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Dirtbike trail use legality’s

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    #62
    Hotblack Desiato
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    So your recommendation for off-road riding is.. roads. OK.

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    #63
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    galwaytt wrote: »
    First off, as taxpayers, motorcyclists are entitled to no less consideration or accommodating than any MTB user, including on State lands. If MTB-ers can use them, so can motorcyclists.

    What nonsense is this?


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    #64
    Hotblack Desiato
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    It's saying that if Coillte are open to allowing their trails to be used by mountain bike cyclists, they should be open to allowing them to be used by trail bike motorcyclists

    But your prejudice is noted.

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    #65
    iwillhtfu
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    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    It's saying that if Coillte are open to allowing their trails to be used by mountain bike cyclists, they should be open to allowing them to be used by trail bike motorcyclists

    But your prejudice is noted.

    I don't think coillte are open to allowing mtbs use their land other than at designated trail centres although it does go on in almost every forest and they turn a blind eye. Other than both being preferably used off road there's no real comparison between a mtb and a mx bike or at least one is certainly a lot less annoying to the non user than the other which is annoying as fook to all but the user.

    It would be great if the government started to invest in the outdoors more here and try to reclaim some of the land and forests to reuse for specific sports such as they have done with the mtb trail centres.

    To the original poster up and around Nephin is pretty remote but you'll probably come across walkers almost everywhere and you'll be constantly crossing barriers and coming across fences.


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    #66
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    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    It's saying that if Coillte are open to allowing their trails to be used by mountain bike cyclists, they should be open to allowing them to be used by trail bike motorcyclists

    But your prejudice is noted.

    It's nonsense. "As taxpayers" for one. Then there's the idea that one equals the other because well, they both have 2 wheels.

    Sure why not go the next stage, if they allow dirt bikes, then buggy's, if buggy's why not 4x4s?


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    #67
    doctorchopper
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    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    It's nonsense. "As taxpayers" for one. Then there's the idea that one equals the other because well, they both have 2 wheels.

    Sure why not go the next stage, if they allow dirt bikes, then buggy's, if buggy's why not 4x4s?

    They do let 4x4's go offroad, Leinster offroad club have the use of approx 4000 acres in Wexford/Wicklow area. If coillte can give them permission, we not off road motorcycles.


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    #68
    galwaytt
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    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    It's nonsense. "As taxpayers" for one. Then there's the idea that one equals the other because well, they both have 2 wheels.

    Sure why not go the next stage, if they allow dirt bikes, then buggy's, if buggy's why not 4x4s?

    Seeing as 'taxpayers' fund everything, then it's entirely relevant.

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    #69
    iwillhtfu
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    doctorchopper wrote: »
    They do let 4x4's go offroad, Leinster offroad club have the use of approx 4000 acres in Wexford/Wicklow area. If coillte can give them permission, we not off road motorcycles.

    I believe there's a license agreement there and it's only for day/multi day use for events it's not an ongoing arrangement. I'm open to correction but they also have to provide some form of insurance.


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    #70
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    doctorchopper wrote: »
    They do let 4x4's go offroad, Leinster offroad club have the use of approx 4000 acres in Wexford/Wicklow area. If coillte can give them permission, we not off road motorcycles.

    In an agreed place, not the bloody Wicklow way! As I'm sure you know well was the point considering the person I replied to wants open access to all coilte lands.
    galwaytt wrote: »
    Seeing as 'taxpayers' fund everything, then it's entirely relevant.

    It's a nonsense. Your tax doesn't cover everything that tax pays for nor is it the reasoning behind access being denied. I like camping but that doesn't mean I can just meander into every single area that hikers can.


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    #71
    Hotblack Desiato
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    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    the person I replied to wants open access to all coilte lands.

    But that's not what they said. You are resorting to creating a strawman to attack.
    Your tax doesn't cover everything that tax pays for

    Utter nonsense. There are plenty of things I'd rather my taxes didn't pay for, but it all comes out of the same pot.

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    #72
    CJhaughey
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    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    As I side note is there anywhere near Bray area within a reasonable drive that I can take my CBX off road?

    There is offroad and there is gravel roads? I assume you mean the latter.
    I wouldn't fancy taking a CBX through mud and slime, it would be a lot of weight to handle even with serious knobbies.


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    #73
    Matthew.S
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    Where the f*ck can I ride a dirt bike in Ireland and dong say my own land because I have very little and don’t say tracks intended for dirt bikes because they are motor cross tracks! I want to trail ride! Like srsly where can I ride my dirt bike if I don’t want to motor cross? I live in Roscommon can anybody recommend a place to ride near me?


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    #74
    H_Lime
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    I pay my taxes why can't I have this:pac::pac:!!


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    #75
    iwillhtfu
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    Matthew.S wrote: »
    Where the f*ck can I ride a dirt bike in Ireland and dong say my own land because I have very little and don’t say tracks intended for dirt bikes because they are motor cross tracks! I want to trail ride! Like srsly where can I ride my dirt bike if I don’t want to motor cross? I live in Roscommon can anybody recommend a place to ride near me?

    There's no public investment in land/trails designed for motorbikes so officially there is no where public you can do what you have in mind. It would require significant investment to purchase lands and then develop these lands for specific use as has been done with the mtb trail centres and they've been pushing for that for years.

    you could google disused quarries in your area and you might get your fix there but they're typically full of MX bikes as opposed to the trail type bumbling you probably have in mind.

    If it's road legal you could always look at the TET and some of the UK bridleways. There my be some in the north.


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    #76
    chrabo
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    I try to get some land or permission from meath council. No way they will do it, for them all dirtbikes riders are idiots. You cant rent an land as well, as there is no way to get insurance, and even with it, landlord will not be fully covered. You need to find few places, old bogs, quarry or anything will do for You. Watch if there is any dog walkers etc. I have spot like this, it is for weekends where is no trackdays, so i can go with my kid and do some practice or just for fun. Other option is, go to north, and have tracks and stuff all day long, seems there is no hassle.


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