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Feel bit ... put out ..

  • 29-02-2020 8:45pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭


    My sister has our folks over to her house .. I’m divorced and live nearby , with a teenage son.

    She is having dinner with them , she texted me to see if I wanted to drop up , very nice , as im leaving one job retiring , starting new job Monday , suppose that’s a lot of the reason .. just to wish me well... I’m delighted , very nice thought ....

    This is the thing ... I said thanks , delighted when asked .... I asked would I bring son along , answer , of course ,she mentioned what’s for dinner 🥘 ðŸ™႒, I just happened to mention son doesn’t like it . Maybe something handy , small , instead , not wanting to put her out , she says , well if he doesn’t like it , she can’t give him one thing and her own the dinner planned .... thought ok , fair enough , was very decent , to ask us , then she says , sure if he doesn’t eat it ( as he won’t ) you can get him a chicken roll on the way home ..

    I just feel if the shoe was on the other foot , and I knew one of her kids didn’t like what I was cooking , I think I would probably cook something they did like? Rather than the “ chicken roll” suggestion ....

    Overthinking it I know , wondered what people thought ...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭zapper55


    I think it was ungrateful to mention your son didnt like that particular dinner. Either feed him first or don't bring him.

    She's already hosting your parents, she invites you for dinner and you are put out she doesnt make a different meal for your son? That is not reasonable. Her chicken roll comment was restrained of her.

    Do you think you overly spoil your son?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    I was going to ask what age your son was and then re-read your post.

    Oh my gosh she was totally right. Would you stop, people can't be making a million different dinners for everyone who just doesn't like something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    You are out of order OP. It's not a Restaurant.

    I had something similar happen and person was told in no uncertain terms to f o. I was livid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    She probably should already know he doesn't..,

    I hate and am afraid of butter..... Yes yes punisher is afraid of something ;-)


    I don't see it been as been bad but look I'm sure he could have a sandwich or something while there....

    Wouldn't say any more about it though....

    I've 3 sisters and can't win....

    Funny thing is she may actually have something on that he will eat.... Even if it's a bread roll....

    Don't be stressing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    zapper55 wrote: »
    I think it was ungrateful to mention your son didnt like that particular dinner. Either feed him first or don't bring him.

    She's already hosting your parents, she invites you for dinner and you are put out she doesnt make a different meal for your son? That is not reasonable. Her chicken roll comment was restrained of her.

    Do you think you overly spoil your son?

    Yes perhaps your right I might overly spoil him a bit ...chicken roll comment ... restrained .. good to know ... recently divorced , so probably trying a bit too hard .. re son. Your right . Thanks .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    amdublin wrote: »
    I was going to ask what age your son was and then re-read your post.

    Oh my gosh she was totally right. Would you stop, people can't be making a million different dinners for everyone who just doesn't like something.

    Thank you. I just said he doesn’t like the meat , I didn’t mean to be ungrateful. Bit annoyed with myself now. Will bring nice vino for her ....now ! Thanks.

    I just simply thought If I was told that say , one of her kids didn’t like what I was cooking .. for me I’d stick something else on .for that kid .. not a problem , but certainly I take your point , thanks .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Thank you. I just said he doesn’t like the meat , I didn’t mean to be ungrateful. Bit annoyed with myself now. Will bring nice vino for her ....now ! Thanks.

    I just simply thought If I was told that say , one of her kids didn’t like what I was cooking .. for me I’d stick something else on .for that kid .. not a problem , but certainly I take your point , thanks .

    Ah fair play to you. You seem to take honest feedback well. Lookit, it's life sh1t happens, no one is perfect, nice bottle is a great idea!

    Enjoy the evening. Good luck with the new job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    amdublin wrote: »
    Ah fair play to you. You seem to take honest feedback well. Lookit, it's life sh1t happens, no one is perfect, nice bottle is a great idea!

    Enjoy the evening. Good luck with the new job.

    Ah so nice thanks ... I will also apologise to her as well .. just wasn’t thinking properly ... everyday is a school day !!!! That’s why I love boards .. great to put things in perspective ..thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Ah so nice thanks ... I will also apologise to her as well .. just wasn’t thinking properly ... everyday is a school day !!!! That’s why I love boards .. great to put things in perspective ..thank you

    A quick apology! And on with a nice evening.

    It's true. We are all just learning and muddling through as best we can eh!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    I'm going to be different :)

    Personally I would have no issue if my sister told me my niece/nephew wouldn't eat what I was serving.

    I would feel absolutely awful if anyone at my dinner table went hungry. I'd be embarrassed if I put a plate in front of someone not realising they wouldn't eat it. (I'd end up missing my dinner while cooking something else for the guest)

    I personally would prefer advance warning if people don't like what is being served.

    While I get the reluctance to serve something else due to her own children then refusing to eat the main dinner. I would find the chicken roll comment very passive aggressive.

    Anyway I hope you enjoyed your meal :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    I'm going to be different :)

    Personally I would have no issue if my sister told me my niece/nephew wouldn't eat what I was serving.

    I would feel absolutely awful if anyone at my dinner table went hungry. I'd be embarrassed if I put a plate in front of someone not realising they wouldn't eat it. (I'd end up missing my dinner while cooking something else for the guest)

    I personally would prefer advance warning if people don't like what is being served.

    While I get the reluctance to serve something else due to her own children then refusing to eat the main dinner. I would find the chicken roll comment very passive aggressive.

    Anyway I hope you enjoyed your meal :)

    Hmm... I don't know. There is being a good host, and there is being...a doormat.

    Seriously. A teenage boy who wouldn't eat literally anything on the plate?? I think if the aunt doesn't want to pander to him then she was right. Like, it is not actually a bad suggestion, he could get a chicken roll on the way home. Chances are he would like that more!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭ToddDameron


    Love my nieces and nephews to bits. If they want something different and are polite about it I'll make it for them. It's only food amongst family. Some people here have little to be worrying about.

    Would be more worried about supporting my divorced sibling and his kid, letting them know the family is there for them, than being stubborn about stupid food. You're going through a lot of life changes and she's nit picking about trivial ****e, I'd be put out too OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    amdublin wrote: »
    Hmm... I don't know. There is being a good host, and there is being...a doormat.

    Seriously. A teenage boy who wouldn't eat literally anything on the plate?? I think if the aunt doesn't want to pander to him then she was right. Like, it is not actually a bad suggestion, he could get a chicken roll on the way home. Chances are he would like that more!

    Are you inviting someone to dinner to feed them or for them to watch you eat?

    There's plenty of grown adults that don't eat certain foods.

    I don't understand why you would invite someone to dinner and then serve food you know they won't eat.... Then tell them sure you can pick up food on the way home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Are you inviting someone to dinner to feed them or for them to watch you eat?

    There's plenty of grown adults that don't eat certain foods.

    I don't understand why you would invite someone to dinner and then serve food you know they won't eat.... Then tell them sure you can pick up food on the way home.

    Well that is not really what happened in this instance at all. His sister is doing dinner for the parents and invited her brother. He said will I bring the boy along and she said of course. Then mentioning what she was making.

    Very different from inviting someone for dinner and then going out of her way to cook something they don't eat.

    What if she planned her fridge around making X and it suits 90% of the table. You would expect the guest who doesn't like X, to be a good guest, not make a fuss and eat everything else on the plate.

    Don't get me wrong. I get what you are saying. Of course you don't want this to happen. But it's happened. Said teenage boy will have to pull his big boy pants on and deal with it (and hey! maybe get a chicken roll on the way home if he is still hungry).

    I'm not arguing with you, but good prep for other occasions for the young man not to be pandered to on this occasion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    My sister has our folks over to her house .. I’m divorced and live nearby , with a teenage son.

    She is having dinner with them , she texted me to see if I wanted to drop up , very nice , as im leaving one job retiring , starting new job Monday , suppose that’s a lot of the reason .. just to wish me well... I’m delighted , very nice thought ....

    This is the thing ... I said thanks , delighted when asked .... I asked would I bring son along , answer , of course ,she mentioned what’s for dinner 🥘 ðŸ™႒, I just happened to mention son doesn’t like it . Maybe something handy , small , instead , not wanting to put her out , she says , well if he doesn’t like it , she can’t give him one thing and her own the dinner planned .... thought ok , fair enough , was very decent , to ask us , then she says , sure if he doesn’t eat it ( as he won’t ) you can get him a chicken roll on the way home ..

    I just feel if the shoe was on the other foot , and I knew one of her kids didn’t like what I was cooking , I think I would probably cook something they did like? Rather than the “ chicken roll” suggestion ....

    Overthinking it I know , wondered what people thought ...

    Your sister kindly invited you and your teenager to dinner at her house to congratulate you on your new job. You asked her if she could cook something extra for your little darling because he wouldn’t eat what she is intending to serve.
    She declined your suggestion and you’re a bit miffed.
    I think it’s astonishing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    amdublin wrote: »
    Well that is not really what happened in this instance at all. His sister is doing dinner for the parents and invited her brother. He said will I bring the boy along and she said of course. Then mentioning what she was making.

    Very different from inviting someone for dinner and then going out of her way to cook something they don't eat.

    What if she planned her fridge around making X and it suits 90% of the table. You would expect the guest who doesn't like X, to be a good guest, not make a fuss and eat everything else on the plate.

    Don't get me wrong. I get what you are saying. Of course you don't want this to happen. But it's happened. Said teenage boy will have to pull his big boy pants on and deal with it (and hey! maybe get a chicken roll on the way home if he is still hungry).

    I'm not arguing with you, but good prep for other occasions for the young man not to be pandered to on this occasion

    I get what you're saying and I get where the sister is coming from.

    However I've been that guest with the one roast potato on my plate and it's absolutely awful. Trying to make that one potato last the duration of a dinner, when everyone else's plates were overflowing. (yes they knew I didn't eat anything they were serving, they forgot.. Gotta love in-laws :))

    The majority of people have chicken goujons or something in the freezer 12 mins on a baking tray is hardly a massive effort.

    I don't see the issue in the op flagging that the child wouldn't eat it. No point in wasting good food either, just so he has something to push around his plate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭radiotrickster


    I don't see the issue in the op flagging that the child wouldn't eat it. No point in wasting good food either, just so he has something to push around his plate.

    I’m gonna agree here. My partner has a couple of nephews who have always been spoiled in every sense of the word and won’t eat a lot. Their parents say they have a special diet to people outside the family but they’re just picky eaters and have never been pushed to try something new.

    As much as my partner and I both disagree with it and think that as teenagers they should be trying regular food at this stage (never tried rice, chips, pasta, pizza, any sort of meat!), we know that if they come over then they’ll be getting something specific, regardless of what dinner is being made.

    It just keeps the peace, if anything. No point inviting them and giving them something we know they’ll cause a fuss about (and cause an argument with the parents).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    I'm going to be different :)

    Personally I would have no issue if my sister told me my niece/nephew wouldn't eat what I was serving.

    I would feel absolutely awful if anyone at my dinner table went hungry. I'd be embarrassed if I put a plate in front of someone not realising they wouldn't eat it. (I'd end up missing my dinner while cooking something else for the guest)

    I personally would prefer advance warning if people don't like what is being served.

    While I get the reluctance to serve something else due to her own children then refusing to eat the main dinner. I would find the chicken roll comment very passive aggressive.

    Anyway I hope you enjoyed your meal :)

    Agree with this indeed. Thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    amdublin wrote: »
    Hmm... I don't know. There is being a good host, and there is being...a doormat.

    Seriously. A teenage boy who wouldn't eat literally anything on the plate?? I think if the aunt doesn't want to pander to him then she was right. Like, it is not actually a bad suggestion, he could get a chicken roll on the way home. Chances are he would like that more!

    As it happens have a nice stew cooked today before the invite came!!! Will be having a bit myself not a fan of the main course either !!!! Was just coming from my own view that I personally would prefer to cook something different if I was aware if the shoe was on the other foot , that’s all . Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Your sister kindly invited you and your teenager to dinner at her house to congratulate you on your new job. You asked her if she could cook something extra for your little darling because he wouldn’t eat what she is intending to serve.
    She declined your suggestion and you’re a bit miffed.
    I think it’s astonishing.

    Good to know , thank you indeed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭qwerty13


    Thing is though, you weren’t invited for the original dinner plans. You were as if you’d like to drop in. So the implication with that is that you’re fitting in with plans that were already made. Then you changed that by inviting your son, and your sister was ok with that. Then you said that he didn’t like the food being made. I’m afraid that does (to me anyway) come across as very very cheeky.

    It would be slightly different if the invite included you and your son from the start. But really, unless they were serving something seriously out there, or he has food allergies, then there’s no good or polite reason to put your sister to extra work (and possibly extra shopping). He can surely eat some stuff on his plate, and just leave what he doesn’t like - as we’d all do if invited to someone else’s home and they didn’t cook things that I like.

    I hope the night went well though, and that your apology to your sister smoothed things over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    qwerty13 wrote: »
    Thing is though, you weren’t invited for the original dinner plans. You were as if you’d like to drop in. So the implication with that is that you’re fitting in with plans that were already made. Then you changed that by inviting your son, and your sister was ok with that. Then you said that he didn’t like the food being made. I’m afraid that does (to me anyway) come across as very very cheeky.

    It would be slightly different if the invite included you and your son from the start. But really, unless they were serving something seriously out there, or he has food allergies, then there’s no good or polite reason to put your sister to extra work (and possibly extra shopping). He can surely eat some stuff on his plate, and just leave what he doesn’t like - as we’d all do if invited to someone else’s home and they didn’t cook things that I like.


    100 per cent correct , thanks indeed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭qwerty13


    I presume it was all only a temporary storm in a teacup anyway OP. And I hope all is ok now, and that it was a good night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    she says , well if he doesn’t like it , she can’t give him one thing and her own the dinner planned ....

    I think this is the important part. She doesn't want to show her own kids that if they don't like a dinner that she will cook something else for them. She'll end up cooking a few different types of dinner a day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭qwerty13


    An idea OP, and maybe this is a bit out there, but does your son know how to cook?

    I’ve found with teenagers (early teens - or even when they’re younger still) that if they’re involved with cooking, they get a better appreciation that meals don’t just ‘arrive’, it takes effort. And sometimes they get more into trying different foods if they’ve been involved with cooking. Or you could go mad and get him to pick a recipe and you cook it together and both eat it no matter what it turns out like!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭Dog day


    For what it’s worth OP I don’t think your request was remotely unreasonable, as long as the request was delivered politely I’d see no issue with it whatsoever. Your Sister made a big deal of a minor ask & I think the chicken roll suggestion was rude in the extreme! I entirely disagree with the suggestion that simply stating your son doesn’t like something is ‘pandering’ to him.

    To be honest I’m pretty surprised at some of the responses here! When I’m hosting it’s important to me that all guests enjoy the experience & I’d appreciate being told about my guests preferences.

    Equally your Sister made a big deal of something minor at a time of readjustment for yourself & your son. I wouldn’t however think it’s worth having harsh words over, just chalk it down to ‘one of those things’!

    As an aside....good luck with the new job :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    qwerty13 wrote: »
    I presume it was all only a temporary storm in a teacup anyway OP. And I hope all is ok now, and that it was a good night.

    Ah it’s today actually. I texted her last night lol telling her on reflection it was quite wrong to suggest she cook something else for my son.
    I had quite a check suggesting it....

    Delighted I seeked advice here , brilliant ... looking forward to it this evening !!!

    In the end of the day , it was nothing all sorted ...
    I was a bit miffed , but no right to be ...

    Appreciate all the advice !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    Dog day wrote: »
    For what it’s worth OP I don’t think your request was remotely unreasonable, as long as the request was delivered politely I’d see no issue with it whatsoever. Your Sister made a big deal of a minor ask & I think the chicken roll suggestion was rude in the extreme! I entirely disagree with the suggestion that simply stating your son doesn’t like something is ‘pandering’ to him. To be honest I’m pretty surprised at some of the responses here! When I’m hosting it’s important to me that all guests enjoy the experience & I’d appreciate being told about my guests preferences. Equally your Sister made a big deal of something minor at a time of readjustment for yourself & your son. I wouldn’t however think it’s worth having harsh words over, just chalk it down to ‘one of those things’! As an aside....good luck with the new job :)

    You obviously read the post’s throughout, and thanks , I would tend to be in agreement with you , however she didn’t have to invite us up and she did. I think that was nice ... thanks ... all well , now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭Dog day


    Ah it’s today actually. I texted her last night lol telling her on rejection it was quite wrong to suggest she cook something else for my son.
    I had quite a check suggesting it....

    Delighted I seeked advice here , brilliant ... looking forward to it this evening !!!

    In the end of the day , it was nothing all sorted ...
    I was a bit miffed , but no right to be ...

    Appreciate all the advice !

    ‘Feelings are neither right nor wrong’ OP! I’d be miffed too! Hope you enjoy the evening anyway, in life I’m sure you’ll have bigger fish to fry (pardon the pun!)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    Dog day wrote: »
    ‘Feelings are neither right nor wrong’ OP! I’d be miffed too! Hope you enjoy the evening anyway, in life I’m sure you’ll have bigger fish to fry (pardon the pun!)

    Sure , spot on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭qwerty13


    You obviously read the post’s throughout, and thanks , I would tend to be in agreement with you , however she didn’t have to invite us up and she did. I think that was nice ... thanks ... all well , now.

    Hhmm now, I don’t think it’s a case of others not reading your posts thoroughly. They - and I - just don’t agree with you.

    Look there’ll always be people who parent differently. I happen to agree with your sister, and it is her house. And you weren’t in the original invite, and you invited your son along - so the onus is on you to fit in. In my book anyway. Just because people disagree with you does not mean that they haven’t fully read or understood your posts though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    qwerty13 wrote: »
    Hhmm now, I don’t think it’s a case of others not reading your posts thoroughly. They - and I - just don’t agree with you.

    Look there’ll always be people who parent differently. I happen to agree with your sister, and it is her house. And you weren’t in the original invite, and you invited your son along - so the onus is on you to fit in. In my book anyway. Just because people disagree with you does not mean that they haven’t fully read or understood your posts though.

    I don’t know where that’s coming from I was simply complimenting the writer as indeed all have contributors , have read all the posts and commented intelligently...

    I am finished now with post and appreciate all replies .... as a btw whether my son can cook or not is not an issue. He cooks all the time!!
    Just doesn’t like the meat cooked as indeed I am not a big fan but will nibble at it !!!

    Nothing more to it than that .thanks all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭qwerty13


    The point on cooking was just a suggestion, because in my experience some kids seem to think that they can express a very strong preference, with no account taken of the effort that it takes to put a meal on plates for a family. Let alone 2 different meals.

    In my experience, having kids involved in cooking / recipe choices generally leads to less ‘oh I don’t want that’ and more appreciation of the effort involved, and less unreasonable expectations of not wanting to eat what everyone else is having. And honestly, it’s a ‘growing up’ lesson too.

    Cooking together can also be quite bonding, which is another reason why I suggested it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    qwerty13 wrote: »
    Hhmm now, I don’t think it’s a case of others not reading your posts thoroughly. They - and I - just don’t agree with you.

    Look there’ll always be people who parent differently. I happen to agree with your sister, and it is her house. And you weren’t in the original invite, and you invited your son along - so the onus is on you to fit in. In my book anyway. Just because people disagree with you does not mean that they haven’t fully read or understood your posts though.

    Infairness the son is a teenager, the parents are divorced, so the dad probably only sees the son at weekends. The invite should automatically include the son.

    While it's true the op was invited into existing plans, it's not like he just turned up at her house at 4 and was then invited to dinner at 6 as he was in the house anyway.

    The sister has over 24 hrs notice that what she's serving doesn't suit everyone. I really don't see why you wouldn't say well everyone will eat x so I'll serve that instead. Then there's no cooking different dishes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭qwerty13


    I do my shopping once a week, and mostly my meal plans involve whatever special offers are on, or a meal than I can incorporate into batch cooking. I also work anti-social hours every 3 weeks. So for me, having to change what I was planning to serve would be a financial and possible time hassle


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme



    The sister has over 24 hrs notice that what she's serving doesn't suit everyone. I really don't see why you wouldn't say well everyone will eat x so I'll serve that instead. Then there's no cooking different dishes.

    So, the menu should be changed to what the son wants, in the hope everyone else will eat that?

    I'd say the food is already purchased and preparation started with 24 hours notice.

    I had the same issue (with an adult) who just "didn't really like" what I was making. I didn't change the menu and was really annoyed by it. So I can see why the sister didn't entertain it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    anewme wrote: »
    So, the menu should be changed to what the son wants, in the hope everyone else will eat that?

    I'd say the food is already purchased and preparation started with 24 hours notice.

    I had the same issue (with an adult) who just "didn't really like" what I was making. I didn't change the menu and was really annoyed by it. So I can see why the sister didn't entertain it.

    I think the issue was the meat.

    Personally I'd have no problem swapping a roast chicken with roast pork etc. I'd throw the other one in the freezer to use for another nights dinner.

    If your budget is tight in both time and money I don't understand why you would invite extra people last minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭qwerty13


    If your budget is tight in both time and money I don't understand why you would invite extra people last minute.

    The sister didn’t invite the son last minute! The OP asked if he could bring his son, and unless the OP’s sis has a lot more money and time than me, that could have put her in a tight position. The OP himself was asked to ‘drop in’ - which I would honestly have assumed meant post dinner, for tea / coffee / drinks. So instead of a ‘drop in’, she then had 2 extras for dinner, and moaning about the menu!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    qwerty13 wrote: »
    The sister didn’t invite the son last minute! The OP asked if he could bring his son, and unless the OP’s sis has a lot more money and time than me, that could have put her in a tight position. The OP himself was asked to ‘drop in’ - which I would honestly have assumed meant post dinner, for tea / coffee / drinks. So instead of a ‘drop in’, she then had 2 extras for dinner, and moaning about the menu!

    So he was supposed to leave his son at home, while he trotted off to dinner with his sister, her family and the child's grandparents?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    The situation is resolved and is now becoming a general discussion. Would suggest it’s time to lock.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭qwerty13


    So he was supposed to leave his son at home, while he trotted off to dinner with his sister, her family and the child's grandparents?

    No, but he should have recognised that he wasn’t in the original invite, he was asked to ‘drop in’ (which I would not take to mean dinner), he then assumed he was invited for dinner, he invited his son, and then said that his son didn’t like the food. That’s very presumptuous in my book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭qwerty13


    I think the issue was the meat.

    Personally I'd have no problem swapping a roast chicken with roast pork etc. I'd throw the other one in the freezer to use for another nights dinner.

    If your budget is tight in both time and money I don't understand why you would invite extra people last minute.

    And meat is the most expensive aspect of a dinner, especially for someone who doesn’t have much money. Look, I don’t mean to argue. Or get into a general discussion. But it feels like the you and the OP are railing against his sister because she won’t buy more/different food, and cook two meals. I’m just trying to say that this isn’t always easy for people because of money or time - and he wasn’t even invited for dinner in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    qwerty13 wrote: »
    And meat is the most expensive aspect of a dinner, especially for someone who doesn’t have much money. Look, I don’t mean to argue. Or get into a general discussion. But it feels like the you and the OP are railing against his sister because she won’t buy more/different food, and cook two meals. I’m just trying to say that this isn’t always easy for people because of money or time - and he wasn’t even invited for dinner in the first place.

    No I'm not railing against the sister.

    I was totally with her on the not making a separate dinner until she said, you can buy something on the way home. That comment seemed unnecessary and slightly b1tchy.

    With that comment, it made me think that she was entertaining her parents and maybe one of the parents asked if "John" was going to be there, and was "told" to invite her brother hence the last minute invite, and why she's being a bit snippy. I don't know. That is what popped into my head.

    I fully appreciate people may not have extra resources, which is why I don't see an issue in flagging that someone won't eat some of the limited resources.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭qwerty13


    It’s an awkward situation Calla, and I guess either - or both - parties could come out of this feeling offended or hurt.

    My thoughts however are that the OP wasn’t part of the original invite, and got asked to ‘drop in’. That doesn't mean ‘come for dinner’ to me. So then he took that as a dinner invite, and took it on himself to invite his son for dinner, and then complained about the menu. I’d be bulling tbh. At the presumption, the money, and the time re 2 meals because the OP’s 2 times presumptions means he thinks it’s ok to ask his sister to plan / buy / spend / cook more, because he decided to invite his son along, to a ‘drop in’ invite. And as his son is a teenager, he should be learning that he can’t always get what he wants.

    There’s no 100% right or wrong in this, and I hope they all work it out happily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    :)

    Wow this thing has taken off lol 😂!!!!

    Anyhow ... just to clarify , this is gas !!! I was invited for DINNER, not to just drop up.

    It’s PORK !!!!

    I never intended any menu change.
    I just thought instead of giving son Pork , if she just threw in a few chicken nuggets in the tray while pork was cooking .......

    Anyway , I just mentioned to him now it’s pork I know you don’t like it ... just eat spuds n veg ...

    He tells me ... is Pork not sausages? I said yap ...
    Sure I like them !!!!!!

    So it’s a bit of a pig in the poke ... all for naught!

    Appreciate the discussion , thanks P


    ( dinner on at 5 lol)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    No I'm not railing against the sister.

    I was totally with her on the not making a separate dinner until she said, you can buy something on the way home. That comment seemed unnecessary and slightly b1tchy.

    With that comment, it made me think that she was entertaining her parents and maybe one of the parents asked if "John" was going to be there, and was "told" to invite her brother hence the last minute invite, and why she's being a bit snippy. I don't know. That is what popped into my head.

    I fully appreciate people may not have extra resources, which is why I don't see an issue in flagging that someone won't eat some of the limited resources.

    Kinda see your point ok thks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    qwerty13 wrote: »
    It’s an awkward situation Calla, and I guess either - or both - parties could come out of this feeling offended or hurt.

    My thoughts however are that the OP wasn’t part of the original invite, and got asked to ‘drop in’. That doesn't mean ‘come for dinner’ to me. So then he took that as a dinner invite, and took it on himself to invite his son for dinner, and then complained about the menu. I’d be bulling tbh. At the presumption, the money, and the time re 2 meals because the OP’s 2 times presumptions means he thinks it’s ok to ask his sister to plan / buy / spend / cook more, because he decided to invite his son along, to a ‘drop in’ invite. And as his son is a teenager, he should be learning that he can’t always get what he wants.

    There’s no 100% right or wrong in this, and I hope they all work it out happily.

    Complety incorrect. I certainly think nothing of the sort. Being presumptuous not a very flattering attribute , in my book.
    My teenager had not hand act or part in this.
    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Wow this thing has taken off lol 😂!!!!

    Anyhow ... just to clarify , this is gas !!! I was invited for DINNER, not to just drop up.

    It’s PORK !!!!

    I never intended any menu change.
    I just thought instead of giving son Pork , if she just threw in a few chicken nuggets in the tray while pork was cooking .......

    Anyway , I just mentioned to him now it’s pork I know you don’t like it ... just eat spuds n veg ...

    He tells me ... is Pork not sausages? I said yap ...
    Sure I like them !!!!!!

    So it’s a bit of a pig in the poke ... all for naught!

    Appreciate the discussion , thanks P


    ( dinner on at 5 lol)

    Enjoy, and sure if conversation dries up you can always show them this thread :) or maybe not :D

    Best of luck in the new job tmw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭2012paddy2012


    Enjoy, and sure if conversation dries up you can always show them this thread :) or maybe not :D

    Best of luck in the new job tmw.

    So nice , thank you


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