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    blue note wrote: »
    What are people thinking about this? Supposed to be flying to Italy tomorrow! Concerned about the airport and gondolas and the like.

    where are you going geographically in relation to the outbreak? Have you travel insurance, is it invalidated if you go against the warning?


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    Rew wrote: »
    where are you going geographically in relation to the outbreak? Have you travel insurance, is it invalidated if you go against the warning?

    Cervinia. Dept of foreign affairs advise against travelling to the regions affected, which includes where we fly into and up to about 20km east of our resort.

    I'm wondering even if we go could we just end up quarantined anyway. Might not even get to go skiing.

    Not certain on the insurance. Pretty sure we won't get anything back if we don't go because flights aren't cancelled. And I'd be surprised if we'd get anything back if we went because we'd be going against advice from the department of foreign affairs.


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    You'd better get the international pass now blue note! Ski down into neutral zermatt!

    Rew makes a good point re travel insurance, you'd best check the small print as I'd be very surprised if they don't have a clause withdrawing cover if you travel against advice of embassy

    I don't know how tied in to cervinia you are, you can just continue up the road and through mont blanc tunnel and be in chamonix in maybe another half hour? Nicer town to walk around and very dramatic mountain scenery for romantic buzzard side


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    Lengthy discussion here: https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=151841

    Older demographic on snowheads. Many snow granddad keyboard warriors. Very much at risk, hence lengthy thread

    There is a post towards the end where the Aosta valley resorts confirm that they are all fully open for business (Cervinia is in the Aosta valley)

    I think this is really God testing your marriage by throwing the two of you into a cubicle in a latex suit for 14 days

    On a serious note, I think this could in effect be the end of the European ski season this year, assuming the spread continues and that the authorities approach will be lock down when it lands


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    We're still in Dublin. Decided not to go. I think the holiday would be fine, but the chances of being forced to voluntarily quarantine ourselves would be too high when we get home. People are nuts about this thing and we had to factor that into our decision. I started a new job a month ago and am on site with a client on Monday. My office couldn't realistically let me go and there's a decent chance people would be in to hr in my office demanding i be sent home for a fortnight.

    My wifes (sounds odd saying that!) Office building had people in China for the Chinese new years. They weren't allowed back into the building for 2 weeks even though they were nowhere near any of the dangerous areas.

    I think the likely scenario in cervinia would be that we'd have a great holiday, I reckon Italy will contain the cases now listening to all they're doing and then we would get home and work would be very unimpressed that we knowingly went there considering the risks.

    So.... we've booked Andorra for 3 days, flying to Toulouse tomorrow! Not the end of the world. An expensive change, but we'll live. And I don't care what's in the air in Andorra, I'm going. If there's a strain or coronavirus zipping around on segways targeting blond men from Waterford with above average schlongs I'm still going!


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    Brilliant, fair play!

    I think you made the right call for sure. I was going to suggest Scotland as a novelty but Andorra better idea!

    Enjoy it now the doubt is behind you (fecking lifts in Cervinia would have been closed anyway :pac:)


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    blue note wrote: »
    We're still in Dublin. Decided not to go. I think the holiday would be fine, but the chances of being forced to voluntarily quarantine ourselves would be too high when we get home. People are nuts about this thing and we had to factor that into our decision. I started a new job a month ago and am on site with a client on Monday. My office couldn't realistically let me go and there's a decent chance people would be in to hr in my office demanding i be sent home for a fortnight.

    My wifes (sounds odd saying that!) Office building had people in China for the Chinese new years. They weren't allowed back into the building for 2 weeks even though they were nowhere near any of the dangerous areas.

    I think the likely scenario in cervinia would be that we'd have a great holiday, I reckon Italy will contain the cases now listening to all they're doing and then we would get home and work would be very unimpressed that we knowingly went there considering the risks.

    So.... we've booked Andorra for 3 days, flying to Toulouse tomorrow! Not the end of the world. An expensive change, but we'll live. And I don't care what's in the air in Andorra, I'm going. If there's a strain or coronavirus zipping around on segways targeting blond men from Waterford with above average schlongs I'm still going!



    People aren't 'nuts' about this thing it's now spread west towards France and into south Italy , croatia and Austria.


    Contain the cases is it.... It's ramped up


    Anyone that wants to go on a holiday to an infected area needs their head examined and could and would be responsible for spreading it home.

    They'd be selfish nut bags for the sake of a snow holiday getting ill staying in your room for the duration or worse death.

    Nuts indeed....


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    Schools in Wicklow and Dublin taking precautions after return of students from Italy ski trips

    http://jrnl.ie/5021512f


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    Three more deaths in northern Italy .


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    Heading for Austria on Saturday. Bit concerning with two cases in Innsbruck now.


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    trashcan wrote: »
    Heading for Austria on Saturday. Bit concerning with two cases in Innsbruck now.

    From what I have read they are 2 Italians who traveled from an affected area in Italy to Innsbruck where they work. The Austrians have isolated them and 12 people they came in contact with so at this point it has broken out. 1 of them works in a hotel so thats been locked down for cleaning.


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    Rew wrote: »
    From what I have read they are 2 Italians who traveled from an affected area in Italy to Innsbruck where they work. The Austrians have isolated them and 12 people they came in contact with so at this point it has broken out. 1 of them works in a hotel so thats been locked down for cleaning.

    Yep, saw that. Rationally I think it should be ok. Also saw this afternoon that the hotel lockdown has been lifted, so that's a good sign.


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    I think the game is up and it'll be Europe wide shortly. Finish guy contracted it on a ski trip Northern Italy there recently. Popping up in too many places and likely undiagnosed a huge amount also, have to suspect the ski season will take a massive hit now.


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    https://www.thejournal.ie/covid-19-denmark-5023741-Feb2020
    DENMARK HAS REPORTED its first coronavirus case, a man who had returned from a skiing holiday in northern Italy which has become a hotspot for the disease.


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    I think that was the one I meant, not Finnish

    But as we know the Belfast case was from Northern Italy

    I also heard on RTE last night that one of the recent UK cases was of a guy who had been skiing in Northern Italy

    The Tenerife cases and a bunch of other ones are out of Northern Italy also

    I think the Austrian ones too

    Its a pity because I really like Northern Italy! And its due to snow there this week!


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    Could anyone that knows where I could get respirator face masks today in Ireland please dm me thank you


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    So what's the story with how this plays out then?

    Im not a medical mind at all.
    How does this kind of thing go away?
    Does it go away ?
    Does it become a flu type thing that just remains a risk?
    Is it going to get stronger and wipe out half the planets population?
    Is it only a death risk for really sick old people?


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    Be interesting to know where they were skiing, was it south and west of milan and went through the restricted areas or was it in fact way up the north in Livigno and the Dolomites???
    Supposed to be going Saturday week


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    gar wrote: »
    Be interesting to know where they were skiing, was it south and west of milan and went through the restricted areas or was it in fact way up the north in Livigno and the Dolomites???
    Supposed to be going Saturday week

    No info unfortunately, but I don't think its skiing you should necessarily be worried about, its the airport you go to. Milan seems to have been mentioned in relation to a lot of the cases.


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    Could anyone that knows where I could get respirator face masks today in Ireland please dm me thank you

    Apparently these are only of use to stop people who have it spreading it to other people


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    mcgragger wrote: »
    So what's the story with how this plays out then?

    Im not a medical mind at all.
    How does this kind of thing go away?
    Does it go away ?
    Does it become a flu type thing that just remains a risk?
    Is it going to get stronger and wipe out half the planets population?
    Is it only a death risk for really sick old people?

    It may "run its course" which I've heard suggested could take a year
    Vaccine will probably be developed during this period and form part of the flu vaccine in future

    death rate is very low and is highly focussed on people who are already ill or elderly. As someone pointed out on another forum, death rate on the cruise ship for instance is only .5% of people who are infected, and most people on that ship would be older. Death rates from other outbreaks are probably skewed because lots of people could have the virus without getting sick at all or sick enough to bring themselves to medical attention and get tested.

    The stats of 2 - 5 % being quoted are of cases where people have tested positive. In reality in those areas lots more people probably have it but haven't gotten badly ill so when they are factored in the death rate would be much less.

    No reasonable fear whatsoever that it will get worse or end up killing half the population

    But without knowing more it might be time to start cracking people's heads open and feeding on the sticky glue inside (Simpsons)


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    Puss to fly to Salzburg on Saturday 7th for a few days in Zell Am See. Wonder how this is all going to progress over the next week?


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    At the moment I'd just avoid Northern Italy? I think there's been very little spread elsewhere, though a lot could change in next few days

    Its hard to know really. Travel advice hasn't said don't go. The risk to our health is tiny, I think the real risk is of causing a spread or of the inconvenience of a containment strategy on you, i.e., if you have to stay somewhere for a long time due to a lock down. That risk is probably small enough though.


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    I’ve asthma and haven’t been great recently with it. My consultant said he has no issue with me traveling if I’m feeling ok but I’m undecided. In fairness anything can happen in the next week.


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    listermint wrote: »
    People aren't 'nuts' about this thing it's now spread west towards France and into south Italy , croatia and Austria.


    Contain the cases is it.... It's ramped up


    Anyone that wants to go on a holiday to an infected area needs their head examined and could and would be responsible for spreading it home.

    They'd be selfish nut bags for the sake of a snow holiday getting ill staying in your room for the duration or worse death.

    Nuts indeed....

    Guess where the Clare family went and a practicing health care professional too sure ignore all advice why not....

    Folks need to put a plug in their skiing visits it's a hotbed for spreading it across places that have avoided it.


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    listermint wrote: »
    Guess where the Clare family went and a practicing health care professional too sure ignore all advice why not....

    Folks need to put a plug in their skiing visits it's a hotbed for spreading it across places that have avoided it.

    Skiing visits are a hotbed???


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    listermint wrote: »
    Guess where the Clare family went and a practicing health care professional too sure ignore all advice why not....

    Folks need to put a plug in their skiing visits it's a hotbed for spreading it across places that have avoided it.

    The advice wasn't to avoid Milan / ski resorts, it was to avoid the 11 or so towns. When I didn't go to Italy and went to andorra instead (flying into France) the department of foreign affairs had a higher risk warning for France (due to yellow vest protests) than Italy. If I was to listen to advice I'd have gone to Italy instead of Andorra.

    The chances of coming home sick from an Italian ski holiday are still very low. But the chances of someone coming home sick from one area now high.

    We'll have loads of Italians coming over this weekend anyway though. They've bought plane tickets anyway, plenty of hotel rooms prepaid and time booked off work. Not a chance many of them will cancel.


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    listermint wrote: »
    Guess where the Clare family went and a practicing health care professional too sure ignore all advice why not....

    Folks need to put a plug in their skiing visits it's a hotbed for spreading it across places that have avoided it.


    The current affairs thread is a hotbed for spreading panic you mean.

    You'd swear every person who recently returned from skiing anywhere is carrying the coronavirus.


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