Travellers close down motorway to race horses

Thelonious Monk

This is just last weekend. Absolute scumbags for the way they treat animals alone.
But also why wouldnt they do things like this? The law doesnt apply to them and never will. This is 2020 ffs, not the wild west.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda%C3%AD-investigating-four-lane-motorway-sulky-race-1.4178928

Galwayguy35

Sure they had to take a few days off from flaking each other in the streets and in carparks to try something new.

The rest of the population use motorways to get to work, they use them to push already mistreated animals to exhaustion.

Galwayguy35

Sure they had to take a few days off from flaking each other in the streets and in carparks to try something new.

The rest of the population use motorways to get to work, they use them to push already mistreated animals to exhaustion.

mloc123

Knackers gonna knack..

whisky_galore

In before something something culture.

normanoffside

whisky_galore wrote: »

In before something something culture.

In before someone asks why the OP assumes they are travellers.

whisky_galore

normanoffside wrote: »

In before someone asks why the OP assumes they are travellers.

Settled people do this every day of the week, in between dropping their rubbish off at halting sites.

malinheader

Is there any point in this thread.. we all know nothing will be done or can be done. Its there culture.

Thelonious Monk

malinheader wrote: »

Is there any point in this thread.. we all know nothing will be done or can be done. Its there culture.

No, you're right, nothing can be done, I was just venting frustration. It's the disdain in which they treat animals and the environment that irks me the most, but I suppose we just have to live with it.

malinheader

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

No, you're right, nothing can be done, I was just venting frustration. It's the disdain in which they treat animals and the environment that irks me the most, but I suppose we just have to live with it.

Not only animals but they have no respect or responsibility for any of their actions. As soon as someone has the balls to speak up they are attacked and classed as racist.

Sheep breeder

Come on lads didn’t Enda give them freedom of Ireland to do what they want and when and where and the big thing not to work or contribute to society in anyway.

whomenonotme

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

This is just last weekend. Absolute scumbags for the way they treat animals alone.
But also why wouldnt they do things like this? The law doesnt apply to them and never will. This is 2020 ffs, not the wild west.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda%C3%AD-investigating-four-lane-motorway-sulky-race-1.4178928

It's not exclusively Travellers doing this. I met someone who works with horses (legitimately) who takes part in these road races. He also races in Portmarnock raceway but when I asked why still do the road races he said there's nothing like the buzz and adrenaline of doing the road races.


Lads doing this put up facebook live videos like this (not the person I was talking to) https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1131107823734848&id=100005069225157

Martin Lanigan

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Come on lads didn’t Enda give them freedom of Ireland to do what they want and when and where and the big thing not to work or contribute to society in anyway.

They do contribute - to the crime stats.

normanoffside

normanoffside wrote: »

In before someone asks why the OP assumes they are travellers.

whomenonotme wrote: »

It's not exclusively Travellers doing this. I met someone who works with horses (legitimately) who takes part in these road races. He also races in Portmarnock raceway but when I asked why still do the road races he said there's nothing like the buzz and adrenaline of doing the road races.


Lads doing this put up facebook live videos like this (not the person I was talking to) https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1131107823734848&id=100005069225157

I see it didn’t take long

Hoboo

whomenonotme wrote: »

It's not exclusively Travellers doing this. I met someone who works with horses (legitimately) who takes part in these road races. He also races in Portmarnock raceway but when I asked why still do the road races he said there's nothing like the buzz and adrenaline of doing the road races.


Lads doing this put up facebook live videos like this (not the person I was talking to) https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1131107823734848&id=100005069225157

He might not be a Traveller, but anyone doing road races is an absolute knacker in the modern sense of the word.

Beta Ray Bill

Hoboo wrote: »

He might not be a Traveller, but anyone doing road races is an absolute knacker in the modern sense of the word.

Exactly!

It's not something any normal person would do, only scummers.

Diceicle

There's only someting like 30,000 of them in Ireland. Imagine the state of the place if there was a 100,000.

Eric Cartman

Traveller privilege in full show again.

Dr. Colossus

Have Pavee Point commented yet?:D

Gavlor

Are you sure that’s not the new sinn fien parliamentary party heading to the dail earlier on??

Mrcaramelchoc

Dr. Colossus wrote: »

Have Pavee Point commented yet?:D

They are just in the middle of being barred from a pub.they'll comment shortly.

RocketRaccoon

Gavlor wrote: »

Are you sure that’s not the new sinn fien parliamentary party heading to the dail earlier on??

If you're going to try and be clever or funny, at least learn to spell.

Gavlor

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

If you're going to try and be clever or funny, at least learn to spell.

*try TO be

A few hours ago, drove past a withered-looking pony strapped to an electricity pole outside a halting site. Rope wasn't long enough to allow it graze, just hemmed in on a concrete patch. Call put into the local animal rescue without delay. Hopefully the poor creature has been liberated into a much better existence. "Culture" be damned.

Thelonious Monk

Deleted User wrote: »

A few hours ago, drove past a withered-looking pony strapped to an electricity pole outside a halting site. Rope wasn't long enough to allow it graze, just hemmed in on a concrete patch. Call put into the local animal rescue without delay. Hopefully the poor creature has been liberated into a much better existence. "Culture" be damned.

If you shot the poor thing in the head you'd be doing it a favour

The Royal Scam

Diceicle wrote: »

There's only someting like 30,000 of them in Ireland. Imagine the state of the place if there was a 100,000.

Imagine if 10% of the Male and 22% of the female of that 30k were not in prison. And people wonder why the majority of normal people are absolutely sick of their culture.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/disproportionate-number-of-travellers-in-prison-population-1.3263524

SusieBlue

The poor animals, they must have been terrified with the cars driving so close behind them.
I won't pretend to be a horse expert but I know that galloping on tarmac and other hard surfaces can be extremely painful and dangerous for them.
Its just downright cruelty.
I saw a lot of comments under the FB article from apologists, stating these are the most loved and cared for animals in the world and all members of that minority group care deeply for their animals..Absolute BS. They only care about selfishly making money out of them.
I don't know how they repeatedly get away with this crap & how some are still so blind to their ways.

CrankyHaus

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A few hours ago, drove past a withered-looking pony strapped to an electricity pole outside a halting site. Rope wasn't long enough to allow it graze, just hemmed in on a concrete patch. Call put into the local animal rescue without delay. Hopefully the poor creature has been liberated into a much better existence. "Culture" be damned.

There was a dead horse lying on the road at the entrance to Dunsink Lane yesterday morning. A Garda Car with the blues on beside it. No doubt settled people left it there again.

CrankyHaus

SusieBlue wrote: »

I don't know how they repeatedly get away with this crap & how some are still so blind to their ways.

Simple. €€€€. For lawyers. Quangos and any "academics" willing to play along with the "prejudice and disadvantage" narrative.

Beta Ray Bill

CrankyHaus wrote: »

There was a dead horse lying on the road at the entrance to Dunsink Lane yesterday morning. A Garda Car with the blues on beside it. No doubt settled people left it there again.

It amazes me that in 2020 you don't need a licence to own a horse in Ireland.

Should be a simple process:
To get a Licence, you must own or lease land to keep the animal.
If you don't have the land, you cant have a licence.
If you're caught with a horse without a licence the Horse is Euthanised.
Any horses grazing/left tied up on public land are Euthanised.

They're better off dead than in the hands of these people.

Martin Lanigan

CrankyHaus wrote: »

There was a dead horse lying on the road at the entrance to Dunsink Lane yesterday morning. A Garda Car with the blues on beside it. No doubt settled people left it there again.

The Amish strike again.

whisky_galore

Beta Ray Bill wrote: »

It amazes me that in 2020 you don't need a licence to own a horse in Ireland.

Should be a simple process:
To get a Licence, you must own or lease land to keep the animal.
If you don't have the land, you cant have a licence.
If you're caught with a horse without a licence the Horse is Euthanised.
Any horses grazing/left tied up on public land are Euthanised.

They're better off dead than in the hands of these people.

Far stricter controls for cattle, any gob****e or even child can buy a horse or swap it for a PlayStation.

whisky_galore

CrankyHaus wrote: »

There was a dead horse lying on the road at the entrance to Dunsink Lane yesterday morning. A Garda Car with the blues on beside it. No doubt settled people left it there again.

It wouldn't fit in the brown bin.

osarusan

A law allowing for the immediate confiscation and destruction of both the horses and racing apparatus would be good.

dinorebel

Beta Ray Bill wrote: »

It amazes me that in 2020 you don't need a licence to own a horse in Ireland.

Should be a simple process:
To get a Licence, you must own or lease land to keep the animal.
If you don't have the land, you cant have a licence.
If you're caught with a horse without a licence the Horse is Euthanised.
Any horses grazing/left tied up on public land are Euthanised.

They're better off dead than in the hands of these people.

Yep because travelers are well known for having driving licenses car tax and so on it would just be another law for them to break.

Yurt2

Poor animals must be terrified.

Eric Cartman

CrankyHaus wrote: »

There was a dead horse lying on the road at the entrance to Dunsink Lane yesterday morning. A Garda Car with the blues on beside it. No doubt settled people left it there again.

Fionnan and sorcha just couldnt get it on the big green egg in a failed attempt to make viande chevaline, typical.

Raconteuse

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Simple. €€€€. For lawyers. Quangos and any "academics" willing to play along with the "prejudice and disadvantage" narrative.

I think many of us will remember a regularly posting solicitor here who would just not acknowledge the disproportionate problems in traveller society. To a point beyond delusion.

Saw a Facebook post about this last night. The usual grotesque defence and downplaying by some commenters.

jmayo

whomenonotme wrote: »

It's not exclusively Travellers doing this. I met someone who works with horses (legitimately) who takes part in these road races. He also races in Portmarnock raceway but when I asked why still do the road races he said there's nothing like the buzz and adrenaline of doing the road races.


Lads doing this put up facebook live videos like this (not the person I was talking to) https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1131107823734848&id=100005069225157

Yeah I hear the lads in Ballydoyle are going to start doing it on the Cashel bypass soon.

Raconteuse wrote: »

I think many of us will remember a regularly posting solicitor here who would just not acknowledge the disproportionate problems in traveller society. To a point beyond delusion.

Saw a Facebook post about this last night. The usual grotesque defence and downplaying by some commenters.

Hey did you expect him to start insulting half his clientele.
BTW was this by any chance a Kerry solicitor that used to do election work for the Bull O'Donoghue ?

Just remember travellers are the gift that keeps on giving for some solicitors.

jim o doom

I don't know if it was travellers, or who was involved, but if they have the registration numbers of the vehicles that were "protecting" the racers front and back, all of those vehicles should be impounded and destroyed, and the owners fined and banned from driving for whatever period the judge deems acceptable.

If the horse owners or the racers can be identified, their horses and traps should be taken too. Absolutely insane if this is left unpunished, unless they're unable to identify the culprits.

lawrencesummers

malinheader wrote: »

Is there any point in this thread.. we all know nothing will be done or can be done. Its there culture.

Plenty can be done.

This isn’t legal on a motorway.
It’s animal cruelty.
Each “Support” vehicle is breaking the law.

Nothing will be done.

emeldc

whomenonotme wrote: »

It's not exclusively Travellers doing this. I met someone who works with horses (legitimately) who takes part in these road races. He also races in Portmarnock raceway but when I asked why still do the road races he said there's nothing like the buzz and adrenaline of doing the road races.


Lads doing this put up facebook live videos like this (not the person I was talking to) https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1131107823734848&id=100005069225157

That's a disgusting video. Those poor animals being run to death. I couldn't watch it to the end. Even the grand national doesn't go on for that long.

Cazale

As discussed on another thread this is a regular occurrence on a Sunday morning around 7am. I've been late for work a few times because of it. Myself and work colleagues have rang 999 numerous times but the guards haven't done anything about it. It got to the stage in the summer that I would expect to be delayed so the guards are well aware of it and choose to ignore it. It's bad enough that they are racing on the road but they aggressively block anyone who tries to overtake them on the hard shoulder and people have been followed by them afterwards.

Cazale

Cazale wrote: »

As discussed on another thread this is a regular occurrence on a Sunday morning around 7am. I've been late for work a few times because of it. Myself and work colleagues have rang 999 numerous times but the guards haven't done anything about it. It got to the stage in the summer that I would expect to be delayed so the guards are well aware of it and choose to ignore it. It's bad enough that they are racing on the road but they aggressively block anyone who tries to overtake them on the hard shoulder and people have been followed by them afterwards.

Driving 6-7 abreast on a dual carriageway deserves a prison sentence

Kermit.de.frog

jim o doom wrote: »

I don't know if it was travellers

Really?

Slowyourrole

They do this most Sundays in different locations. Start just before Garda shift change. There was a patrol car trying to intervene a couple of weeks ago near Brownsbarn but there's not much they can do against those numbers.

jim o doom

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Really?

Yeah man, one would assume that it is, but I'm not one to make assumptions without concrete evidence.

wpd

Slowyourrole wrote: »

They do this most Sundays in different locations. Start just before Garda shift change. There was a patrol car trying to intervene a couple of weeks ago near Brownsbarn but there's not much they can do against those numbers.

Why not i am sure there are more garda cars a radio call away if they were bothered with actually doing something about it

easier to stop people for tax and insurance than deal with this

Kivaro

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

If you shot the poor thing in the head you'd be doing it a favour

The pony did nothing wrong.
It should be immediately removed and provided with shelter and care, and the owners (if found) fined/jailed.
Edit: I know you were being tongue and cheek.

Ave Sodalis

Beta Ray Bill wrote:

Should be a simple process: To get a Licence, you must own or lease land to keep the animal. If you don't have the land, you cant have a licence. If you're caught with a horse without a licence the Horse is Euthanised. Any horses grazing/left tied up on public land are Euthanised.

Can I be an annoying nitpick about this? This won't do anything and is entirely impractical. Many average horse owners don't own land and keep the horse in livery. Euthanising the animal isn't going to be much of a deterrent if they don't give a damn about the animal. I know of several ponies by good owners that are tethered on verges outside the owner's house to clean them up. They're also used by multi day trekking yards to give their horses a break. What you're suggesting won't actually do a single thing against the people you're targeting and would just make life for the normal horse owner much more difficult.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.thejournal.ie/ispca-shocked-and-appalled-after-video-emerges-of-high-speed-sulky-race-on-n7-motorway-5014570-Feb2020/

Gas. The Journal put an article up on it but no comments allowed. Every other topic in the world you can comment on but not The Ones Who May Not Be Criticised.