Priti Patel - workplace bully?

gmisk

Christ I thought the comments about basically starving out Ireland over brexit were bad...now seems to be a horrendous bully can't say I am surprised, seems like a truly horrible person.
Still doubt she will be forced out.

suicide_circus

you would though

Eric Cartman

Her very presence exposes so many racists on the left who only use migrants and people of colour as pawns to further their own agenda.

Silentcorner

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Her very presence exposes so many racists on the left who only use migrants and people of colour as pawns to further their own agenda.

The left in the UK (and the US for that matter) are drenched in Identity Politics...they are getting bogged down in what to call people with penises.

I'm not even kidding.

Politics in the UK is starting to get bumpy, it is probably necessary.

tuxy

gmisk wrote: »

Christ I thought the comments about basically starving out Ireland over brexit were bad...now seems to be a horrendous bully can't say I am surprised, seems like a truly horrible person.
Still doubt she will be forced out.

Well her secret meetings with the government of Israel in 2017 didn't stop her getting a cabinet position position in 2019

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gmisk wrote: »

Christ I thought the comments about basically starving out Ireland over brexit were bad...now seems to be a horrendous bully can't say I am surprised, seems like a truly horrible person.
Still doubt she will be forced out.

What are you on about? Link?

Suckit

Heavenly Angry Grapefruit wrote: »

What are you on about? Link?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51687287

Guy:Incognito

suicide_circus wrote: »

you would though

I was all aboard the " what a cvnt but I definitely would" train till the other day someone put a load of pictures on twitter of her standing beside actual full sized humans and shes bloody tiny. Not sure if it was the particular pictures but she looked oddly disproportionately tiny.

AllForIt

This is noting more than a extension of remainers continuing their dissatisfaction with Brexit.

I read on the Brexit politics forum someone say that 'she's really horrible'. By what evidence could anyone legit-ably say that. Her TV appearances? Or do they have some inside information? Hardly.

She absolutely has made some gaffs, but this evil-izing of her is I think way OTT and as I said an extension of some ppl being completely against a Brexit government. Even when it's going to happen. Pathetic loosers imo.

Boris has been evil-ized, Cummings ( what an act, fair play), Mogg is way too posh, and all of that type of nonsense.

Patel is obviously of Indian heritage. If I were Cumming I would turn this around to racial hatred. Because that's the kind of underhand games remainers are playing.

Guy:Incognito

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Her very presence exposes so many racists on the left who only use migrants and people of colour as pawns to further their own agenda.

Funny how everyone is just racist or mysognistic when the right need a way to deflect from the likes of Patel being a clearly dislikable and doing things to **** all over the easily attacked members of society.

Yet when neither of those things can be used, like when people say the same things about Reese-Mogg, it's just ignored.


Maybe people aren't being racist and instead they just dont like people being cvnts to others.

Guy:Incognito

AllForIt wrote: »

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Patel is obviously of Indian heritage. If I were Cumming I would turn this around to racial hatred. Because that's the kind of underhand games remainers are playing.

"The peasants are revolting, quick, let's ignore all the white men the dont like and focus one the ethnic woman they also dont like and cry racism to deflect" :rolleyes:

dxhound2005

A lot will depend on how quickly his claim can be processed by whatever sort of body deals with such claims. I don't know if it is the law courts or something else. If their decision is quick and damning, she might have to go, even with Boris being so dismissive of the normal way of doing things. She lost a previous position, because she broke the rules in another area.

I am making this statement now because I will be issuing a claim against the Home Office for constructive dismissal.

jam_mac_jam

What has her race got to do with anything. If she bullies someone it should be investigated.

Leave her alone because she is of Indian decent?

Galwayguy35

She got demoted before because of her meeting with the Israelies, was surprised Johnson gave her a second chance.

macwal

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I was all aboard the " what a cvnt but I definitely would" train till the other day someone put a load of pictures on twitter of her standing beside actual full sized humans and shes bloody tiny. Not sure if it was the particular pictures but she looked oddly disproportionately tiny.

Maybe she was just standing far away...

tuxy

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

She got demoted before because of her meeting with the Israelies, was surprised Johnson gave her a second chance.

She was the home secretary that was needed to keep the xenophobic voters happy.

Michelinextra.

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

She got demoted before because of her meeting with the Israelies, was surprised Johnson gave her a second chance.

Rainbow Cabinet

It's like man u used to always have a couple of Paddy's on the team

AllForIt

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Funny how everyone is just racist or mysognistic when the right need a way to deflect from the likes of Patel being a clearly dislikable and doing things to **** all over the easily attacked members of society.

Yet when neither of those things can be used, like when people say the same things about Reese-Mogg, it's just ignored.


Maybe people aren't being racist and instead they just dont like people being cvnts to others.

Clearly dislikable? Isn't that just subjective. Just like Thatcher was 'a horrible b**ch', but was adored by others.

If you have some inside information on this I'm all ears.

jimgoose

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I was all aboard the " what a cvnt but I definitely would" train till the other day someone put a load of pictures on twitter of her standing beside actual full sized humans and shes bloody tiny. Not sure if it was the particular pictures but she looked oddly disproportionately tiny.

I think she's 5'6'', decent enough height for a woman of her seed and vintage? She certainly is beautiful, but I would say a very flawed person. :pac:

jimgoose

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

What has her race got to do with anything. If she bullies someone it should be investigated.

Leave her alone because she is of Indian decent?

It's possible that she has some sort of weird, post-colonial mindset that Orwell would probably have seen in Burma back in the day, where the natives don the uniform of the oppressor and go "Look! I'm as good as you, I can be horrible to brown people too!!" :pac:

biko

She is POC and woman, check your privileges in this thread.

partyguinness

AllForIt wrote: »

Patel is obviously of Indian heritage. If I were Cumming I would turn this around to racial hatred. Because that's the kind of underhand games remainers are playing.

Right, so all the complaints about her from different people going back several years in different departments about being a two faced lying cow is some mad Remainer conspiracy. Okay then.

She is a nasty piece of work.

partyguinness

jimgoose wrote: »

It's possible that she has some sort of weird, post-colonial mindset that Orwell would probably have seen in Burma back in the day, where the natives don the uniform of the oppressor and go "Look! I'm as good as you, I can be horrible to brown people too!!" :pac:

It's basically trying to be more Roman than the Romans. The worst kind.


She worked and lobbied on behalf of the tobacco industry for years. Says it all really.

partyguinness

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

She got demoted before because of her meeting with the Israelies, was surprised Johnson gave her a second chance.

BJ wants to a cabinet of loyal puppy dogs to do his nasty work- she fits the bill perfectly.

jimgoose

biko wrote: »

She is POC and woman, check your privileges in this thread.

Whatever about my "privileges", she's definitely a quare class of a hawkl. :pac:

Diceicle

I wish we had someone of her character (and Cummings) in our Cabinet (and Civil Service).
She's great.
Even the subtle way she uses the term 'police force' rather than 'police service' - gives an indication that the softly softly approach is out the window.

partyguinness

Diceicle wrote: »

I wish we had someone of her character (and Cummings) in our Cabinet (and Civil Service).
She's great.
Even the subtle way she uses the term 'police force' rather than 'police service' - gives an indication that the softly softly approach is out the window.

What has she achieved to make her so great in your mind?

Politicians come and go. She will be back in the back benches before Christmas and Cummings will be back superblogging in his urine stained tracksuits bottoms before long.

The way she has gone about her business is all wrong and shows a remarkable degree of naivety- basically pissing off everyone she needs to help bring in policy like a bull in a china shop.

Rutnam came out and called her a straight up liar and he has been in the game a lot longer than Patel.

Tony EH

AllForIt wrote: »

Clearly dislikable? Isn't that just subjective. Just like Thatcher was 'a horrible b**ch', but was adored by others.

Cunts tend to like other cunts.

I suppose that's why some people like Priti Patel too.

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splinter65

Tony EH wrote: »

Cunts tend to like other cunts.

I suppose that's why some people like Priti Patel too.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Why do you describe her as a ****?

Tony EH

splinter65 wrote: »

Why do you describe her as a ****?

Because that's how she comes across. Very dislikable from what I've seen of her.

Or do you mean Thatcher? :pac:

splinter65

Tony EH wrote: »

Because that's how she comes across. Very dislikable from what I've seen of her.

Or do you mean Thatcher? :pac:

You mean she’s not interested in pussy footing around people who aren’t doing the job they’re highly paid to do so she’s a ****?

tuxy

Was she joking about starving Ireland?
She's an intelligent woman, she knew Ireland was a large net exporter of food all along?

Michelinextra.

jimgoose wrote: »

It's possible that she has some sort of weird, post-colonial mindset that Orwell would probably have seen in Burma back in the day, where the natives don the uniform of the oppressor and go "Look! I'm as good as you, I can be horrible to brown people too!!" :pac:

I notice this with a lot of Indians

They seem to want to be more English than the English themselves

It's like a Stockholm Syndrome

Raconteuse

Yeah it's a recognised thing. My English friend's grandmother is Indian and extremely "Rule Britannia".

tuxy

Raconteuse wrote: »

Yeah it's a recognised thing. My English friend's grandmother is Indian and extremely "Rule Britannia".

Well the colonial past Britain had over India would have been the glory days for their ancestors.

AllForIt

partyguinness wrote: »

Right, so all the complaints about her from different people going back several years in different departments about being a two faced lying cow is some mad Remainer conspiracy. Okay then.

She is a nasty piece of work.

Just doesn't sound plausible to me.

*a two faced lying cow*. Hmm. Who talks like that about any man.

I am not in any way condoning 'bullying', bully's are no doubt low life cu*ts. But it seems to me when a woman is robust, in the same way men are, that their personal character is vilified in a way a mans isn't. I've already alluded to that point in relation to Thatcher.

And even if it were true what you say, that it has been going on for years - why is it all coming out now? All looks suspicious to me. Brexit isn't really done yet until a trade deal is reached.

Whatever the truth, it is completely improper that a senior civil servant issues televised press statements as if he were a politician. It's a private affair and it seems to me he made this statement to cause maximum damage to the government before any court case has even begun. I smell a remainer rat in all this and I trust my instincts.


edit: when you hear commentators say that Boris announced his wife's pregnancy 'in a timely manner to bury this story', which is utter nonsense as it won't do that since it's ongoing - you just know the knives are out.

dxhound2005

The phenomenon of "more Irish that the Irish themselves" is well known. The second and third generation South Asians in cities in the north of England, are some of the most vociferous against East Europeans arriving in their midst.

partyguinness

dxhound2005 wrote: »

The phenomenon of "more Irish that the Irish themselves" is well known. The second and third generation South Asians in cities in the north of England, are some of the most vociferous against East Europeans arriving in their midst.

because the south east Asians do a lot of the **** menial and 'gig economy' jobs and now Eastern Europeans are taking them. That is the perception anyway.

partyguinness

AllForIt wrote: »

Just doesn't sound plausible to me.

*a two faced lying cow*. Hmm. Who talks like that about any man.

I am not in any way condoning 'bullying', bully's are no doubt low life cu*ts. But it seems to me when a woman is robust, in the same way men are, that their personal character is vilified in a way a mans isn't. I've already alluded to that point in relation to Thatcher.

And even if it were true what you say, that it has been going on for years - why is it all coming out now? All looks suspicious to me. Brexit isn't really done yet until a trade deal is reached.

Whatever the truth, it is completely improper that a senior civil servant issues televised press statements as if he were a politician. It's a private affair and it seems to me he made this statement to cause maximum damage to the government before any court case has even begun. I smell a remainer rat in all this and I trust my instincts.


edit: when you hear commentators say that Boris announced his wife's pregnancy 'in a timely manner to bury this story', which is utter nonsense as it won't do that since it's ongoing - you just know the knives are out.

I'm sorry but you lose all credibility with this rubbish.

BJ, Gove et all are al lying two faced self serving cows. There you go.

partyguinness

AllForIt wrote: »

Clearly dislikable? Isn't that just subjective. Just like Thatcher was 'a horrible b**ch', but was adored by others.

If you have some inside information on this I'm all ears.

Whatever you say about Thatcher, there is no record of her bullying staff.

ChippingSodbury

AllForIt wrote: »

Just doesn't sound plausible to me.

*a two faced lying cow*. Hmm. Who talks like that about any man.

I am not in any way condoning 'bullying', bully's are no doubt low life cu*ts. But it seems to me when a woman is robust, in the same way men are, that their personal character is vilified in a way a mans isn't. I've already alluded to that point in relation to Thatcher.

And even if it were true what you say, that it has been going on for years - why is it all coming out now? All looks suspicious to me. Brexit isn't really done yet until a trade deal is reached.

Whatever the truth, it is completely improper that a senior civil servant issues televised press statements as if he were a politician. It's a private affair and it seems to me he made this statement to cause maximum damage to the government before any court case has even begun. I smell a remainer rat in all this and I trust my instincts.


edit: when you hear commentators say that Boris announced his wife's pregnancy 'in a timely manner to bury this story', which is utter nonsense as it won't do that since it's ongoing - you just know the knives are out.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51705069

The staff member also alleges she was told the decision to dismiss her a year later was not made on performance grounds but because Ms Patel did not "like [her] face", according to comments attributed to her line manager and a colleague.

On that day in October 2015, Ms Patel had shouted at the woman in her private office and told her to "get lost" and "get out of her face", the correspondence alleges.

Ms Patel is described as having acted "without warning" and with an "unprovoked level of aggression", in the woman's formal grievance complaint.

This was settled for £25k rather than go to Tribunal.

Regarding Sir Philip Rutnam:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51688261?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/c4e71xw4dkzt/home-office&link_location=live-reporting-story

I think you'll find he wasn't a Civil Servant at the time of the Press Conference as he had already resigned. It's also telling that he turned down a settlement offer in favour of going to Tribunal

The incidents that are in the public domain about her behaviour all seem to point in the same direction. To me, the most disturbing one is her unsanctioned meetings in Israel. The Foreign Office (over there and here and I'm sure everywhere else in the world) are extremely careful about how they conduct their business because the reputation of the country is at stake. Her behaviour (and explanation) of these meetings really give off the impression of "those guidelines don't apply to me...."

Tony EH

partyguinness wrote: »

Whatever you say about Thatcher, there is no record of her bullying staff.

That's because she surrounded herself with yes men and anyone who disagreed with her were "wets" and ousted. Her "management style" was very much do as I say and it was her eventual downfall in the end.

Her 'Spitting Image' representation was pretty close in many respects.

Raconteuse

tuxy wrote: »

Well the colonial past Britain had over India would have been the glory days for their ancestors.

Ah th'auld famine and slavery and beatings and murder days.

jimgoose

tuxy wrote: »

Well the colonial past Britain had over India would have been the glory days for their ancestors.

An' for all 'is dirty 'ide
⁠'E was white, clear white, inside
⁠When 'e went to tend the wounded under fire!
⁠It was "Din! Din! Din!"
⁠With the bullets kickin' dust-spots on the green.
⁠When the cartridges ran out,
⁠You could hear the front-files shout,
⁠"Hi! ammunition-mules an' Gunga Din!"

banie01

partyguinness wrote: »

I'm sorry but you lose all credibility with this rubbish.

BJ, Gove et all are al lying two faced self serving cows. There you go.

Agreed.

Casting calling someone being a prick a "cow" as being patriarchal generally diminishes the time I'd give over to listening to a point.

Generally I refer to double dealing males as 2 faced lying bastàrds, or indeed any other slander as to their lineage and indeed lack of it that springs to mind!
Is it more? Or less offensive to use that term towards females partaking in similar behaviour?

Should we now be gender neutral in our efforts to share our opinions of assholes?
Is there a gender neutral term for asshole?
Or does it fit every occasion?

Balf

tuxy wrote: »

Was she joking about starving Ireland?
She's an intelligent woman, she knew Ireland was a large net exporter of food all along?

Well, no. She was just well briefed, and understood the situation more than most Irish people.

Ireland has been net importer of food since 2000, UN data reveals

Will there be food shortages if there is a hard Brexit?

James Brown

She's a Hopkins/Morgan type looking to get a higher profile. It's sad but these people flourish in these anti-anti times, by which I mean the right wing fight back against equality and humanitarianism. Worked for Johnson/Trump/Farage etc..

Michelinextra.

Bowie wrote: »

She's a Hopkins/Morgan type looking to get a higher profile. It's sad but these people flourish in these anti-anti times, by which I mean the right wing fight back against equality and humanitarianism. Worked for Johnson/Trump/Farage etc..

What's a hopkins morgan type

James Brown

Michelinextra. wrote: »

What's a hopkins morgan type

An arsehole using ignorance and hate to sh*t on others for attention to raise their profile.

Michelinextra.

Bowie wrote: »

An arsehole using ignorance and hate to sh*t on others for attention to raise their profile.

Ok thanks for the definition

AllForIt

partyguinness wrote: »

I'm sorry but you lose all credibility with this rubbish.

BJ, Gove et all are al lying two faced self serving cows. There you go.

And I'm loosing credibility lol