US comedians on Netflix

Dots1982

I’m bamboozled by how unfunny US comedians are on Netflix.

I’ve watched Tom Segal, Anthony Jeselik and Pete Davidson. All a struggle to get through. I quit Jeselik after 20 mins.

I also watched dave chapelle. Better but I would be hard pressed to recommend it.

It didn’t seem the crowd were all that into the “bad” three so how do they get the work?

One More Toy

Dots1982 wrote: »

I’m bamboozled by how unfunny US comedians are on Netflix.

I’ve watched Tom Segal, Anthony Jeselik and Pete Davidson. All a struggle to get through. I quit Jeselik after 20 mins.

I also watched dave chapelle. Better but I would be hard pressed to recommend it.

It didn’t seem the crowd were all that into the “bad” three so how do they get the work?

Chapelle is legendary

robman60

Pretty much agree. Netflix tries to be a bit too woke for my liking, it's largely an American problem.

Thelonious Monk

Watch Louis CK's Netflix special, he's a different class

Dots1982

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Watch Louis CK's Netflix special, he's a different class

Louis CK is the best around. He’s exempt from this topic.

Im trying to think of one American stand up performer i find funny.

Not to say I find all irish or British comedians funny either..

Humour is as subjective as all your other tastes.

Chris Rock springs to mind as being funny to me.

How that show with the three pranksters gets renewed is beyond me. I saw a clip of Mike Murphy's Candid Camera earlier today which is a similar premise, but it had me in stitches.

American comedy tends to be over the top which I don't like.

Cultural differences, difference in tastes..

NIMAN

I would agree that most of them are average enough.

I stuck with some of them, but didn't really find a lot of them funny.

Ones I did enjoy though were from the Degenerates series, Nikki Glaser, Robert Kelly and Jim Norton.

Irish Guitarist

I agree for the most part. One of the worst I've seen was Patton Oswalt. I watched a bit of his Netflix special and switched it off after he spent about five minutes going on about Trump being an orange Cheeto. Another one was Norm McDonald. I did a Google search out of curiosity to see if anyone on any forums thought he was as unfunny as I found him but he seems to be universally loved. I really don't get it.

One American standup I find funny is Bill Burr. At least his older stuff is funny. His newer stuff is verging on being politically correct. In his latest special he's going on about he and the wife (a black woman) watching an Elvis documentary and her complaining about Elvis' 'white privilege'. I was expecting him to say something funny about this but instead he says he agrees with her. I don't necessarily find just being non-PC funny either though. I watched a bit of Anthony Jezelnek (or however it's spelled) and thought he just came across as an asshole.

Titclamp

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I agree for the most part. One of the worst I've seen was Patton Oswalt. I watched a bit of his Netflix special and switched it off after he spent about five minutes going on about Trump being an orange Cheeto. Another one was Norm McDonald. I did a Google search out of curiosity to see if anyone on any forums thought he was as unfunny as I found him but he seems to be universally loved. I really don't get it.

One American standup I find funny is Bill Burr. At least his older stuff is funny. His newer stuff is verging on being politically correct. In his latest special he's going on about he and the wife (a black woman) watching an Elvis documentary and her complaining about Elvis' 'white privilege'. I was expecting him to say something funny about this but instead he says he agrees with her. I don't necessarily find just being non-PC funny either though. I watched a bit of Anthony Jezelnek (or however it's spelled) and thought he just came across as an asshole.

Norm is Canadian.

threeball

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I agree for the most part. One of the worst I've seen was Patton Oswalt. I watched a bit of his Netflix special and switched it off after he spent about five minutes going on about Trump being an orange Cheeto. Another one was Norm McDonald. I did a Google search out of curiosity to see if anyone on any forums thought he was as unfunny as I found him but he seems to be universally loved. I really don't get it.

One American standup I find funny is Bill Burr. At least his older stuff is funny. His newer stuff is verging on being politically correct. In his latest special he's going on about he and the wife (a black woman) watching an Elvis documentary and her complaining about Elvis' 'white privilege'. I was expecting him to say something funny about this but instead he says he agrees with her. I don't necessarily find just being non-PC funny either though. I watched a bit of Anthony Jezelnek (or however it's spelled) and thought he just came across as an asshole.

All the Bill Burr stuff on Netflix is hilarious bar walk your way out. That was a dud. The other stuff is irreverent and fantastic.

cj maxx

Dave Chapelle. That's a blast from the past

cian68

I'm convinced stand up specials are bad and you are meant to see it live

AllForIt

robman60 wrote: »

Pretty much agree. Netflix tries to be a bit too woke for my liking, it's largely an American problem.

You might like Andrew Doyle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqQBLIzDDUQ

And his fictitious creation Tatania McGrath

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Irish Guitarist wrote: »

One American standup I find funny is Bill Burr. At least his older stuff is funny. His newer stuff is verging on being politically correct. In his latest special he's going on about he and the wife (a black woman) watching an Elvis documentary and her complaining about Elvis' 'white privilege'. I was expecting him to say something funny about this but instead he says he agrees with her. I don't necessarily find just being non-PC funny either though

OH JEEZ

Big ole billy red balls.

He’s a king. F is for Family is decent. The specials are decent. I think the podcast is where he shines, and also especially in live situations - the live footage of the presidential elections where he is with joe rogan is ****ing gold. He’s one of those pros who can do it on the fly.

Stand up comedy is so 2008..

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I agree for the most part. One of the worst I've seen was Patton Oswalt. I watched a bit of his Netflix special and switched it off after he spent about five minutes going on about Trump being an orange Cheeto. Another one was Norm McDonald. I did a Google search out of curiosity to see if anyone on any forums thought he was as unfunny as I found him but he seems to be universally loved. I really don't get it.

One American standup I find funny is Bill Burr. At least his older stuff is funny. His newer stuff is verging on being politically correct. In his latest special he's going on about he and the wife (a black woman) watching an Elvis documentary and her complaining about Elvis' 'white privilege'. I was expecting him to say something funny about this but instead he says he agrees with her. I don't necessarily find just being non-PC funny either though. I watched a bit of Anthony Jezelnek (or however it's spelled) and thought he just came across as an asshole.

Bill Burr’s latest show wasn’t politically correct FFS. It just shows how entrenched people are that him taking his wife’s point on board is seen as political correctness and a big capitulation rather than just being reasonable. That Elvis bit was funny to me. And honestly, I don’t want comedians to say what I expect them to say. How boring would that be? They should be aiming to surprise people and present new perspectives.

Deebles McBeebles

No one's mentioned Jeselnik. He's a f*cking dark genius. An angrier Daniel Sloss, a less Scottish Frankie Boyle.

JohnnyFlash

At least we haven’t had some middle-aged bore arrive in to tell us that Bill Hicks was the greatest comedian of all time, and that the sight of a sweaty and unhealthy angry alcoholic ranting about Waco was somehow the pinnacle of comedy.

Hicks belongs in the 90’s with Beavis and Butthead, Pearl Jam T-shirt’s, and the Sony Discman.

artvanderlay

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I agree for the most part. One of the worst I've seen was Patton Oswalt. I watched a bit of his Netflix special and switched it off after he spent about five minutes going on about Trump being an orange Cheeto. Another one was Norm McDonald. I did a Google search out of curiosity to see if anyone on any forums thought he was as unfunny as I found him but he seems to be universally loved. I really don't get it.

One American standup I find funny is Bill Burr. At least his older stuff is funny. His newer stuff is verging on being politically correct. In his latest special he's going on about he and the wife (a black woman) watching an Elvis documentary and her complaining about Elvis' 'white privilege'. I was expecting him to say something funny about this but instead he says he agrees with her. I don't necessarily find just being non-PC funny either though. I watched a bit of Anthony Jezelnek (or however it's spelled) and thought he just came across as an asshole.

Norm is one of the funniest guys out there, but that Netflix special of his doesn't do him justice. He's much funnier on his old podcast Norm MacDonald live, where he just f*cks with the guests throughout (and I don't mean his piece of sh*t Netflix chat show that again totally sucked the fun out of him: I actually think getting that show, and having to tow the line has nearly killed Norm. He has aged and looks very ill since). Check out his interviews with David Spade, Todd Glass, Stephen Merchant, Larry King, Bob Saget etc if you want to see funny Norm.



Norm at his best:


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5vaqxy

barney shamrock

Bill Hicks was the greatest of all time.
Look up his Waco routines from the 90s.

evil_seed

Humour is subjective. I find all the comedians listed hilarious.

They might not be your cup of tea, so what. Maybe Peter Kay is, or Michael whatshisface. I don't like them but I'm not gonna start a thread about it.

Humour is subjective, it's that simple

artvanderlay

Another great. Brian Regan.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7sgN1Hb2zY&t=229s

Hoop66

AllForIt wrote: »

You might like Andrew Doyle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqQBLIzDDUQ

And his fictitious creation Tatania McGrath

He's about as funny as a Chinese fella coughing directly into your mouth. The Titania McGrath "character" literally has one joke.

Woke Hogan

The problem with comedy is it’s gotten far too mainstream and people seem to have this idea that all comedy is supposed to be like pop music, i.e. appealing to everyone.

The super sensitive weepy PC crowd and the snarling racists are two cheeks of the same arse in this respect, they both expect every comedian to share and espouse the views that they (the viewer) hold and scorn them if they don’t.

At least the right-wing spastics only bitch and moan if the comics they watch are too “progressive” for them, the liberal Twitterati will release the hounds of war towards anyone they find problematic.

Descending upon their victim like a school of piranha with nose rings, they trawl through the archives of the internet sniffing for blood. A delicious racial slur used as a joke in 2008 will render any up and comer persona non grata for the right-thinking, left-wing moral police.

Sugarlumps

Tom Segura.

s7ryf3925pivug

Quite liked Tom Papa's You're Doing Great.

A lot of comedians mix in political views. He mixes in a kind of life coaching. "You don't need a five hour energy drink - you need to lie down once in a while."

magic_murph

Can women really be funny?

Flesh Gorden

Tim Dillon is the only modern comic I make an effort to listen to.

PC, he most definitely is not.... so chances of him getting a Netflix special are unlikely.

There's a touch of an Alex Jones about him, if Alex realised how hilarious a caricature he really is.

Even the first few mins of his latest podcast episode are pretty out there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3hvQXGsc0g

PsychoPete

magic_murph wrote: »

Can women really be funny?

Of course, if the material and delivery is good

razorblunt

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

No one's mentioned Jeselnik. He's a f*cking dark genius. An angrier Daniel Sloss, a less Scottish Frankie Boyle.

Sloss cut his teeth at the Edinburgh Fringe for years and it shows in his material.
I went to see him about 7 years ago without knowing much and I thought he was very good.


The main problem with many comedians is that they go "mainstream" and you can't blame them following the cash but it means that you see them on tv on panel shows with scripted lines and think they're hilarious. When they do their stand up they either struggle themselves or you end up so used to hitting line after line that you can't wait for the punchline so may find the setup boring.

WrenBoy

artvanderlay wrote: »

Norm is one of the funniest guys out there, but that Netflix special of his doesn't do him justice. He's much funnier on his old podcast Norm MacDonald live, where he just f*cks with the guests throughout

Norms humour is super weird and people either love it or hate it, I agree that his special doesn't show it though he's way better off the cuff and in the podcasts, if you watch his interviews on youtube on different radio and tv shows they are gold... I remember one where he basically convinced this radio host who was trying to keep everything light and fun that he was a depressed loner incapable of feeling love and dragged it out for ages, I was in stitches.

Silentcorner

Has anyone checked out Hannah Gatsby's Nanette on Netflix...it has a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

It was described as reinventing comedy.

It was the worst hour of comedy I have ever suffered through, pure self indulgence of the worst kind.

Two words accurately describe it.

Feminist Comedy.

magic_murph

Silentcorner wrote: »

Has anyone checked out Hannah Gatsby's Nanette on Netflix...it has a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

It was described as reinventing comedy.

It was the worst hour of comedy I have ever suffered through, pure self indulgence of the worst kind.

Two words accurately describe it.

Feminist Comedy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aE29fiatQ0

From that clip I did not see or hear any comedy. Its more a self help monologue.
With the routine she be better off on the couch next to Oprah pouring her heart out.

Very few 'real' comics out there these days - its all about being PC and hitting the on trend topics which is not unique seeing as every other comedian is essentially telling the same joke.

Dots1982

The comics I mentioned in the opening post are non pc. It was Tom Segura not Segal

I love that aussie ****. Can't remember his name. Has a netflix special, is autistic.

Sirsok

Bo Burnham two specials are very good. Off the wall humour, jokes you dont see coming. Very clever!

artvanderlay

WrenBoy wrote: »

Norms humour is super weird and people either love it or hate it, I agree that his special doesn't show it though he's way better off the cuff and in the podcasts, if you watch his interviews on youtube on different radio and tv shows they are gold... I remember one where he basically convinced this radio host who was trying to keep everything light and fun that he was a depressed loner incapable of feeling love and dragged it out for ages, I was in stitches.

Any time Norm analyses old pop songs is gold too. The Pina Colada song is a prime example. Can't dig out the link but look it up.



Also another classic Norm bit



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6VH4gF9jgQ


"I have nothing against gay guys but the country music fan traditionally does not like songs that have a lot of jizz drinking in them". :pac:

Keyzer

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I watched a bit of Anthony Jezelnek (or however it's spelled) and thought he just came across as an asshole.

He is an asshole. His joke about Eric Clapton's son is disgraceful.

magic_murph

Keyzer wrote: »

He is an asshole. His joke about Eric Clapton's son is disgraceful.

Its a joke - no malice intended I'm sue.

I comedy should be allowed to make jokes, they are jokes at the end of the day, about any topic - nothing off limits.

Deebles McBeebles

Jeselnik definitely is an asshole. A f*cking hilarious one though.

TimesArrow

Interesting topic.. I like the Joe Rogan podcast but find his stand-up to be pretty woeful. Same for the regular comedy guests on his show; whitney Cummings, tom segura, ari schiffer and especially Bert Kreischer.

Have to say, I do like Jeselnik's stuff

Wompa1

I'm all about this turning into a thread about Norm. His Netflix stuff was awful. I didn't like his other Comedy Central stand up too much either yet other Comedians say it's one of the best. Though, his little off the cuff bit at the end about OJ Simpson in prison for stealing his own stuff and then trying to convince the other inmates that he did commit the murders because of the pecking order in prison.

Double murderers, pretty near the top. Guys who steal their own stuff....

I went to see him do standup twice. One time he was terrible. The other time with a much smaller crowd, he was incredible. I've been lucky enough to attend the filming of one of Louis CK's special and Norm was right there with him in terms of quality for that one show. He seems to be a self saboteur.

Also, he did a recurring bit on a morning radio show in LA. He phoned in and pretended he was working on adding a ventriloquist part to his stand up (around when Jeff Dunham was huge). He has multiple "pals" as he called them including one grump old man puppet who was a Holocaust denier. So basically he was getting away with telling anti-semetic jokes on morning radio under the idea it was a character.

WrenBoy

Wompa1 wrote: »

Also, he did a recurring bit on a morning radio show in LA. He phoned in and pretended he was working on adding a ventriloquist part to his stand up (around when Jeff Dunham was huge). He has multiple "pals" as he called them including one grump old man puppet who was a Holocaust denier. So basically he was getting away with telling anti-semetic jokes on morning radio under the idea it was a character.

Dennis Miller show, theres a compilation on Youtube of all the times they call Norm and its great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpOol74qhqQ

Him sabotaging the Youtube Awards show was hilarious too.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

I will forever love Norm MacDonald for his ‘90s Michael Jackson jokes. The big, brass balls on him.

artvanderlay

Wompa1 wrote: »

I'm all about this turning into a thread about Norm. His Netflix stuff was awful. I didn't like his other Comedy Central stand up too much either yet other Comedians say it's one of the best. Though, his little off the cuff bit at the end about OJ Simpson in prison for stealing his own stuff and then trying to convince the other inmates that he did commit the murders because of the pecking order in prison.

Double murderers, pretty near the top. Guys who steal their own stuff....

I went to see him do standup twice. One time he was terrible. The other time with a much smaller crowd, he was incredible. I've been lucky enough to attend the filming of one of Louis CK's special and Norm was right there with him in terms of quality for that one show. He seems to be a self saboteur.

Also, he did a recurring bit on a morning radio show in LA. He phoned in and pretended he was working on adding a ventriloquist part to his stand up (around when Jeff Dunham was huge). He has multiple "pals" as he called them including one grump old man puppet who was a Holocaust denier. So basically he was getting away with telling anti-semetic jokes on morning radio under the idea it was a character.

Rusty was the anti-semitic puppet. As Norm said "that guy's plain wrong!"

I also love Norm's bit about Joe Camel, the cigarette mascot, looking like a cock (4:40 onwards)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBmIoUO7_Gc

Sober Crappy Chemis

Keyzer wrote: »

He is an asshole. His joke about Eric Clapton's son is disgraceful.

.... and exceptionally unfunny.

Irish Guitarist

magic_murph wrote: »

Its a joke - no malice intended I'm sue.

I comedy should be allowed to make jokes, they are jokes at the end of the day, about any topic - nothing off limits.

No one said comedians aren't allowed to make jokes. They're allowed to make jokes and people are allowed to have the opinion that the jokes they tell make them sound like an asshole.

And I know Eric Clapton is worth millions but he probably occasionally sits down and watches Netflix. So telling a joke about his son dying tragically does indeed make him an asshole.

I'm not into political correctness. Comedians can tell all the racist, sexist, homophobic jokes they want. When they make fun of an individuals tragedy though it makes me think they're a dickhead. It doesn't mean I want them banned. It just means I don't find them amusing.

completedit

What is it about Irish people and the need to specify how unfunny American comedy is? It’s so weird. This is the same country that gave us The Naked Gun, The Simpsons, Always Sunny, Brooklyn 99, My Wife and Kids, Scary Movie, Superbad, Step Brothers, the list is endless.

Dots1982

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

completedit wrote: »

What is it about Irish people and the need to specify how unfunny American comedy is? It’s so weird. This is the same country that gave us The Naked Gun, The Simpsons, Always Sunny, Brooklyn 99, My Wife and Kids, Scary Movie, Superbad, Step Brothers, the list is endless.

You haven’t mentioned one stand up comedian which is what the topic is about so your point has very little merit. I don’t mean that as a putdown, i Just mean as a straight fact.

kowloon

AllForIt wrote: »

You might like Andrew Doyle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqQBLIzDDUQ

And his fictitious creation Tatania McGrath

I think with a character-based act like that they need to get out and engage with the world. As a stand-up act it just seems like flogging a stereotype for 7 mins longer than was necessary and not much else. As a Sacha Baron Cohen type character going about messing with people it would work better imo. It's almost like it's all personal taste.

Except for Jim Davidson, he's just a bitter prick.

NIMAN

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Jeselnik definitely is an asshole. A f*cking hilarious one though.

I thought his jokes and humour were funny enough but his slow delivery style is painful.

Each show could have lasted half the time if he spoke normally.