Who will possibly be next housing minister ?

frillyleaf

How will this work if FG FF SF are as close as exit polls suggest ?

Who are the possible candidates for housing minister ?

jimmycrackcorm

Eoin o broin.
From a FF /SF / others coalition

Kermit.de.frog

Eoghan Murphy will be the next housing minister.

collywobble7

jimmycrackcorm wrote:

Eoin o broin. From a FF /SF / others coalition

This..for comedy value alone

Fann Linn

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Eoin o broin.
From a FF /SF / others coalition

A better grasp of housing issues than the current one.

Plumbthedepths

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Eoghan Murphy will be the next housing minister.

Cop on he needs to get elected first and that looks dodgy.

Plumbthedepths

collywobble7 wrote: »

This..for comedy value alone

Unless you have been in a coma even FG acknowledged he had good ideas about housing.

votecounts

collywobble7 wrote: »

This..for comedy value alone

Why, can't be any worse than Eoghan Murphy who was a disaster and hope loses his seat.

v638sg7k1a92bx

Are people so naive to think that a change in minister will resolve the housing crisis. There are so many factors that are outside of the control of one individual.

Plumbthedepths

Knox Magnificent Escalator wrote: »

Are people so naive to think that a change in minister will resolve the housing crisis. There are so many factors that are outside of the control of one individual.

A change of ideology might make a difference to begin with, after that there is new perceptive.

JohnnyFlash

Eoin O’B.

The only man who makes Eoghan Murphy seem like a prole.

Looking forward to seeing SF putting their policies into place regarding this issue.

Plumbthedepths

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Eoin O’B.

The only man who makes Eoghan Murphy seem like a prole.

Looking forward to seeing SF putting their policies into place regarding this issue.

I can almost taste the lemon off that post. 'Prole' indeed as if any FG member would be happy with that application.

I'm waiting with interest to see if Eoin O'B gets it.

Does he want to sit in opposition writing books about how it should be done or does he want to be the minister and actually make the decisions.

enricoh

Meh, if o broin gets it landlords will leave the market in droves. They are already but it'll compound the lack of supply.
If yer renting just stop paying it'll probably be illegal to evict tenants with him!

Bees Tea

Whomever it is I just hope they build all the homeless a forever home

Markcheese

Well homes in general would be a good start ...

frillyleaf

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Eoghan Murphy will be the next housing minister.

Hopefully not , his arrogance will be even greater than before

pjohnson

enricoh wrote: »

Meh, if o broin gets it landlords will leave the market in droves. They are already but it'll compound the lack of supply.
If yer renting just stop paying it'll probably be illegal to evict tenants with him!

Then the should be made sell the house at a reasonable price. No selfish git should be allowed leave a house unoccupied as some kind of "statement".

Yurt2

enricoh wrote: »

Meh, if o broin gets it landlords will leave the market in droves. They are already but it'll compound the lack of supply.
If yer renting just stop paying it'll probably be illegal to evict tenants with him!

When a Tory government is calling time on buy-to-let property spivvery, maybe it's time to take your head out of your a*s.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/money/2020/feb/08/britains-buy-to-let-boom-is-over-we-should-rejoice

enricoh

pjohnson wrote: »

Then the should be made sell the house at a reasonable price. No selfish git should be allowed leave a house unoccupied as some kind of "statement".

Don't bother with the reasonable price bit, just go the whole hog n take it off them!

pjohnson

enricoh wrote: »

Don't bother with the reasonable price bit, just go the whole hog n take it off them!

Meh bit unfair but unnoccupied houses in this climate are a pìsstake so fine. Either rent/sell/loose

Zetor19

Gerry Adams.

Mad_maxx

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

A change of ideology might make a difference to begin with, after that there is new perceptive.

you honestly think ideology played any role in housing policy this past number of years ?

every crank and malcontent must be listened to in this country when it comes to planning objections , start with that obstacle

ILoveYourVibes

Zetor19 wrote: »

Gerry Adams.

:pac:

Experience in the demolition industry anyway!

Mad_maxx

Bees Tea wrote: »

Whomever it is I just hope they build all the homeless a forever home

dont forget those in DP , SF plan to open the gates there

Sir Oxman

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Eoghan Murphy will be the next housing minister.

'Leave it to the morkosh' Eoghan.


LOL.

enricoh

Yurt! wrote: »

When a Tory government is calling time on buy-to-let property spivvery, maybe it's time to take your head out of your a*s.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/money/2020/feb/08/britains-buy-to-let-boom-is-over-we-should-rejoice

Well there's 6 houses to rent in drogheda on daft at the minute, population 50k iirc. Landlords are clearly calling time on it over here.
If o broin got the gig i guarantee more anti landlord stuff would come in. This time next year there wouldn't be one house on daft!

Mad_maxx

Sir Oxman wrote: »

'Leave it to the morkosh' Eoghan.


LOL.

theyve been constantly meddling with the market

enricoh

enricoh wrote: »

Well there's 6 houses to rent in drogheda on daft at the minute, population 50k iirc. Landlords are clearly calling time on it over here.
If o broin got the gig i guarantee more anti landlord stuff would come in. This time next year there wouldn't be one house on daft!

Your looking at it the wrong way. It would be a great victory against the landlord class. :pac:

Mad_maxx

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

Your looking at it the wrong way. It would be a great victory against the landlord class. :pac:

the priority of the left (which includes SF , the activist and QUANGO sector as well as the media ) is to punish landlords , helping tenants is secondary , hence why o broin will do nothing for the plight of those seeking accommodation , unless of course you dont work , your probably sorted then

steddyeddy

Knox Magnificent Escalator wrote: »

Are people so naive to think that a change in minister will resolve the housing crisis. There are so many factors that are outside of the control of one individual.

Indeed but a privately educated recipient of all things privilege is going to be less clued in that most.

Idbatterim

People think it’s as simplistic as just changing the current ministers with” good “ones to get things moving here? Lol! We could have sorted out every issue in this country decades ago , if someone had only come up with that brainwave. Eighth Murphy wasn’t given dictatorial powers! He’s in fg who support rip off housing. Supply is ramping up hugely now. The one thing though that wasnt ramping up , is affordability for the working masses! Believe me , this wasn’t about ten thousand homelessness in Dublin , it was about hundreds of thousands in this city being held hostage by outrageous property prices !

stampydmonkey

Idbatterim wrote: »

People think it’s as simplistic as just changing the current ministers with” good “ones to get things moving here? Lol! We could have sorted out every issue in this country decades ago , if someone had only come up with that brainwave. Eighth Murphy wasn’t given dictatorial powers! He’s in fg who support rip off housing. Supply is ramping up hugely now. The one thing though that wasnt ramping up , is affordability for the working masses! Believe me , this wasn’t about ten thousand homelessness in Dublin , it was about hundreds of thousands in this city being held hostage by outrageous property prices !

Supply is and will be held at a level to ensure prices remain extortionate. Developers aren't stupid. Of the new builds completed, I'd love to know the actual amount that went to cuckoo funds particularly in city centre areas? The whole system needs to be refocused. Build affordable houses/apartments on council land and stop with all the commercial glass blocks in the city centre where everyone has to commute
in from the arse end of nowhere

Idbatterim

stampydmonkey wrote: »

Supply is and will be held at a level to ensure prices remain extortionate. Developers aren't stupid. Of the new builds completed, I'd love to know the actual amount that went to cuckoo funds particularly in city centre areas? The whole system needs to be refocused. Build affordable houses/apartments on council land and stop with all the commercial glass blocks in the city centre where everyone has to commute
in from the arse end of nowhere

You just put a proper site Levy in place , which is what any decently run country would do. Demand is so colossal though , that even with a lot more supply , prices will likely remain very high ... the commercial , mich of it nineties crap in the docklands can be redeveloped. Moving the port , as has been done on other cities, would release billions of euro for the government, you could house hundreds of thousands there! This has been suggested for Dublin before and I heard it suggested again recently ...

tabby aspreme

No matter who is minister, planning laws, labour shortages and inept country councils will still be here, just look at how the Rapid Build program has progressed.

frillyleaf

stampydmonkey wrote: »

Supply is and will be held at a level to ensure prices remain extortionate. Developers aren't stupid. Of the new builds completed, I'd love to know the actual amount that went to cuckoo funds particularly in city centre areas? The whole system needs to be refocused. Build affordable houses/apartments on council land and stop with all the commercial glass blocks in the city centre where everyone has to commute
in from the arse end of nowhere

I was trying to find this info out and it’s very hard to find how many family/ private buyers bought compared to cuckoo funds. I know of an estate in Maynooth that has a second phase completely snapped up by one investor and there is big need for families to buy houses, families to rent, students etc in that area

stampydmonkey

frillyleaf wrote: »

I was trying to find this info out and it’s very hard to find how many family/ private buyers bought compared to cuckoo funds. I know of an estate in Maynooth that has a second phase completely snapped up by one investor and there is big need for families to buy houses, families to rent, students etc in that area

I know of lots of developments where this has happened but would love to see the figured. Generally apartments but most recent was Mullen park in maynooth which is houses. Probably the same one your talking about. It's definitely more than fine Gael will lead you to believe

v638sg7k1a92bx

steddyeddy wrote: »

Indeed but a privately educated recipient of all things privilege is going to be less clued in that most.

Clued into what, macro economics for example. Do you really think the fact that he went to a private school would have such an impact on the housing supply, labour market, cost of land, property taxes etc etc etc.
Sounds like you just have a personal dislike for the man because of his social class.

splinter65

steddyeddy wrote: »

Indeed but a privately educated recipient of all things privilege is going to be less clued in that most.

The inverted snobbery in this post is staggering, and amusing too.

Jinglejangle69

steddyeddy wrote: »

Indeed but a privately educated recipient of all things privilege is going to be less clued in that most.

Lol Eoin O Brion is a blackrock college boy!!

The dearest private school in the country!!

v638sg7k1a92bx

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Lol Eoin O Brion is a blackrock college boy!!

The dearest private school in the country!!

On that basis, clearly not qualified for the job.

MrMusician18

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

A change of ideology might make a difference to begin with, after that there is new perceptive.

It won't make a fucking iota of difference. We don't have the construction workers to build these houses.

Not in the time frame demanded at least.

JohnnyFlash

As long as old ones and auld lads are living to ripe old ages and living at home then the 2nd housing stock won’t be adequate to meet demand. New houses will be built in commuter towns around cities, putting tremendous pressure on infrastructure. You can’t build infrastructure if you continue to divert money to social welfare. Unless you borrow. Which is already unsustainable.

It’s a hugely complex issue and there are no easy fixes. O’Broin will soon find out that ideology rarely translates to policy.

ShylockWept

O’Broin

Idbatterim

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

As long as old ones and auld lads are living to ripe old ages and living at home then the 2nd housing stock won’t be adequate to meet demand. New houses will be built in commuter towns around cities, putting tremendous pressure on infrastructure. You can’t build infrastructure if you continue to divert money to social welfare. Unless you borrow. Which is already unsustainable.

It’s a hugely complex issue and there are no easy fixes. O’Broin will soon find out that ideology rarely translates to policy.

Build far more in established urban areas. Dublin can Also go high rise I areas , like the rest of Europe did decades ago !

Idbatterim

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

As long as old ones and auld lads are living to ripe old ages and living at home then the 2nd housing stock won’t be adequate to meet demand. New houses will be built in commuter towns around cities, putting tremendous pressure on infrastructure. You can’t build infrastructure if you continue to divert money to social welfare. Unless you borrow. Which is already unsustainable.

It’s a hugely complex issue and there are no easy fixes. O’Broin will soon find out that ideology rarely translates to policy.

Give incentives for elderly to downsize. You want to provide mountains of housing in no time ? Allow log cabins , can be out up in days, for a pittance compared to house or apartment. Luxury compared to many block built kips people currently living in! There is serious ignorance over just how good they are. Go look at the Instagram pages of places that sell these and the end product, they are gorgeous! Well insulated. Sustainable. And many people can even do a lot of the building work themselves if in any way handy. Cuts down a huge amount on labour problem. Don’t think it would be implemented. But coujd orivide masses of housing in established areas , for a pittance. Or mobile homes or the shipping containers converted , that can be craned in.

frillyleaf

stampydmonkey wrote: »

I know of lots of developments where this has happened but would love to see the figured. Generally apartments but most recent was Mullen park in maynooth which is houses. Probably the same one your talking about. It's definitely more than fine Gael will lead you to believe

Yes, I would love to find out more about these figures. Private families can’t compete with investors of this scale. I often wonder if they have to pay rental income tax or are they taxed at different rates

frillyleaf

MrMusician18 wrote: »

It won't make a fucking iota of difference. We don't have the construction workers to build these houses.

Not in the time frame demanded at least.

We don’t have anywhere for them to live either

raze_them_all_

Why should the elderly downsize, sell your house, get money then pay solicitors and a stamp duty on it

frillyleaf

How did Eoghan Murphy manage to get a seat in his area? Can someone explain why people would have voted for him to keep a seat?

Will he be opposition and if so that will be a tough job getting torn to shreds for the next few years.

Airyfairy12

frillyleaf wrote: »

How did Eoghan Murphy manage to get a seat in his area? Can someone explain why people would have voted for him to keep a seat?

Will he be opposition and if so that will be a tough job getting torn to shreds for the next few years.

The middle class and wealthy people have benefited from the likes of him. The middle classes arent effected by the housing or rents. They dont care about how these things effect other people, they only care about themselves and their wealthy friends.. As far as theyre concerned, everything is great in this country, they cant see past the nose on their face. The poor people, the people working full time but cant pay their rent, its somehow their own fault, theyre lazy or stupid and wont either better themselves or work hard enough to live a better life.
Privileged people live in a bubble, they cant comprehend the struggles of other people. Theyre lacking in empathy and think their better than less well off people. So the cycle continues.