SINN FEIN - 24% - IRELAND'S BIGGEST PARTY ?

backslapper

IS THIS CORRECT ?

SINN FEIN WILL HIT 24% +

FF & FG 22/23%

WOW!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRNYqsMIbg0

Bikerman2019

it could well be true. When the two biggest parties show themselves to be useless, what do you do?

un5byh7sqpd2x0

They won’t be the biggest party, they probably won’t even be the second biggest party.

Idbatterim

Given the way this election has gone , I’ll be sick If sf don’t win most seats. After in many constituencies their single candidate won by a landslide and they could have taken second seats. Ffg can fcuk off. It’s not acceptable them denying change. I hope there are marches or a second election if those rats try to exclude sf

Fr_Dougal

Ireland always did have a soft spot for terrorists.

Idbatterim

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Ireland always did have a soft spot for terrorists.

Yeah they must have a soft spot for landlords and vulture funds ripping off those close to you on a most basic human need like housing. It’s disgusting!!

yourdeadwright

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Ireland always did have a soft spot for terrorists.

People who this are the same people that where happy to invite the Queen over and say bygones be bygones but only when it suits there argument

mickdw

Idbatterim wrote: »

Given the way this election has gone , I’ll be sick If sf don’t win most seats. After in many constituencies their single candidate won by a landslide and they could have taken second seats. Ffg can fcuk off. It’s not acceptable them denying change. I hope there are marches or a second election if those rats try to exclude sf

Do you understand how it works?
Every seat is equal so whoever can make the numbers can be the government whoever they may be.
If ff and FG and a few independents add up to over 80, they are entitled to form a government if they so wish and can agree.
SF can take their own lead and try to form a government if they think they can gather up 80 plus TDs.
Personally I'm thinking FF and SF plus Lowry and Healy Raes.

Dank Janniels

I reckon aload of the SF candidates are saying "what do we do now", probably shocked at the numbers they are getting!

yosser hughes

I'm scratching my head wondering why SF didn't run more candidates? Aengus O'Snodaigh was hoisted on people's shoulders but if I was him I'd be embarrassed. He could easily have got another SF candidate in. Same goes for several other constituencies. Eoin O'Broin was able to bring his running mate in, so they weren't even consistent in their election policy.
Does anyone have a theory?

pinkyeye

It would be in Sinn Feins next interest now to prevent the forming of a government and go to another election so they can put forward more candidates.

With the huge landslides they're getting in some areas they could have easily got a second seat.

pinkyeye

yosser hughes wrote: »

I'm scratching my head wondering why SF didn't run more candidates? Aengus O'Snodaigh was hoisted on people's shoulders but if I was him I'd be embarrassed. He could easily have got another SF candidate in. Same goes for several other constituencies. Eoin O'Broin was able to bring his running mate in, so they weren't even consistent in their election policy.
Does anyone have a theory?

Because they did so badly in the local and European elections they were trying to narrow it down.

SF wouldn't be able to repeat this performance. No substance to the majority of their TDs so far. Just the SF brand.

CIARAN_BOYLE

A lot of consituguencies they had planned on having two candidates and had two prospective candidates agreed upon.

Then the last local elections happened with terrible results and sinn fein told their prospective candidates sorry we dont need you to run.

I am surprised they didn't look into the numbers again prior to nominations closing. There was two opinion polls showing sf at 19-21% within 4 days of the closing of nominations.

Odhinn

Deleted User wrote: »

SF wouldn't be able to repeat this performance. No substance to the majority of their TDs so far. Just the SF brand.

I remember when the word was they'd never get a seat south of the border. Things have changed.

Timberrrrrrrr

pinkyeye wrote: »

It would be in Sinn Feins next interest now to prevent the forming of a government and go to another election so they can put forward more candidates.

With the huge landslides they're getting in some areas they could have easily got a second seat.

This would be the most prudent position for them but while they try this FF/FG will come together and bribe anyone and everyone into joining them to create a government, it wouldnt be a coalition it wouldn't be a rainbow it would be a 2 year olds A4 paper with a paint palette. Anything to keep SF out!

No fan of SF but fair play to them for doing so well.

Dank Janniels

Who will form a coallition with SF?
PBP-Solidarity? Independents?
Will FF change their minds+ sit down with them?

KaneToad

SF took the sensible option by running fewer candidates. Based on the locals & euros it was the obvious and pragmatic thing to do. All parties would have done the same.

handlemaster

Idbatterim wrote: »

Yeah they must have a soft spot for landlords and vulture funds ripping off those close to you on a most basic human need like housing. It’s disgusting!!

That old chestnut.

pinkyeye

pinkyeye wrote: »

It would be in Sinn Feins next interest now to prevent the forming of a government and go to another election so they can put forward more candidates.

With the huge landslides they're getting in some areas they could have easily got a second seat.

Very risky strategy?? It could very easily go against them again.

handlemaster

The people get what they vote for.

Odhinn

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Who will form a coallition with SF?
PBP-Solidarity? Independents?
Will FF change their minds+ sit down with them?

Such a massive turnabout would create g-forces that the human body can't stand up to. Luckily these are politicians we're talking about - martin seems to have softened his cough already.

yosser hughes

KaneToad wrote: »

SF took the sensible option by running fewer candidates. Based on the locals & euros it was the obvious and pragmatic thing to do. All parties would have done the same.

I can understand that but did they not do their own polling since?
Why did Eoin O'Broin have a running mate if they were being cautious?

Idbatterim

handlemaster wrote: »

That old chestnut.

Based on results and evidence

TheValeyard

handlemaster wrote: »

The people get what they vote for.

Around 75% did not vote SF (I think)

eastie17

They didnt run more candidates because neither they nor anyone else really expected this to happen or even understands how it did.
Some of the candidates topping the pool by landslides couldn't get elected in the council elections a few months ago! And SF were dismal in the presidential election.
I reckon a bin bag with an SF sticker on it would have got elected yesterday.

Anyway now they have got a bit of a mandate lets see what they can do with it. I imagine they'd be hoping NOT to go into government, criticize everything that moves from the opposition benches and then collapse the, what will be if they are not in it, a very shaky government in about 12 months when they have more candidates lined up.
Interesting to see what they would do then. Ultimately they will end up the same as FF/FG, the civil servants run the country and unless you are gonna take them head on which has never been a popular choice before then things like health just arent going to be fixed. Housing I think is getting fixed, there was just nothing built for about 5 years and thats why we are suffering now. The work being done now will come out into demand over the next 12 to 18 months, there will probably be a global recession bringing incomes and prices down and the Government at that time will look like problem solvers.

Fr_Dougal

Idbatterim wrote: »

Yeah they must have a soft spot for landlords and vulture funds ripping off those close to you on a most basic human need like housing. It’s disgusting!!

You do realise that SF won’t actually help the working person? All they care about is providing ‘foreva homes’ for the work shy.

Do you realise who has invested in these vulture funds? Do you have a pension, if you do, I can guarantee you that a significant part of that is invested in REITs.

freshpopcorn

Dank Janniels wrote: »

I reckon aload of the SF candidates are saying "what do we do now", probably shocked at the numbers they are getting!

Well they may get the opportunity to prove themselves now!

It will be interesting to see will there supporters stay loyal to them.

CageWager

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Will FF change their minds+ sit down with them?

Absolutely. MM will have a choice: Either stick to his guns and become the first FF leader not to be Taoiseach or else bite the bullet (no pun intended) and pair up with SF. IMO he will be under significant pressure from many members to get FF back into power at all costs after nearly a decade on the sidelines.

Donald Trump

Idbatterim wrote: »

Given the way this election has gone , I’ll be sick If sf don’t win most seats. After in many constituencies their single candidate won by a landslide and they could have taken second seats. Ffg can fcuk off. It’s not acceptable them denying change. I hope there are marches or a second election if those rats try to exclude sf

Nobody has any more power than anyone else to exclude others. If SF get a majority of seats then they have a majority of votes and can just vote themselves into government. If they didn't get enough votes because they either stupidly didn't run enough candidates or simply just didn't get enough votes then tough shite.

yosser hughes

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Who will form a coallition with SF?
PBP-Solidarity? Independents?
Will FF change their minds+ sit down with them?

Without a shadow of a doubt they will, despite vehemently saying otherwise before the election.

BanditLuke

Deleted User wrote: »

SF wouldn't be able to repeat this performance. No substance to the majority of their TDs so far. Just the SF brand.

Sorry you are wrong. Plenty of substance and young people are turning to turn in droves

Gaoth Laidir

It's time to emmigrate. To Syria. Or Zimbabwe. A group of terrorist thugs now possibly the largest party in the country. What does that say about the youth of today?

Odhinn

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

It's time to emmigrate. To Syria. Or Zimbabwe. A group of terrorist thugs now possibly the largest party in the country. What does that say about the youth of today?

....that they did the exact same as their great grandparents and grandparents? A "group of terrorist thugs" founded the state.

JP Liz V1

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

It's time to emmigrate. To Syria. Or Zimbabwe. A group of terrorist thugs now possibly the largest party in the country. What does that say about the youth of today?

Slan

Strumms

FG 1
FF 1
SF 22
Lab 0
GP 2
IND 3

29/160 seats filled so far, a ways to go but certainly grim enough reading.

Gaoth Laidir

Odhinn wrote: »

....that they did the exact same as their great grandparents and grandparents? A "group of terrorist thugs" founded the state.

And the latest thugs will run it into the ground. It will be interesting to see how they'll fund all these election promises...:rolleyes:

Fr_Dougal

Odhinn wrote: »

....that they did the exact same as their great grandparents and grandparents? A "group of terrorist thugs" founded the state.

It wasn’t Sinn Fein/IRA that founded the state. Sinn Fein/IRA murdered innocent men, women, and children. They have blood on their hands.

Wanderer78

Gaoth Laidir wrote:

It's time to emmigrate. To Syria. Or Zimbabwe. A group of terrorist thugs now possible the largest party in the country. What does that say about the youth of today?

That they've had enough of things such as, 'keep the recovery going' etc, I think everyone needs to relax anyway, sf aren't in government yet, expect the shanaigans to begin soon between ffg, even if SF get into government, they probably won't be able to implement half of their manifesto

careless sherpa

Wanderer78 wrote: »

That they've had enough of things such as, 'keep the recovery going' etc, I think everyone needs to relax anyway, sf aren't in government yet, expect the shanaigans to begin soon between ffg, even if SF get into government, they probably won't be able to implement half of their manifesto

I would imagine the national question will be front and centre of any potential programme for government.

Gaoth Laidir

I mean, Dessie Ellis ffs. A gangster of the highest order.

careless sherpa

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

I mean, Dessie Ellis ffs. A gangster of the highest order.

What do you mean by gangster exactly ?

Strumms

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

It's time to emmigrate. To Syria. Or Zimbabwe. A group of terrorist thugs now possibly the largest party in the country. What does that say about the youth of today?

It says that the Labor, FF and FG parties got bland and comfortable, SF worked hard on the ground and the young voter, being young, truly don’t know what the forthcoming nightmare of having the puppets of rabid, selfish and violent individuals in government will really be like. Their parents didn’t do a great job of reminding them... SF get in, getting the fûckers legally out might be a job, the following election might be erm, dodgy.

Gaoth Laidir

careless sherpa wrote: »

What do you mean by gangster exactly ?

Sorry, I meant terrorist scumbag.

yaboya1

yosser hughes wrote: »

I can understand that but did they not do their own polling since?
Why did Eoin O'Broin have a running mate if they were being cautious?

Because the running mate is a sitting TD, having won the by election last year for Frances Fitzgerald's old seat.

I see sheep

Dank Janniels wrote: »

I reckon aload of the SF candidates are saying "what do we do now", probably shocked at the numbers they are getting!

I reckon aload of the FF/FG candidates are saying "what do we do now", probably shocked at the numbers they are getting!

Odhinn

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

And the latest thugs will run it into the ground. It will be interesting to see how they'll fund all these election promises...:rolleyes:

We'll see.

Father Dougal wrote:

It wasn’t Sinn Fein/IRA that founded the state. Sinn Fein/IRA murdered innocent men, women, and children. They have blood on their hands.

It was a different Sinn Fein and a different IRA, but if you think they were saints who committed no wrong and didn't have "blood on their hands" you're very much mistaken. Armed struggle is like all war - mistakes are made, atrocities committed and so on. You should read up on the likes of Frank Aiken etc.

I see sheep

Deleted User wrote: »

SF wouldn't be able to repeat this performance. No substance to the majority of their TDs so far. Just the SF brand.

Yeah because the FF/FG muppets are full of substance.

joe swanson

Absolutely disgusting . I’m not a fan of any particular political party so the shinners can call me a blue shirt or whatever to their hearts content. They have presided over a train wreck in the north with record homelessness and a awful housing situation. They are scum, who don’t care about murdering innocent people. Their fanboys say it was a different time. Well I still remember and I’m in my thirties. And I know families that are still in pain from their innocent relatives being tortured and murdered.

That doesn’t seem to matter though . I thought Ireland had turned a corner bringing in gay marriage etc but this sickens me and I wonder what sort of people we have in this country. Any body who does an honest days work for a living may as well emigrate cos we’re done for.

Ireland - shame on you.

yosser hughes

yaboya1 wrote: »

Because the running mate is a sitting TD, having won the by election last year for Frances Fitzgerald's old seat.

Yes, of course, sorry I forgot that.