profit to allow some random stranger to move in. Oddballs.

    A man's home is his castle, in other words he can do whatever the **** he want to with it.


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    #54
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 31,857 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Wow what a horrible situation. You have had lots of good advice already so hope it works out for you


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    #55
    Ballso
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    housetypeb wrote: »
    A man's home is his castle, in other words he can do whatever the **** he want to with it.

    "My home is my castle" and "I'll rent out rooms in my house to strangers for money" seem like opposite approaches to me.

    Why would you buy a property only to give up your privacy and security by sharing it with strangers? It's weird.


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    #56
    housetypeb
    Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    Ballso wrote: »
    "My home is my castle" and "I'll rent out rooms in my house to strangers for money" seem like opposite approaches to me.

    Why would you buy a property only to give up your privacy and security by sharing it with strangers? It's weird.

    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
    Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.


    His house,his choice,his rules.


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    #57
    Rasher1234
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Rasher1234


    Unfortunately due to broken relationships, inability to pay off mortgage ( now in vulture territory) and one singleincome and a desire to keep the roof over my head .... this oddball made a deal with the devil not to give into the vultures approach of ' give up , get out and go away' ..... yes a man's home maybe his castle ....but not always the ground its situated on !


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    #58
    Ballso
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    housetypeb wrote: »
    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
    Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.


    His house,his choice,his rules.

    Sure, still a bit sad though. Let's not pretend these folks are the adults in the room just because they own property. Most of them would seriously struggle if it wasn't for exploiting a housing crisis to rent rooms to the most vulnerable. Nobody in their right mind would live with an owner occupier if they had a choice.


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    #59
    MissShihTzu
    Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭MissShihTzu


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Possibly because he has nowhere else to live.


    Ah, poor soul. If the lodger has nowhere else to live, then he should behave himself, and not act like a pr1ck!! Then all would be cool...


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    #60
    Rasher1234
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Rasher1234


    Ahh ha ...thinges get curiouser and curiouser ...the lodger has now intimated that for a fee he would be wiling to leave ..... this makes me all the more determined to Fcuk him out in a few days as how ****ing dare he try to monetize a situation like this, in a time of crisis for all of us all ...its no wonder he was being so vehement about staying ....he could use the situation to his benefit ...


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    #61
    housetypeb
    Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    Rasher1234 wrote: »
    Ahh ha ...thinges get curiouser and curiouser ...the lodger has now intimated that for a fee he would be wiling to leave ..... this makes me all the more determined to Fcuk him out in a few days as how ****ing dare he try to monetize a situation like this, in a time of crisis for all of us all ...its no wonder he was being so vehement about staying ....he could use the situation to his benefit ...

    For **** sake, go down to the Gardai station and tell them that you are evicting an unwelcome guest from your home,that refuses to leave, and you expect there to be trouble and you need them present as a precaution.
    This guy is walking all over you, he has no rights.


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