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Naomi Seibt-German Climate truth telling Teen

  • 03-03-2020 9:12am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭


    So this young lady is fighting against climate change and carbon tax nonsense. It's so refreshing to see a young person actually use their minds and question the politically correct brainwashing going on.

    Many describe her as a anti Greta Thunberg or rival to Greta but to be honest that's insulting to Naomi, I think she would destroy Greta in a debate Naomi is erudite, lettered, rational and logical everything Greta isn't and all Greta does is parrot the crap shes told to say for €€€€, she actually can't debate hence why she doesn't!.

    I like in this video the politically correct host uses that unbelievably stupid phrase 'Climate Change denier' and Naomi points out how stupid it is to use such a foolish term at 3 mins. The host is saltier than the sea with that but it's true. It's a profoundly stupid term shouldn't even enter the lexicon of anyone with a mind.

    I find it ironic it's teens debating these things in the public eye and not scientists however if someone is an antidote to that young harridan Greta it's fine by me.

    There is people asking her to debate Greta online but Greta never ever agree to it, she be rinsed in a debate all Greta can do is push carbon tax and humans are bad for the planet propaganda.

    But at least this young lady Naomi has a mind of her own and questions things, also like many German's shes intelligent and frank and that makes her refreshing in interviews.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,352 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I like in this video the politically correct host uses that unbelievably stupid phrase 'Climate Change denier' and Naomi points out how stupid it is to use such a foolish term at 3 mins. The host is saltier than the sea with that but it's true. It's a profoundly stupid term shouldn't even enter the lexicon of anyone with a mind.

    It was the young lady who brought up that term.

    If are you going to start a thread and have that as one of your main issues, maybe study the 4 minute video a little better.

    Also it's Fox News, it has a big scary virus selloff clock in the corner, they would hardly be considered politically correct.

    "Rinsed in a debate" - you sound like a teenage girl yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,872 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    A big fan of Stefan molyneux and she openly declared how much she loves white nationalists.
    Your grand ta.
    The US right wingers and fans of Fox news might swallow this guff but not a lot of others thankfully.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    Boggles wrote: »
    It was the young lady who brought up that term.

    If are you going to start a thread and have that as one of your main issues, maybe study the 4 minute video a little better.

    Also it's Fox News, it has a big scary virus selloff clock in the corner, they would hardly be considered politically correct.

    :rolleyes:

    Look at from 3 minute mark, Naomi points out how foolish her term and question is. Host is salty as feck!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,352 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Look at from 3 minute mark, Naomi points out how foolish her term and question is.

    Again if you can't interrupt a 4 minute fox news puff piece filler interview I am beginning to think your scientific credentials may be lacking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,413 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    I'd like to see more of this youngone, she didn't really get a chance to expand on her views beyond 'the climate is always changing', she says that man-made CO2 emissions have negligible impact on the climate, but why does she think that?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    Boggles wrote: »
    Again if you can't interrupt a 4 minute fox news puff piece filler interview I am beginning to think your scientific credentials may be lacking.

    Erm who said I have scientific credentials?.

    Well I have as much as Greta, none!.

    But I'm not getting paid tens of thousands to fly around the globe first class stay in 5 star hotels selling lies to unbelievably naive adults who think a kid getting bankrolled who can't debate one single topic she brings up is some sort of demagogue and she is right on everything.

    See I actually question things and try and come to my own conclusions. I'm certainly no expert and neither are you!.

    Scientific credentials LOL so what's yours anyways, gimme a break pal :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,731 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    "Greta's just a kid with no scientific credentials, why the hell should we listen to her! Hey everybody, listen to this kid with no scientific credentials instead!"

    Anybody who thinks that this woman is any less of a 'front' for vested interests than they accuse Greta Thunberg of being is happily deluding themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    osarusan wrote: »
    Anybody who thinks that this woman is any less of a 'front' for vested interests than they accuse Greta Thunberg of being is happily deluding themselves.

    Who's she a front for?.

    Go on let's her the latest carbon tax brigade brainwashing.

    The Nazi's?. Maybe the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler?.

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,352 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    See I actually question things and try and come to my own conclusions.

    Good for you.
    I'm certainly no expert and neither are you!.

    Indeed.

    So what expert or experts are you questioning and what alternative thesis have you formulated and on what basis?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭Cheshire Cat


    Who's she a front for?.

    Go on let's her the latest carbon tax brigade brainwashing.

    The Nazi's?. Maybe the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler?.

    :rolleyes:

    Just read up on her, she's a pretty blonde poster girl for the right-wing AfD. Her mother is closely associated with that party. But of course, she's completely unbiased ;)
    I'd also be interested in her "research". How many papers has she published on the topic? She is right that climate has always changed, but saying human impact is negligible is rather questionable. Would love to hear how she backs that up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    Boggles wrote: »
    Good for you.



    Indeed.

    So what expert or experts are you questioning and what alternative thesis have you formulated and on what basis?



    I would like to think I am a threat to the planet but I know I'm not. I'm not some immortal being like Superman who can pose a real threat I think it's all nonsense to rinse us of our money and bring in restrictions on birth etc like China in future. I frankly think it's a mental illness to assume you are some sort of threat to the planet.

    Those extinction rebellion headcases for example. Do any of them even work or contribute a cent to society?. All they do is disrupt everything saying the planet be dead in 10 years or some other such bullshyte.

    It's mindless alarmism.

    Well a few people I like on the subject but the late great George Carlin sums up my views succinctly.

    Trust me pal, you and I are no threat to the planet. Never have been never will be. So it's refreshing to see a young intelligent lady say so.

    Common sense- Let's embrace it before it's made illegal eh!.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Who's she a front for?.

    Go on let's her the latest carbon tax brigade brainwashing.

    The Nazi's?. Maybe the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler?.

    :rolleyes:

    34 minutes to Godwin your own thread. Very impressive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,352 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I would like to think I am a threat to the planet but I know I'm not. I'm not some immortal being like Superman who can pose a real threat I think it's all nonsense to rinse us of our money and bring in restrictions on birth etc like China in future. I frankly think it's a mental illness to assume you are some sort of threat to the planet.

    Those extinction rebellion headcases for example. Do any of them even work or contribute a cent to society?. All they do is disrupt everything saying the planet be dead in 10 years or some other such bullshyte.

    It's mindless alarmism.

    Well a few people I like on the subject but the late great George Carlin sums up my views succinctly.

    Trust me pal, you and I are no threat to the planet. Never have been never will be. So it's refreshing to see a young intelligent lady say so.

    Common sense- Let's embrace it before it's made illegal eh!.


    So I asked what expert or experts you question and you post a youtube clip of a comedian.

    Right, as you were lad.

    Fúcking complete waste of fúcking time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭Cheshire Cat


    I would like to think I am a threat to the planet but I know I'm not.

    Trust me pal, you and I are no threat to the planet. Never have been never will be. So it's refreshing to see a young intelligent lady say so.

    You singular are definitely no threat to the planet, it's the combined effort of humanity, the effect of roughly 8 billions of yous that threatens the planet.
    One locust won't devastate a crop it takes loads of them!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    34 minutes to Godwin your own thread. Very impressive.

    Ah sur might as well get in before all those extinction rebellion unemployed crusty types get in and start rattling on about Hitler and the planet dying in 10 years and we all have to give up cars etc, also it's a very quiet day at work!.

    34 mins?. Was it. Are my posts that important to you, you note the time they are posted and gaps between them?

    I'm flattered. You're making me blush pal!. ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    Boggles wrote: »
    So I asked what expert or experts you question and you post a youtube clip of a comedian.

    Right, as you were lad.

    Fúcking complete waste of fúcking time.

    So you want a list of experts?.

    See the problem with that is you will immediately start discrediting them as you don't agree with them. Doesn't go along with your pay carbon tax brainwashing.

    But here's a list of experts who are excellent on the climate anyways.

    Fred Singer
    Roy Spencer
    Chris Mockton
    David Bellamy (RIP)
    Piers Corbyn

    All of these would destroy most climate alarmists types in a debate (even David Bellamy who's dead!)

    Also I don't like these 'expert' talk anyway what makes one an expert?.

    George Carlin was a comedian yes but he was also one of America's greatest ever with an incredibly sharp and intelligent mind. His analysis is as valid as many 'experts' why not?.

    Again what defines an expert?. Load of balls if you ask me!.

    Because you are taken in by the mindless unfounded brainwashing you will poo poo these men immediately however.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,352 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    So you want a list of experts?.

    My question could not have been clearer, here it is again.
    Boggles wrote: »
    Indeed.

    So what expert or experts are you questioning and what alternative thesis have you formulated and on what basis?

    If you could answer without the ranting and raving and boring e-hard nonsense I'd greatly appreciate it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    Boggles wrote: »
    My question could not have been clearer, here it is again.



    If you could answer without the ranting and raving and boring e-hard nonsense I'd greatly appreciate it.

    May I kindly ask you to answer the question first please?

    So what expert or experts you believe and what thesis have you formulated and on what basis?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,194 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    I don't think she knows any more about it than that other kiddo. Fuck the lot of them. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,413 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Any more vids of her? Wouldn't mind hearing what she has to actually say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,352 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    May I kindly ask you to answer the question first please?

    So what expert or experts you believe and what thesis have you formulated and on what basis?

    No. Your thread, your claims.

    So you first my dear boy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭Cheshire Cat


    Any more vids of her? Wouldn't mind hearing what she has to actually say

    She does have a YouTube presence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    Boggles wrote: »
    No. Your thread, your claims.

    So you first my dear boy.

    What's with the cowardice?. You want me to explain my position but you won't explain yours?. Hardly fair that is it?.

    Honey darling are you afraid you might have to take down your Greta Thunberg posters off your bedroom wall when you inevitably lose the debate?. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,352 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    What's with the cowardice?. You want me to explain my position but you won't explain yours?. Hardly fair that is it?.

    Is there some comprehension difficulties I should know about? I have been crystal clear.
    Boggles wrote: »
    No. Your thread, your claims.

    So you first my dear boy.

    So far we have had deflection and name calling.

    So when you are ready.

    Good lad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    tough guys online knocking a young girl, classy.

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    So this young lady is fighting against climate change and carbon tax nonsense. It's so refreshing to see a young person actually use their minds and question the politically correct brainwashing going on.

    Many describe her as a anti Greta Thunberg or rival to Greta but to be honest that's insulting to Naomi, I think she would destroy Greta in a debate Naomi is erudite, lettered, rational and logical everything Greta isn't and all Greta does is parrot the crap shes told to say for €€€€, she actually can't debate hence why she doesn't!.

    I like in this video the politically correct host uses that unbelievably stupid phrase 'Climate Change denier' and Naomi points out how stupid it is to use such a foolish term at 3 mins. The host is saltier than the sea with that but it's true. It's a profoundly stupid term shouldn't even enter the lexicon of anyone with a mind.

    I find it ironic it's teens debating these things in the public eye and not scientists however if someone is an antidote to that young harridan Greta it's fine by me.

    There is people asking her to debate Greta online but Greta never ever agree to it, she be rinsed in a debate all Greta can do is push carbon tax and humans are bad for the planet propaganda.

    You are either incredibly gullible or just another disengenuous poster.


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    tough guys online knocking a young girl, classy.

    ;)

    Erm, the op is repeatedly bashing Thunberg... So you must think pretty lowly of them.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What's with the cowardice?. You want me to explain my position but you won't explain yours?. Hardly fair that is it?.

    Honey darling are you afraid you might have to take down your Greta Thunberg posters off your bedroom wall when you inevitably lose the debate?. ;)

    This kind of language suggests your more interested in making your opposition "salty".

    You made the initial claim. You should be able to back it up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    Boggles wrote: »
    Is there some comprehension difficulties I should know about? I have been crystal clear.



    So far we have had deflection and name calling.

    So when you are ready.

    Good lad.


    Ah yes name calling like good lad, dear boy etc etc. Are you referring to yourself?. Or are you so devoid of any self awareness at all you can't even see you are being staggeringly hypocritical here my dear child?. :rolleyes:


    I don't believe those that push humans are solely responsible for carbon nonsense and humans are some threat to the planet, it's utter crap. Can't cite my sources now in work and have to pretend to be doing something too like!.:P


    But I have time for Naomi, she's erudite and well spoken on the facts of the issue, I also think she would mince the extinction rebellion crusties in a debate.

    I think you are forgetting the thread is on her not necessarily my beliefs on climate change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,352 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Can't cite my sources now in work and have to pretend to be doing something too like!.:P

    Really?
    it's a very quiet day at work!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    Rumbled ha ha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    I have a feeling she won't be getting online abuse from parents and grandparents of teenagers, who put "Be kind xxxx" on their social media profiles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    Boggles wrote: »
    Really?

    Yes work Should try it sometime pal, bit better money than the dole and living solely to post on boards.ie!. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Is she on porn hub


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Not sure if shes right but definitely some refreshing balance to grifter thunberg.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    Birneybau wrote: »
    You are either incredibly gullible or just another disengenuous poster.

    Meh!

    I would personally say the Extinction rebellion clowns are the incredibly gullible ones.

    These fools can't even bathe themselves yet genuinely think PERSONALLY are a threat to the planet.

    Hell even superman was real wouldn't be a threat to the planet!.

    These folk are gullible beyond belief and sadly very mentally ill. Imagine thinking the planet will come to an end within 10 odd years and worse try and force that madness down the throats of those on the street or worse stop people going to work as they never had to get up and go to work.

    Delusional angry go nowhere headcases led by a teenager from Sweden. It's like some sort of cult only worse!.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    Not sure if shes right but definitely some refreshing balance to grifter thunberg.

    You'll see feck on debate on it as sadly the Thunberg worship/brainwashing is strong on this site. Criticise her and watch the vultures circle!. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Not sure if shes right but definitely some refreshing balance to grifter thunberg.

    Balance me hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Meh!

    I would personally say the Extinction rebellion clowns are the incredibly gullible ones.

    These fools can't even bathe themselves yet genuinely think PERSONALLY are a threat to the planet.

    Hell even superman was real wouldn't be a threat to the planet!.

    These folk are gullible beyond belief and sadly very mentally ill. Imagine thinking the planet will come to an end within 10 odd years and worse try and force that madness down the throats of those on the street or worse stop people going to work as they never had to get up and go to work.

    Delusional angry go nowhere headcases led by a teenager from Sweden. It's like some sort of cult only worse!.

    The gullibility here is the notion that Extinction Rebellion or Greta suggested the planet will end. The issue is whether mankind will continue to create a scenario where environmental impact will endanger the continuance of human society, along with a bunch of other species. The planet will be grand - with or without us, just as it kept doing it’s thing after every other extinction.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,352 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Yes work Should try it sometime pal, bit better money than the dole and living solely to post on boards.ie!. :)

    Rage posting from your mothers spare bedroom is not a job, you do know that right?

    ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    You'll see feck on debate on it as sadly the Thunberg worship/brainwashing is strong on this site. Criticise her and watch the vultures circle!. ;)
    I've no issue with disagreement of her. In fact I'm not a fan (not the girl herself but those who puppet her, and it's eejity to worship her). However the criticism and disagreeing can be done without the disgusting online abuse - including of a sexual nature - by vile hypocrites who'd claim outrage if muslims spoke about a young girl that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    I could understand people's scepticism about climate change if we were still back in the 70s and lacked all of the data that we have now. In much the same way, I could understand people's beliefs in a flat earth if they lived in a jungle.

    But in this day in age, does it not seem a little bit late in the game for denialism?

    And while I'm here, why is there such an overlap between climate denialism and light racism? I don't get the connection at all but for some reason, the types of people who deny climate change are the same types who defend and downplay people like Tommy Robinson and Stefan Molineaux.

    Seriously, what's the connection? Am I missing something? Or is it simply the case that stupid people are drawn to stupid ideas in the same way that moon-landing denialists and anti-vaxers are?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    I could understand people's scepticism about climate change if we were still back in the 70s and lacked all of the data that we have now. In much the same way, I could understand people's beliefs in a flat earth if they lived in a jungle.

    But in this day in age, does it not seem a little bit late in the game for denialism?

    And while I'm here, why is there such an overlap between climate denialism and light racism? I don't get the connection at all but for some reason, the types of people who deny climate change are the same types who defend and downplay people like Tommy Robinson and Stefan Molineaux.

    Seriously, what's the connection? Am I missing something? Or is it simply the case that stupid people are drawn to stupid ideas in the same way that moon-landing denialists and anti-vaxers are?

    I would assume that they are getting all oftheir news from a single biased source.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Not sure if shes right but definitely some refreshing balance to grifter thunberg.

    Yes, because scientific consensus always needs to be balanced by bull****. I mean, I like knowing that the earth is round but maybe I would be better off informing myself from flat earther theories. Would that give me a more well-rounded, pardon the pun, education or would I get closer to the levels of stupidity seen in flat-earthers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    I’d love to see a live debate between herself and Greta.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    Boggles wrote: »
    Rage posting from your mothers spare bedroom is not a job, you do know that right?

    ;)

    Says the guy with over 23,000 posts who posts every few seconds and uses buzz words like rage posting whatever the hell that means.

    Like I said their is a life outside of boards.ie lad. Really is. Shock horror this ain't the real world like!.

    Anyway.

    I strongly suggest looking up what Psychological projection is.

    Your projecting so much we should call you the cinema screen. ;)

    Psychological projection is a defense mechanism people subconsciously employ in order to cope with difficult feelings or emotions. Psychological projection involves projecting undesirable feelings or emotions onto someone else, rather than admitting to or dealing with the unwanted feelings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    You'll see feck on debate on it as sadly the Thunberg worship/brainwashing is strong on this site. Criticise her and watch the vultures circle!. ;)

    Lol, have a look at the Greta thread. It's about 90% people who are anti-Thunberg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    dan1895 wrote: »
    I would assume that they are getting all oftheir news from a single biased source.

    If not from the same source, they're definitely drinking from the same stinky pools of knowledge. I'm sure targeting by social media doesn't help either. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a "stupid people" category when you want to advertise. They might call it something more PC but I would be surprised if such categories don't exist - how else am I supposed to target my ads for MLMs, chlorine autism cures, healing crystals, flat earth text books, vaginal eggs and such nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,352 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Says the guy with over 23,000 posts who posts every few seconds and uses buzz words like rage posting whatever the hell that means.

    Like I said their is a life outside of boards.ie lad. Really is. Shock horror this ain't the real world like!.

    Anyway.

    I strongly suggest looking up what Psychological projection is.

    Your projecting so much we should call you the cinema screen. ;)

    Psychological projection is a defense mechanism people subconsciously employ in order to cope with difficult feelings or emotions. Psychological projection involves projecting undesirable feelings or emotions onto someone else, rather than admitting to or dealing with the unwanted feelings.

    Thought you said you were now busy in work and couldn't contribute? :pac:

    Will you go downstairs and make your long suffering mother a nice cup of tea and stop ranting and raving about things you clearly have no understanding of.


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