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Too much thought of GAA Players

  • 06-03-2020 3:36pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21


    I think their is way too much thought of GAA players.


    Why is a GAA player who plays well often publicly referred to as a hero? (tv / radio / papers etc)

    Why is a retired GAA player often publicly referred to as a legend?

    Dont get me wrong - I think the GAA is great.

    Great for getting a community together - for those interested in GAA.

    Great for kids, who are interested in GAA.

    I played myself when I was young, and was very good at it. Enjoyed it immensely.

    But, had to move away to better myself, no jobs at home, went to collage etc.


    Some people could manage to keep playing - worked for their parents maybe, or very lucky to find work near home. Great for them, No problems with that.

    But , why are these people now often referred to as legends? Many still living with, or very close to mammy and daddy, working on parents business usually.

    Why are they called hero's for playing well.

    What about the kids who are good at say, art, or drama, or like reading? No one is publicly calling them "heros", and rightly so. Its not fair on them to be making so much of those who are into GAA.


    What about the young person who's made a life for themselves elsewhere, got themselves well educated, good job - no one is publicly calling them "Legends", and rightly so. Standing on there own 2 feet, and not easy getting there .

    GAA - its a game, with a ball, running around a field . . . all very good - but no need for it to be taking over, and so much in our face!!! There's other things out there, other interests.


    :confused::confused::rolleyes::P
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭correction


    It sounds like there's something personal here and you are very bitter about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 mammyod


    correction wrote: »
    It sounds like there's something personal here and you are very bitter about it.
    I knew someone here would reply saying that!

    nope - not bitter at all . its just a very clear observation.

    Anyone living in rural Ireland will understand what im talking about.

    Iv no reason to be bitter - but definitely way too much made of these "Hero's and Legends" . Its just a fact! Watching my 3 boys growing up, now in there teens, not interested in GAA (but interested in other sports), and having to put up with and watch this carry on every weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    mammyod wrote: »
    I knew someone here would reply saying that!

    nope - not bitter at all . its just a very clear observation.

    Anyone living in rural Ireland will understand what im talking about.

    Iv no reason to be bitter - but definitely way too much made of these "Hero's and Legends" . Its just a fact! Watching my 3 boys growing up, now in there teens, not interested in GAA (but interested in other sports), and having to put up with and watch this carry on every weekend.


    You or your lads don't have to put up with or look at anything. If it's on TV, just move to a different channel. What sports are they into?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 mammyod


    ArielAtom wrote: »
    You or your lads don't have to put up with or look at anything. If it's on TV, just move to a different channel. What sports are they into?


    Im not against the GAA at all, nor are any of my boys. We all watch the matches, both on the tv and go to local games. its great, and like watching GAA .

    But . . . .what my post is saying - why are the players referred to as heros and legends. Its just a sport. no one using these terms in other sports!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    mammyod wrote: »
    Im not against the GAA at all, nor are any of my boys. We all watch the matches, both on the tv and go to local games. its great, and like watching GAA .

    But . . . .what my post is saying - why are the players referred to as heros and legends. Its just a sport. no one using these terms in other sports!


    OK, So really you've little to be worrying about. You have stated that your boys are involved in other sports, how do you fit the time with three teenagers to go all the local games and fit in thier sports, some man for one man I say.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭jackwigan


    mammyod wrote: »
    Im not against the GAA at all, nor are any of my boys. We all watch the matches, both on the tv and go to local games. its great, and like watching GAA .

    But . . . .what my post is saying - why are the players referred to as heros and legends. Its just a sport. no one using these terms in other sports!

    But mammyod...this...this just isn't true. So very untrue. Straight up false. Wrong. Incorrect. You do know that right? Right!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 mammyod


    ArielAtom wrote: »
    OK, So really you've little to be worrying about. You have stated that your boys are involved in other sports, how do you fit the time with three teenagers to go all the local games and fit in thier sports, some man for one man I say.

    never said we go to all the matches - i said we all go to matches. local pitch across the road from us!

    not worried about it at all ArielAtom, just stating a point!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Vangoghslow


    Yes, all the players I've ever played with were so lucky to live with Mammy and Daddy and work in the family business around the corner from the GAA field.

    It's sad really that they couldn't better themselves by going off to college and standing on their own two feet.

    I have even heard of some men and women who are so committed to their clubs and county that they travel long distances from work and college just to go training....haha...if anything I'd call them losers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Gaeilge amateur players well deserve their hero' and Legend status as far as I'm concerned.

    These are fellas that put their lives on hold for the love of their club and county teams. Playing for your county is a huge commitment and it's a pet hate of mine when I see people criticising players for taking a year out.

    In comparison across the water in the EPL many players are millionaires by the time they reach 20 and they express their love for their team by kissing their teams badges when they score, yet many of the same fellas show little loyalty as money is king in that sport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    OP could have been county.

    :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 mammyod


    Gaeilge amateur players well deserve their hero' and Legend status as far as I'm concerned..

    Dont agree. Great players / sportsperson , yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    mammyod wrote: »
    Dont agree. Great players / sportsperson , yes

    You don't have to agree I have my opinion on GAA players and nothing will change it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 mammyod


    You don't have to agree I have my opinion on GAA players and nothing will change it.

    ya thats fine - im just telling you i dont agree!


  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hope no All Stars feelings hurt in this thread! ;-D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    Gaeilge amateur players well deserve their hero' and Legend status as far as I'm concerned.

    These are fellas that put their lives on hold for the love of their club and county teams. Playing for your county is a huge commitment and it's a pet hate of mine when I see people criticising players for taking a year out.

    In comparison across the water in the EPL many players are millionaires by the time they reach 20 and they express their love for their team by kissing their teams badges when they score, yet many of the same fellas show little loyalty as money is king in that sport.


    Why the comparison with the EPL ?
    Why not compare with local boxing, athletics, rugby etc. ? Does it always have to come down to soccer comparisons, where, BTW, not a whole lot of fellas are millionaires by 20 in the whole scheme of things. American football, basketball and baseball would have a lot more young millionaires.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    mammyod wrote: »
    I think their is way too much thought of GAA players.

    Why is a GAA player who plays well often publicly referred to as a hero? (tv / radio / papers etc)

    Why is a retired GAA player often publicly referred to as a legend?

    Dont get me wrong - I think the GAA is great.

    Great for getting a community together - for those interested in GAA.

    Great for kids, who are interested in GAA.

    I played myself when I was young, and was very good at it. Enjoyed it immensely.

    But, had to move away to better myself, no jobs at home, went to collage etc.

    Some people could manage to keep playing - worked for their parents maybe, or very lucky to find work near home. Great for them, No problems with that.

    But , why are these people now often referred to as legends? Many still living with, or very close to mammy and daddy, working on parents business usually.

    Why are they called hero's for playing well.

    What about the kids who are good at say, art, or drama, or like reading? No one is publicly calling them "heros", and rightly so. Its not fair on them to be making so much of those who are into GAA.

    What about the young person who's made a life for themselves elsewhere, got themselves well educated, good job - no one is publicly calling them "Legends", and rightly so. Standing on there own 2 feet, and not easy getting there .

    GAA - its a game, with a ball, running around a field . . . all very good - but no need for it to be taking over, and so much in our face!!! There's other things out there, other interests.

    :confused::confused::rolleyes::P
    I think this is a very unfair post and is far from the truth. The building up of players, calling them heroes etc is not just in GAA but rugby, soccer and many other sports
    Why does it matter that sportspeople are considered heroes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    mammyod wrote: »
    I knew someone here would reply saying that!

    nope - not bitter at all . its just a very clear observation.

    Anyone living in rural Ireland will understand what im talking about.

    Iv no reason to be bitter - but definitely way too much made of these "Hero's and Legends" . Its just a fact! Watching my 3 boys growing up, now in there teens, not interested in GAA (but interested in other sports), and having to put up with and watch this carry on every weekend.

    In what way are you and your children having to “put up” with anything?
    Young people in your community play GAA and bring a massive sense of pride to the parish. People in the community get a huge amount of pleasure out of the success of the GAA club.
    So the team are feted as heroes and retired players are legends. They get a bit of superstar treatment around the town. So what? This happens all over the world.
    Your kids decided not to join the GAA club. I’m sure they enjoy themselves in other interests.
    Nobody is taking anything away from you and your kids. And here you are, a parent of teenagers, all eaten up with envy and resentment and begrudgery. Really? Take a long hard look at yourself because this is just sad. And by the way, you don’t know very much about other sports..there are hero’s and legends in every code.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    I do like the GAA, great skill and dedication, but it’s all about the small town blues. The prime of your life physically dedicated to working and living where you came from.
    I live far from home now and am often jibed about being an outsider when I attend local matches where I now live. All light hearted tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭North of 32


    Football especially, as a mass-appeal sport in Ireland, does lead to a lot of adulation for successful players among the public. Generally I just say, fair play.

    I do have one bugbear - not with inter-county football/hurling but rather the media and its obsession with the number of hours squads spend training.

    There are amateur athletes in other sports who have been making similar sacrifices and investing just as much time for a lot longer and get none of the same coverage or appreciation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,560 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Weird thread..

    Going to school, getting a decent education and a career is called life. It's a basis for any normal functioning person.

    Whereas being at the pinnacle of your sport is not


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Deise_abu


    WUM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    mammyod wrote: »
    I think their is way too much thought of GAA players.


    Why is a GAA player who plays well often publicly referred to as a hero? (tv / radio / papers etc)

    Why is a retired GAA player often publicly referred to as a legend?

    Dont get me wrong - I think the GAA is great.

    Great for getting a community together - for those interested in GAA.

    Great for kids, who are interested in GAA.

    I played myself when I was young, and was very good at it. Enjoyed it immensely.

    But, had to move away to better myself, no jobs at home, went to collage etc.


    Some people could manage to keep playing - worked for their parents maybe, or very lucky to find work near home. Great for them, No problems with that.

    But , why are these people now often referred to as legends? Many still living with, or very close to mammy and daddy, working on parents business usually.

    Why are they called hero's for playing well.

    What about the kids who are good at say, art, or drama, or like reading? No one is publicly calling them "heros", and rightly so. Its not fair on them to be making so much of those who are into GAA.


    What about the young person who's made a life for themselves elsewhere, got themselves well educated, good job - no one is publicly calling them "Legends", and rightly so. Standing on there own 2 feet, and not easy getting there .

    GAA - its a game, with a ball, running around a field . . . all very good - but no need for it to be taking over, and so much in our face!!! There's other things out there, other interests.


    :confused::confused::rolleyes::P

    GAA players and contrary to what you have said yourself players of other sports are referred to as legends and heros because they bring immense joy to the people who follow them. Young people idolise them and rightly so. This is a very strange thread I have to say. Sports people have always been looked up to and admired and thats the way it will always be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Local hero's for sure, aren't a lot of Irish rugby players referred to as hero's despite numerous disappointing results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    Weird thread for sure. Sporting "legends" are everywhere in every sport. Not just a GAA thing. Of all the things to knock the GAA on this is odd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Weird thread..

    Going to school, getting a decent education and a career is called life. It's a basis for any normal functioning person.

    Whereas being at the pinnacle of your sport is not

    I think the OP is suggesting that being at the pinnacle of GAA is not that great of an achievement. I would tend to agree. However, being lauded as a GAA hero can only exist if there are GAA fans to do the lauding. Of which there are plenty. Best of luck to them all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    KaneToad wrote: »
    I think the OP is suggesting that being at the pinnacle of GAA is not that great of an achievement. I would tend to agree. However, being lauded as a GAA hero can only exist if there are GAA fans to do the lauding. Of which there are plenty. Best of luck to them all.

    But what's different from a GAA legend to any other sporting legend?

    Are you suggesting any sports man or woman at the top of their sport should not be seen as hero's or legend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    mammyod wrote: »
    I think their is way too much thought of GAA players.


    Why is a GAA player who plays well often publicly referred to as a hero? (tv / radio / papers etc)

    Why is a retired GAA player often publicly referred to as a legend?

    Dont get me wrong - I think the GAA is great.

    Great for getting a community together - for those interested in GAA.

    Great for kids, who are interested in GAA.

    I played myself when I was young, and was very good at it. Enjoyed it immensely.

    But, had to move away to better myself, no jobs at home, went to collage etc.


    Some people could manage to keep playing - worked for their parents maybe, or very lucky to find work near home. Great for them, No problems with that.

    But , why are these people now often referred to as legends? Many still living with, or very close to mammy and daddy, working on parents business usually.

    Why are they called hero's for playing well.

    What about the kids who are good at say, art, or drama, or like reading? No one is publicly calling them "heros", and rightly so. Its not fair on them to be making so much of those who are into GAA.


    What about the young person who's made a life for themselves elsewhere, got themselves well educated, good job - no one is publicly calling them "Legends", and rightly so. Standing on there own 2 feet, and not easy getting there .

    GAA - its a game, with a ball, running around a field . . . all very good - but no need for it to be taking over, and so much in our face!!! There's other things out there, other interests.


    :confused::confused::rolleyes::P

    More GAA and less collage might have suited you better. Is that it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    But what's different from a GAA legend to any other sporting legend?

    Are you suggesting any sports man or woman at the top of their sport should not be seen as hero's or legend?

    The threshold to becoming the top of your sport, if your sport is GAA, is quite low - in my opinion. Although, I suppose it depends on what you consider the top of GAA is? But, who am I to suggest who people should consider heroes or legends. Each to their own.

    Edit: Apologies, have just realised this is the GAA forum. I thought it was AH. Will leave it to the GAA fans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    I have no problem with the 'hero' thing, if you use it as a shorthand for describing someone who has immense skill in something that many others take great pleasure from, and whom you would like to emulate. Someone who you may even, as a youngster, wished you were, as you pretended to be Michéal ó hEithir.

    Or from someone who gains the reputation on the field of being courageous, or brave. Or who represent themselves well, their place, their county, on the field of play. Those things are somehow valourous. An old-fashioned word, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

    What I do think is very unfair and unreasonable, is the 'role-model' thing that is now being increasingly attached.

    Camera-phones and social media. I hate them.

    Stupid OP, to be honest. Huge number of intercounty players now are collage-educated. Such is the commitment required.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    mammyod wrote: »
    I think their is way too much thought of GAA players.


    Why is a GAA player who plays well often publicly referred to as a hero? (tv / radio / papers etc)

    Why is a retired GAA player often publicly referred to as a legend?

    Dont get me wrong - I think the GAA is great.

    Great for getting a community together - for those interested in GAA.

    Great for kids, who are interested in GAA.

    I played myself when I was young, and was very good at it. Enjoyed it immensely.

    But, had to move away to better myself, no jobs at home, went to collage etc.


    Some people could manage to keep playing - worked for their parents maybe, or very lucky to find work near home. Great for them, No problems with that.

    But , why are these people now often referred to as legends? Many still living with, or very close to mammy and daddy, working on parents business usually.

    Why are they called hero's for playing well.

    What about the kids who are good at say, art, or drama, or like reading? No one is publicly calling them "heros", and rightly so. Its not fair on them to be making so much of those who are into GAA.


    What about the young person who's made a life for themselves elsewhere, got themselves well educated, good job - no one is publicly calling them "Legends", and rightly so. Standing on there own 2 feet, and not easy getting there .

    GAA - its a game, with a ball, running around a field . . . all very good - but no need for it to be taking over, and so much in our face!!! There's other things out there, other interests.


    :confused::confused::rolleyes::P

    For someone who says there is too much thought of GAA players..... Well you certainly put a lot of thought into it yourself!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭nqtfarmer


    I understand the OP’s point of view, find it amazing how ‘dedicated’ GAA lads are to training. 4 nights a week maybe. National Athletics, cycling or rowing athletes would be finishing their fourth session of the week around Wednesday evening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    nqtfarmer wrote: »
    I understand the OP’s point of view, find it amazing how ‘dedicated’ GAA lads are to training. 4 nights a week maybe. National Athletics, cycling or rowing athletes would be finishing their fourth session of the week around Wednesday evening

    Yes, but who are they, and who knows about them ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    nqtfarmer wrote: »
    I understand the OP’s point of view, find it amazing how ‘dedicated’ GAA lads are to training. 4 nights a week maybe. National Athletics, cycling or rowing athletes would be finishing their fourth session of the week around Wednesday evening
    theres plenty who do 2/3 pitch sessions then 3/4 gym so its more than 4 nights a week.
    I was involved workig in a gaa club for a while and would have seen many club players doing multiple gym and fitness sessions then their pitch sessions. Even when not out on pitch they would have their gym work and then doing skills sessions.
    Swimming, rowing, triathlons athletics etc do far more but think your criticism is a bit unfair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭nqtfarmer


    Yes, but who are they, and who knows about them ?

    Sonia o Sullivan, Thomas Barr, the o Donovan’s, Sean Kelly, Nicholas Roche, Ciara Meghan, Santos puspure, Katie Taylor, rob heffernan. But of course they are not from team sports or spectator sports so who cares? They’d never hit a 45 like Clucky would!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    nqtfarmer wrote: »
    Sonia o Sullivan, Thomas Barr, the o Donovan’s, Sean Kelly, Nicholas Roche, Ciara Meghan, Santos puspure, Katie Taylor, rob heffernan. But of course they are not from team sports or spectator sports so who cares? They’d never hit a 45 like Clucky would!

    But they are all legends/heros of their sport. So is Stephen Cluxton.
    So what's the difference?
    Some view Cluxton higher because they prefer GAA, other view Ciara Megan higher because they prefer Athletics.
    Some appreciate both and don't feel the need to differentiate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    nqtfarmer wrote: »
    Sonia o Sullivan, Thomas Barr, the o Donovan’s, Sean Kelly, Nicholas Roche, Ciara Meghan, Santos puspure, Katie Taylor, rob heffernan. But of course they are not from team sports or spectator sports so who cares? They’d never hit a 45 like Clucky would!

    I care enough to know that it's Nicolas, Sanita, and Mageean.

    Katie Taylor ? Sure, but no-one would have a fraction of the interest there is in her if she were a man. We've had plenty of world-class boxers, but boxing is out of fashion in general, unless it's about 'equality'.

    Cycling, likewise. It's own fault. But let's not forget -

    Sean Kelly was/is a hero, and Nicolas Roche's father likewise.

    Most of the names you mentioned there are minority interest sports. That has nothing to do with the admirable commitment they make.

    But then again, neither does the funding they receive for being something a bit more than amateur. Not that they get enough.

    Heroism is in the eyes of the beholder. Way more people behold hurling than race walking, therefore...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Hero's, legends don't have to be on big winning teams to become so in their own locality.
    Longford hasn't had much success football wise, but we have had our hero's, great footballers who stuck at it year after year with little or no success, just the love of the game.
    A, quick mention of a few from my memory, Seany Mc Cormick, Dessie Barry, Paudgie Davis, Paul Barden, there are many others too.
    Mullinalaghta club which won the leinster club title last year.
    It's not always winning that makes you a great or a hero or legend, it's dedication and endeavour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    Hero's, legends don't have to be on big winning teams to become so in their own locality.
    Longford hasn't had much success football wise, but we have had our hero's, great footballers who stuck at it year after year with little or no success, just the love of the game.
    A, quick mention of a few from my memory, Seany Mc Cormick, Dessie Barry, Paudgie Davis, Paul Barden, there are many others too.
    Mullinalaghta club which won the leinster club title last year.
    It's not always winning that makes you a great or a hero or legend, it's dedication and endeavour.

    YES.

    It's an emotional connection, especially to a sense of place.

    There's something specific about the Irish sense of place.

    The GAA taps into that in a way that doesn't easily translate to other sports, no matter how much we admire or enjoy them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 mammyod


    nqtfarmer wrote: »
    Sonia o Sullivan, Thomas Barr, the o Donovan’s, Sean Kelly, Nicholas Roche, Ciara Meghan, Santos puspure, Katie Taylor, rob heffernan. But of course they are not from team sports or spectator sports so who cares? They’d never hit a 45 like Clucky would!

    Big difference between Sonia o Sullivan (who i admire as a sportsperson), and a "hero / legend" who has played with the last 20 years for his club. Big deal - s/she liked football / hurling , and was good at it, and was lucky enough to live in the same village all his/her life. Iv no problem with sports-people being seen heroes and legends, and kids looking up to them, great, but doesn't need to be so much in your face from other adults / media, as my post specifies.

    Call in to Our Lady's Children's Hospital in Crumlin to see some real heroes in my eyes, who would give anything to be out playing a sport they love.

    (oh must do my spell check now in case iv any errors again!! ;) )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 mammyod


    YES.

    It's an emotional connection, especially to a sense of place.

    There's something specific about the Irish sense of place.

    The GAA taps into that in a way that doesn't easily translate to other sports, no matter how much we admire or enjoy them.

    so your saying it is different to other sports then?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    mammyod wrote: »
    so your saying it is different to other sports then?

    I was responding to, and agreeing with this obvious truth -
    Hero's, legends don't have to be on big winning teams to become so in their own locality.

    And that the GAA, being the only ubiquitous sporting organisation in Ireland, reflects that truth perfectly.

    So it is 'different'. Whether anyone likes it or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 sk9


    mammyod wrote: »
    Big difference between Sonia o Sullivan (who i admire as a sportsperson), and a "hero / legend" who has played with the last 20 years for his club. Big deal - s/she liked football / hurling , and was good at it, and was lucky enough to live in the same village all his/her life. Iv no problem with sports-people being seen heroes and legends, and kids looking up to them, great, but doesn't need to be so much in your face from other adults / media, as my post specifies.

    Call in to Our Lady's Children's Hospital in Crumlin to see some real heroes in my eyes, who would give anything to be out playing a sport they love.

    (oh must do my spell check now in case iv any errors again!! ;) )

    Sonia O'Sullivan is just good at putting one foot in front the other a few times in a row, "big deal" - if you speak about anything in such reductive terms it doesn't sound good does it? You ignore the bigger picture.

    Also if you have a problem with people admiring football players, why come to a GAA forum where you will encounter these people in such high concentrations?

    Finally, you can see heroes in Crumlin, and they sometimes get to meet their heroes; not really sure of the relevance "won't somebody think of the kids" angle
    though

    https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/the-morning-after-dublin-team-head-to-crumlin-childrens-hospital-after-legendary-five-in-a-row-win-38499832.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭thesultan


    What gets me is someone who goes to court for just say fighting. Paper has it that GAA star in brawl..

    A star me would be shefflin..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    KaneToad wrote: »
    The threshold to becoming the top of your sport, if your sport is GAA, is quite low - in my opinion. Although, I suppose it depends on what you consider the top of GAA is? But, who am I to suggest who people should consider heroes or legends. Each to their own.

    Edit: Apologies, have just realised this is the GAA forum. I thought it was AH. Will leave it to the GAA fans.

    I’d say the threshold to becoming the top of your sport in GAA is still a lot higher than in a sport like rugby in fairness. The original post and some of the subsequent replies is just good old fashioned gaa bashing. If we take rugby for example every match a “club” there’s a laugh by the way. Munster play win or lose is some sort of legendary occasion. The Irish rugby team who finish 8th in a 9 team WC FFS are seen as legends too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Luimneach2018


    I get that people who can be considered legends or heroes in my eyes won't be considered the same by other people. But I or anyone else don't get to decide if people considered heroes or legends are worthy of hero/legend status.

    It's all subjective, each to their own and all that. It's a bit like having a discussion over what the best colour is. There is no right/wrong answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    I’d say the threshold to becoming the top of your sport in GAA is still a lot higher than in a sport like rugby in fairness. The original post and some of the subsequent replies is just good old fashioned gaa bashing. If we take rugby for example every match a “club” there’s a laugh by the way. Munster play win or lose is some sort of legendary occasion. The Irish rugby team who finish 8th in a 9 team WC FFS are seen as legends too.
    this is really bitter IMO...
    What's an issue with club being used in terms of Munster or other provinces?
    In no way is every situation munster or other provinces play in made out as legendary
    And saying rugby world cup is only 9 teams is just petty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    this is really bitter IMO...
    What's an issue with club being used in terms of Munster or other provinces?
    In no way is every situation munster or other provinces play in made out as legendary
    And saying rugby world cup is only 9 teams is just petty.

    Who really considers Munster to be a club ?

    Shannon is a club. Young Munster is a club. Garryowen is a club.

    Munster is not a club. It's a representative team.

    The same way that Kilkenny is not a club, it's a representative team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Who really considers Munster to be a club ?

    Shannon is a club. Young Munster is a club. Garryowen is a club.

    Munster is not a club. It's a representative team.

    The same way that Kilkenny is not a club, it's a representative team.
    that isnt a fair comparison at all. You dont see many of the Munster players playing club rugby as well. It isnt like Kilkenny hurlers or Kerry footballers.
    The pro rugby players only play AIL club rugby If injured, on comeback from injury or if they are 4th/5th choice and nowhere near getting any game time with the province. Munater very much are like a club. The provinces play minimum of 25 games a season in league/europe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    mammyod wrote: »
    Great for getting a community together

    I agree.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    sasta le wrote: »
    They are always moaning about their welfare poor things

    -1

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



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