Incident with work car

nenemcgurt

I was involved in an incident in my work car and I am sceptical as to who is at fault.

I was driving my work car, a 201 Insignia, to Belfast to collect something and on the way back to kill time I decided to pull into Slieve Gullion. I parked the car in the car park and went for a walk around. It was 4:30 when I arrived and the gates closed at 5. However I didn’t notice the sign about this when I came in.

I came back to the car at about 5:20 and to my anger I saw the gates were closed. I went to the car and saw a note under the wiper which had been left by the park warden. It said ‘Gates closed, exit on Forest Drive’. So I drove down Forest Drive only to find the gates were shut there as well. I roared “How the **** do you get out of this place” and reversed to car up the back up the hill. I reversed too fast on a bend end the rear of the car ended up hitting a tree, at which point after shouting a few profanities I got out to check the damage. The rear bumper was badly dented and bearing in mind this was a brand new 201 car I was concerned about the reaction of my manager.

I managed to get back up the hill and back to the car park. I saw a sign saying Mullaghbawn and decided that would be the best way to go. I drove up the path where I was walking earlier and had to go about 2km/h the whole way. When I managed to get to the very top there were some great views of Newry but the road became very dark and with the fog my lights weren’t much help. After driving for about five minutes I reached the exit stretch. However when I got to the exit itself to my horror it was also shut. After this I basically lost it in the car and some of the interiors were scratched as a result. I tried to dial the PSNI but there was no signal so after I managed to calm myself down I got out and walked to the Spar in Mullaghbawn were the the PSNI were called for me. I had to wait for almost an hour until the park warden came back to open the gates.

After I was free I drove back to Dublin and observed that there was some bad damage to the rear bumper and also the side of the car as I had scratched it on a hedge fence coming down the road in Slieve Gullion.

Basically I want to know who is at fault here. The warden should NOT have left his office until all the cars had gone, I hold him responsible as he should’ve stayed to let me out. I will tell my manager that this is his fault as I believe it is.

Can the warden be held partly responsible for this?

seamus

nenemcgurt wrote: »

Can the warden be held partly responsible for this?

Not even a tiny little bit.

You crashed your car into a tree and then damaged the interior when you had a tantrum.

The park warden didn't cause you to do either of these things.

People routinely park their vehicles in public car parks overnight. It unreasonable to expect the warden to wait for people to come get their cars, especially when there's plenty of warning that the gates will close.

blindside88

Not a hope in the world is the warden responsible. There was a sign saying that the gates closed at 5 and you didn’t see it, what if you didn’t come back until 11, would you expect him to wait for you? Besides this, you crashed the car not the warden!

GBX

No. It's your fault. If the signage said 5 and you didnt see it, how is that somebody else's fault?
Quite often car parks are closed with cars left in after the time. That's what the times are there for - to let people know when the gates close.

akelly02

haha you are at fault ya mad man .

Lantus

I wouldn't even try to blame anyone. Firstly it's not their fault in the slightest and secondly it will just make you look silly and undermine your credibility.

Just hold your hand and say sorry I had to reverse back to let a car past and tipped the bumper.

Next time don't panic. There was an exit and you were advised.

nikkibikki

You're clutching at straws here. You've nobody to blame but yourself for your temper tantrums that caused the exterior and interior damage.

Roddylarge

nenemcgurt wrote: »

Can the warden be held partly responsible for this?

This has to be a wind up.
You crashed the car, the warden didn't make you reverse into a tree or a hedge or act like a toddler smashing up the inside of the car.

This is one of those situations where you have to wear your big boy pants and own up to your mistakes.

Bombaby1974

So you took a little detour to kill time, got locked in a car park after hours, reversed into a tree, scratched off a hedge and threw a fit, damaging the inside of the car?

Definitely the wardens fault!!! *



*It isn't.

Allinall

The trees and bushes were stationary when you hit them, so 100% your fault.

You probably need to work on your anger management as well.

passatman86

Couldn't stop picturing Homer Simpson

Mundo7976

"Can the warden be held partly responsible for this?"

Only if ye let him in to drive the car

bmc58

nenemcgurt wrote: »

I was involved in an incident in my work car and I am sceptical as to who is at fault.

I was driving my work car, a 201 Insignia, to Belfast to collect something and on the way back to kill time I decided to pull into Slieve Gullion. I parked the car in the car park and went for a walk around. It was 4:30 when I arrived and the gates closed at 5. However I didn’t notice the sign about this when I came in.

I came back to the car at about 5:20 and to my anger I saw the gates were closed. I went to the car and saw a note under the wiper which had been left by the park warden. It said ‘Gates closed, exit on Forest Drive’. So I drove down Forest Drive only to find the gates were shut there as well. I roared “How the **** do you get out of this place” and reversed to car up the back up the hill. I reversed too fast on a bend end the rear of the car ended up hitting a tree, at which point after shouting a few profanities I got out to check the damage. The rear bumper was badly dented and bearing in mind this was a brand new 201 car I was concerned about the reaction of my manager.

I managed to get back up the hill and back to the car park. I saw a sign saying Mullaghbawn and decided that would be the best way to go. I drove up the path where I was walking earlier and had to go about 2km/h the whole way. When I managed to get to the very top there were some great views of Newry but the road became very dark and with the fog my lights weren’t much help. After driving for about five minutes I reached the exit stretch. However when I got to the exit itself to my horror it was also shut. After this I basically lost it in the car and some of the interiors were scratched as a result. I tried to dial the PSNI but there was no signal so after I managed to calm myself down I got out and walked to the Spar in Mullaghbawn were the the PSNI were called for me. I had to wait for almost an hour until the park warden came back to open the gates.

After I was free I drove back to Dublin and observed that there was some bad damage to the rear bumper and also the side of the car as I had scratched it on a hedge fence coming down the road in Slieve Gullion.

Basically I want to know who is at fault here. The warden should NOT have left his office until all the cars had gone, I hold him responsible as he should’ve stayed to let me out. I will tell my manager that this is his fault as I believe it is.

Can the warden be held partly responsible for this?

If I was your manager the next thing you would be driving is a bike.And you need anger managment sessions.

harr

Great story for a first post ...

jim salter

Surely this is a complete wind up.

Great troll attempt OP

nenemcgurt

jim salter wrote: »

Surely this is a complete wind up.

Great troll attempt OP

It isn’t a wind up, I was just very angry that your man didn’t stay to keep he gates open. If he had stayed out of courtesy I wouldn’t have damaged the car.

Not only that, but he MISLEAD me. He left a note saying the Forest Drive was open but it was closed. Why would he do that?

Slieve Gullion, one of the North’s most busy natural parks and I was locked in there for over an hour.

I was at fault for crashing I agree, but I wouldn’t have gotten into this mess in the first place if it wasn’t for the warden.

Timberrrrrrrr

nenemcgurt wrote: »

It isn’t a wind up, I was just very angry that your man didn’t stay to keep he gates open. If he had stayed out of courtesy I wouldn’t have damaged the car.

Not only that, but he MISLEAD me. He left a note saying the Forest Drive was open but it was closed. Why would he do that?

Slieve Gullion, one of the North’s most busy natural parks and I was locked in there for over an hour.

I was at fault for crashing I agree, but I wouldn’t have gotten into this mess in the first place if it wasn’t for the warden.

How long should he have waited? Another 20 minutes? An hour? 4 hours? How was he to know what time you would be back?

Be an adult and take responsibility for your actions.

GBX

nenemcgurt wrote: »

It isn’t a wind up, I was just very angry that your man didn’t stay to keep he gates open. If he had stayed out of courtesy I wouldn’t have damaged the car.

Not only that, but he MISLEAD me. He left a note saying the Forest Drive was open but it was closed. Why would he do that?

Slieve Gullion, one of the North’s most busy natural parks and I was locked in there for over an hour.

I was at fault for crashing I agree, but I wouldn’t have gotten into this mess in the first place if it wasn’t for the warden.

If you had have read the signs youd have known it closes at 5. No courtesy needed. You damaged the car. Out of anger. Tough luck

Gazzmonkey

jim salter wrote: »

Surely this is a complete wind up.

Great troll attempt OP

If it is, its epic and deserves a prize.


@ OP You could hold him responsible for his own actions, but not your actions or reactions.


I'd would just come clean to the boss as its a bad show of character not to take responsibility and your boss will likely think that way too. He might even be touched or impressed if you fully accept what happened.

Bob Harris

The good news is that you are not at fault as this is a complete wind-up.

_Brian

nenemcgurt wrote: »

I was involved in an incident in my work car and I am sceptical as to who is at fault.

I was driving my work car, a 201 Insignia, to Belfast to collect something and on the way back to kill time I decided to pull into Slieve Gullion. I parked the car in the car park and went for a walk around. It was 4:30 when I arrived and the gates closed at 5. However I didn’t notice the sign about this when I came in.

I came back to the car at about 5:20 and to my anger I saw the gates were closed. I went to the car and saw a note under the wiper which had been left by the park warden. It said ‘Gates closed, exit on Forest Drive’. So I drove down Forest Drive only to find the gates were shut there as well. I roared “How the **** do you get out of this place” and reversed to car up the back up the hill. I reversed too fast on a bend end the rear of the car ended up hitting a tree, at which point after shouting a few profanities I got out to check the damage. The rear bumper was badly dented and bearing in mind this was a brand new 201 car I was concerned about the reaction of my manager.

I managed to get back up the hill and back to the car park. I saw a sign saying Mullaghbawn and decided that would be the best way to go. I drove up the path where I was walking earlier and had to go about 2km/h the whole way. When I managed to get to the very top there were some great views of Newry but the road became very dark and with the fog my lights weren’t much help. After driving for about five minutes I reached the exit stretch. However when I got to the exit itself to my horror it was also shut. After this I basically lost it in the car and some of the interiors were scratched as a result. I tried to dial the PSNI but there was no signal so after I managed to calm myself down I got out and walked to the Spar in Mullaghbawn were the the PSNI were called for me. I had to wait for almost an hour until the park warden came back to open the gates.

After I was free I drove back to Dublin and observed that there was some bad damage to the rear bumper and also the side of the car as I had scratched it on a hedge fence coming down the road in Slieve Gullion.

Basically I want to know who is at fault here. The warden should NOT have left his office until all the cars had gone, I hold him responsible as he should’ve stayed to let me out. I will tell my manager that this is his fault as I believe it is.

Can the warden be held partly responsible for this?

I’m going to be honest here based on how you handled this situation it’s really scary that someone let’s you out in a work vehicle.

You were completely at fault here, it’s common proactive to lock the gates at the specified time and vehicles inside Have to make arrangements to be released.

You need to go back to work and explain the situation to your manager, try donit better than above as you come across as someone not suitable to be trusted. Offer to pay for the damage to be repaired, probably have it stopped out of your wages or something like that.

Massive tough lesson in this for you. Things go wrong, don’t panic when they do.

nenemcgurt

Whatever about the sign, I didn’t see it and that happens.

But he lied, he left a note on the wipers telling me there was an exit open and it was locked shut. I had to walking across half of south Armagh to find someone who could call the PSNI.

I asked the PSNI could they cut the lock with a bolt cutter and they said no they would have to contact the warden who lived in Newry. 15 minutes drive away and he took an hour to get there!

I was angry at the whole thing because I have a life. I have a family, I have things to do, people to meet, and I was stuck in a forest park for 90 minutes.

I had to meet someone in Dublin on Monday evening and I missed it. That is one of many reasons for my anger.

scarepanda

nenemcgurt wrote: »

I was at fault for crashing I agree, but I wouldn’t have gotten into this mess in the first place if it wasn’t for the warden I didn't take a detour and try to waste some time on my employers dime.

FTFY

dzilla

maybe change title to "arguement with work car"

Lost implants

One thing you're most definitely 100 percent responsible for is the best OP I've read on boards for years.

dzilla

nenemcgurt wrote: »

Slieve Gullion, one of the North’s most busy natural parks and I was locked in there for over an hour.

You are lucky to be alive.

Tacitus Kilgore

This is fantastic :D


Thanks OP, beats the politickin threads anyway

LollipopJimmy

You drive a car for work so I assume you are at least 17. Anyway, it's your own fault, accept responsibility and I suspect if you tell the story to your boss in the way you told it here you'll be looking for a new job.

Whatever about crashing into the tree but to damage the interior in a tantrum is plain ridiculous.

dzilla

nenemcgurt wrote: »

I was angry at the whole thing because I have a life

So does the warden.

Mundo7976

I was angry at the whole thing because I have a life. I have a family, I have things to do, people to meet, and I was stuck in a forest park for 90 minutes.




So does the warden and im sure he wouldnt be paid any overtime. He could have said no an left you there!

The chan chan man

“ I reversed too fast on a bend end the rear of the car ended up hitting a tree”

...Its your fault.

The chan chan man

Is this actually for real?!

Kudos on giving After Hours Work problems a laugh.

BTW, how are you going to explain to your manager you skive off to look at views during regular work hours.

And, Anger Management for the teenage girl (apologies to teenage girls for the comparison) outburst. :pac:

nenemcgurt

The chan chan man wrote: »

Is this actually for real?!

Yes.

I was frustrated at the whole thing. I had to meet someone that evening about something very important and missed the appointment because of it. He also as I said posted a note which said that one exit was open when it was in fact locked, he lied to me as well.

He just displayed a lack of courtesy throughout the whole thing.

I banged the car bumper off the tree because it was pitch black and foggy.

Tacitus Kilgore

nenemcgurt wrote: »

Yes.

I was frustrated at the whole thing. I had to meet someone that evening about something very important and missed the appointment because of it. He also as I said posted a note which said that one exit was open when it was in fact locked, he lied to me as well.

He just displayed a lack of courtesy throughout the whole thing.

I banged the car bumper off the tree because it was pitch black and foggy.

what if there was a person behind you not the tree? you sound pretty reckless tbh.

hawkelady

You should hand back the car keys to your manager and ask for a leap card ... you are obviously unstable.

Seve OB

I actually laughed out loud at the bit about scratching the inside of the car.

What are you, a 2 year old?

VanHalen

nenemcgurt wrote: »

I banged the car bumper off the tree because it was pitch black and foggy.

You banged the car bumper off the tree because you drove carelessly in the darkness and fog.

nenemcgurt

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

what if there was a person behind you not the tree? you sound pretty reckless tbh.

There was nobody else around.

Bottom line, if it wasn’t for the warden’s inconsideration and the fact he lied about an exit being open I wouldn’t have been in a position to damage the car. He drove me to lose it as I had an important appointment that I had waited for over a onto to arrange and I missed it because of him.

I only intended to go for an hours walk around Slieve Gullion not spend the day there. He could’ve just waited 20 minutes but no.

He was partially responsible.

loyatemu

this has to be a joke.

nenemcgurt

Seve OB wrote: »

I actually laughed out loud at the bit about scratching the inside of the car.

What are you, a 2 year old?

No, I was frustrated at the whole thing, everyone has a point where they let their temper get the better of them.

nenemcgurt

loyatemu wrote: »

this has got to be a joke.

It isn’t, it may sound as such but I am just that type of person, I have a short temper and fundamentally it wasn’t my fault, it was the warden’s.

StupidLikeAFox

Hi OP, I blame your parents and to a lesser extent wider society

Anaiyela

nenemcgurt wrote: »

There was nobody else around.

Bottom line, if it wasn’t for the warden’s inconsideration and the fact he lied about an exit being open I wouldn’t have been in a position to damage the car. He drove me to lose it as I had an important appointment that I had waited for over a onto to arrange and I missed it because of him.

I only intended to go for an hours walk around Slieve Gullion not spend the day there. He could’ve just waited 20 minutes but no.

He was partially responsible.

No he wasn't. You caused this situation. Get over it.

Timberrrrrrrr

nenemcgurt wrote: »

No, I was frustrated at the whole thing, everyone has a point where they let their temper get the better of them.

No, they really don't.

Tacitus Kilgore

nenemcgurt wrote: »

There was nobody else around.

Bottom line, if it wasn’t for the warden’s inconsideration and the fact he lied about an exit being open I wouldn’t have been in a position to damage the car. He drove me to lose it as I had an important appointment that I had waited for over a onto to arrange and I missed it because of him.

I only intended to go for an hours walk around Slieve Gullion not spend the day there. He could’ve just waited 20 minutes but no.

He was partially responsible.

How do you know, you probably didn't even look? - trees don't move and you managed to drive into one like...

Even if this was real - How would the warden have any idea how long you are going to be? How would you be his responsibility?

Noone else is responsible for your actions.

I Am The Law

nenemcgurt wrote: »

It isn’t, it may sound as such but I am just that type of person, I have a short temper and fundamentally it wasn’t my fault, it was the warden’s.

? Just ?

hawkeye_bmr

I'm really surprised nobody has blamed Sinn Féin yet....

nenemcgurt

nenemcgurt wrote: »

, I have a short temper and fundamentally it wasn’t my fault,

This latter belief possibly the cause of the former.

By za vay, ver you overly praised as a small kinder for ze most minor of accomplishments, hmm?

jaxxx

nenemcgurt wrote: »

I was involved in an incident in my work car and I am sceptical as to who is at fault.

I was driving my work car, a 201 Insignia, to Belfast to collect something and on the way back to kill time I decided to pull into Slieve Gullion. I parked the car in the car park and went for a walk around. It was 4:30 when I arrived and the gates closed at 5. However I didn’t notice the sign about this when I came in.

I came back to the car at about 5:20 and to my anger I saw the gates were closed. I went to the car and saw a note under the wiper which had been left by the park warden. It said ‘Gates closed, exit on Forest Drive’. So I drove down Forest Drive only to find the gates were shut there as well. I roared “How the **** do you get out of this place” and reversed to car up the back up the hill. I reversed too fast on a bend end the rear of the car ended up hitting a tree, at which point after shouting a few profanities I got out to check the damage. The rear bumper was badly dented and bearing in mind this was a brand new 201 car I was concerned about the reaction of my manager.

I managed to get back up the hill and back to the car park. I saw a sign saying Mullaghbawn and decided that would be the best way to go. I drove up the path where I was walking earlier and had to go about 2km/h the whole way. When I managed to get to the very top there were some great views of Newry but the road became very dark and with the fog my lights weren’t much help. After driving for about five minutes I reached the exit stretch. However when I got to the exit itself to my horror it was also shut. After this I basically lost it in the car and some of the interiors were scratched as a result. I tried to dial the PSNI but there was no signal so after I managed to calm myself down I got out and walked to the Spar in Mullaghbawn were the the PSNI were called for me. I had to wait for almost an hour until the park warden came back to open the gates.

After I was free I drove back to Dublin and observed that there was some bad damage to the rear bumper and also the side of the car as I had scratched it on a hedge fence coming down the road in Slieve Gullion.

Basically I want to know who is at fault here. The warden should NOT have left his office until all the cars had gone, I hold him responsible as he should’ve stayed to let me out. I will tell my manager that this is his fault as I believe it is.

Can the warden be held partly responsible for this?

Are you for real? The only person responsible for the damage to the car is you due to your negligent driving. Of course this is most likely a very poor trolling attempt. Remember when trolls used to be good?

neris

Its always somebody elses fault. and we wonder why the courts are like atm's