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Who will possibly be next housing minister ?

  • 09-02-2020 12:49am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭


    How will this work if FG FF SF are as close as exit polls suggest ?

    Who are the possible candidates for housing minister ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,403 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Eoin o broin.
    From a FF /SF / others coalition


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,829 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Eoghan Murphy will be the next housing minister.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭collywobble7


    Eoin o broin. From a FF /SF / others coalition

    This..for comedy value alone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,996 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Eoin o broin.
    From a FF /SF / others coalition

    A better grasp of housing issues than the current one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Eoghan Murphy will be the next housing minister.

    Cop on he needs to get elected first and that looks dodgy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    This..for comedy value alone

    Unless you have been in a coma even FG acknowledged he had good ideas about housing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,631 ✭✭✭votecounts


    This..for comedy value alone
    Why, can't be any worse than Eoghan Murphy who was a disaster and hope loses his seat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    Are people so naive to think that a change in minister will resolve the housing crisis. There are so many factors that are outside of the control of one individual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Are people so naive to think that a change in minister will resolve the housing crisis. There are so many factors that are outside of the control of one individual.

    A change of ideology might make a difference to begin with, after that there is new perceptive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Eoin O’B.

    The only man who makes Eoghan Murphy seem like a prole.

    Looking forward to seeing SF putting their policies into place regarding this issue.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Eoin O’B.

    The only man who makes Eoghan Murphy seem like a prole.

    Looking forward to seeing SF putting their policies into place regarding this issue.

    I can almost taste the lemon off that post. 'Prole' indeed as if any FG member would be happy with that application.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm waiting with interest to see if Eoin O'B gets it.

    Does he want to sit in opposition writing books about how it should be done or does he want to be the minister and actually make the decisions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,171 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Meh, if o broin gets it landlords will leave the market in droves. They are already but it'll compound the lack of supply.
    If yer renting just stop paying it'll probably be illegal to evict tenants with him!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 Bees Tea


    Whomever it is I just hope they build all the homeless a forever home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Well homes in general would be a good start ...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Eoghan Murphy will be the next housing minister.

    Hopefully not , his arrogance will be even greater than before


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,780 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    enricoh wrote: »
    Meh, if o broin gets it landlords will leave the market in droves. They are already but it'll compound the lack of supply.
    If yer renting just stop paying it'll probably be illegal to evict tenants with him!
    Then the should be made sell the house at a reasonable price. No selfish git should be allowed leave a house unoccupied as some kind of "statement".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    enricoh wrote: »
    Meh, if o broin gets it landlords will leave the market in droves. They are already but it'll compound the lack of supply.
    If yer renting just stop paying it'll probably be illegal to evict tenants with him!

    When a Tory government is calling time on buy-to-let property spivvery, maybe it's time to take your head out of your a*s.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/money/2020/feb/08/britains-buy-to-let-boom-is-over-we-should-rejoice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,171 ✭✭✭enricoh


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Then the should be made sell the house at a reasonable price. No selfish git should be allowed leave a house unoccupied as some kind of "statement".

    Don't bother with the reasonable price bit, just go the whole hog n take it off them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,780 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    enricoh wrote: »
    Don't bother with the reasonable price bit, just go the whole hog n take it off them!

    Meh bit unfair but unnoccupied houses in this climate are a pìsstake so fine. Either rent/sell/loose


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭Zetor19


    Gerry Adams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    A change of ideology might make a difference to begin with, after that there is new perceptive.

    you honestly think ideology played any role in housing policy this past number of years ?

    every crank and malcontent must be listened to in this country when it comes to planning objections , start with that obstacle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Zetor19 wrote: »
    Gerry Adams.
    :pac:

    Experience in the demolition industry anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Bees Tea wrote: »
    Whomever it is I just hope they build all the homeless a forever home

    dont forget those in DP , SF plan to open the gates there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Eoghan Murphy will be the next housing minister.


    'Leave it to the morkosh' Eoghan.


    LOL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,171 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Yurt! wrote: »
    When a Tory government is calling time on buy-to-let property spivvery, maybe it's time to take your head out of your a*s.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/money/2020/feb/08/britains-buy-to-let-boom-is-over-we-should-rejoice

    Well there's 6 houses to rent in drogheda on daft at the minute, population 50k iirc. Landlords are clearly calling time on it over here.
    If o broin got the gig i guarantee more anti landlord stuff would come in. This time next year there wouldn't be one house on daft!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    'Leave it to the morkosh' Eoghan.


    LOL.

    theyve been constantly meddling with the market


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    enricoh wrote: »
    Well there's 6 houses to rent in drogheda on daft at the minute, population 50k iirc. Landlords are clearly calling time on it over here.
    If o broin got the gig i guarantee more anti landlord stuff would come in. This time next year there wouldn't be one house on daft!


    Your looking at it the wrong way. It would be a great victory against the landlord class. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Your looking at it the wrong way. It would be a great victory against the landlord class. :pac:

    the priority of the left (which includes SF , the activist and QUANGO sector as well as the media ) is to punish landlords , helping tenants is secondary , hence why o broin will do nothing for the plight of those seeking accommodation , unless of course you dont work , your probably sorted then


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Are people so naive to think that a change in minister will resolve the housing crisis. There are so many factors that are outside of the control of one individual.

    Indeed but a privately educated recipient of all things privilege is going to be less clued in that most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,530 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    People think it’s as simplistic as just changing the current ministers with” good “ones to get things moving here? Lol! We could have sorted out every issue in this country decades ago , if someone had only come up with that brainwave. Eighth Murphy wasn’t given dictatorial powers! He’s in fg who support rip off housing. Supply is ramping up hugely now. The one thing though that wasnt ramping up , is affordability for the working masses! Believe me , this wasn’t about ten thousand homelessness in Dublin , it was about hundreds of thousands in this city being held hostage by outrageous property prices !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭stampydmonkey


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    People think it’s as simplistic as just changing the current ministers with” good “ones to get things moving here? Lol! We could have sorted out every issue in this country decades ago , if someone had only come up with that brainwave. Eighth Murphy wasn’t given dictatorial powers! He’s in fg who support rip off housing. Supply is ramping up hugely now. The one thing though that wasnt ramping up , is affordability for the working masses! Believe me , this wasn’t about ten thousand homelessness in Dublin , it was about hundreds of thousands in this city being held hostage by outrageous property prices !
    Supply is and will be held at a level to ensure prices remain extortionate. Developers aren't stupid. Of the new builds completed, I'd love to know the actual amount that went to cuckoo funds particularly in city centre areas? The whole system needs to be refocused. Build affordable houses/apartments on council land and stop with all the commercial glass blocks in the city centre where everyone has to commute
    in from the arse end of nowhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,530 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Supply is and will be held at a level to ensure prices remain extortionate. Developers aren't stupid. Of the new builds completed, I'd love to know the actual amount that went to cuckoo funds particularly in city centre areas? The whole system needs to be refocused. Build affordable houses/apartments on council land and stop with all the commercial glass blocks in the city centre where everyone has to commute
    in from the arse end of nowhere

    You just put a proper site Levy in place , which is what any decently run country would do. Demand is so colossal though , that even with a lot more supply , prices will likely remain very high ... the commercial , mich of it nineties crap in the docklands can be redeveloped. Moving the port , as has been done on other cities, would release billions of euro for the government, you could house hundreds of thousands there! This has been suggested for Dublin before and I heard it suggested again recently ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    No matter who is minister, planning laws, labour shortages and inept country councils will still be here, just look at how the Rapid Build program has progressed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Supply is and will be held at a level to ensure prices remain extortionate. Developers aren't stupid. Of the new builds completed, I'd love to know the actual amount that went to cuckoo funds particularly in city centre areas? The whole system needs to be refocused. Build affordable houses/apartments on council land and stop with all the commercial glass blocks in the city centre where everyone has to commute
    in from the arse end of nowhere

    I was trying to find this info out and it’s very hard to find how many family/ private buyers bought compared to cuckoo funds. I know of an estate in Maynooth that has a second phase completely snapped up by one investor and there is big need for families to buy houses, families to rent, students etc in that area


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭stampydmonkey


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    I was trying to find this info out and it’s very hard to find how many family/ private buyers bought compared to cuckoo funds. I know of an estate in Maynooth that has a second phase completely snapped up by one investor and there is big need for families to buy houses, families to rent, students etc in that area

    I know of lots of developments where this has happened but would love to see the figured. Generally apartments but most recent was Mullen park in maynooth which is houses. Probably the same one your talking about. It's definitely more than fine Gael will lead you to believe


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Indeed but a privately educated recipient of all things privilege is going to be less clued in that most.

    Clued into what, macro economics for example. Do you really think the fact that he went to a private school would have such an impact on the housing supply, labour market, cost of land, property taxes etc etc etc.
    Sounds like you just have a personal dislike for the man because of his social class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Indeed but a privately educated recipient of all things privilege is going to be less clued in that most.

    The inverted snobbery in this post is staggering, and amusing too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,039 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Indeed but a privately educated recipient of all things privilege is going to be less clued in that most.

    Lol Eoin O Brion is a blackrock college boy!!

    The dearest private school in the country!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    Lol Eoin O Brion is a blackrock college boy!!

    The dearest private school in the country!!

    On that basis, clearly not qualified for the job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,951 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    A change of ideology might make a difference to begin with, after that there is new perceptive.

    It won't make a fucking iota of difference. We don't have the construction workers to build these houses.

    Not in the time frame demanded at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    As long as old ones and auld lads are living to ripe old ages and living at home then the 2nd housing stock won’t be adequate to meet demand. New houses will be built in commuter towns around cities, putting tremendous pressure on infrastructure. You can’t build infrastructure if you continue to divert money to social welfare. Unless you borrow. Which is already unsustainable.

    It’s a hugely complex issue and there are no easy fixes. O’Broin will soon find out that ideology rarely translates to policy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭ShylockWept


    O’Broin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,530 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    As long as old ones and auld lads are living to ripe old ages and living at home then the 2nd housing stock won’t be adequate to meet demand. New houses will be built in commuter towns around cities, putting tremendous pressure on infrastructure. You can’t build infrastructure if you continue to divert money to social welfare. Unless you borrow. Which is already unsustainable.

    It’s a hugely complex issue and there are no easy fixes. O’Broin will soon find out that ideology rarely translates to policy.

    Build far more in established urban areas. Dublin can Also go high rise I areas , like the rest of Europe did decades ago !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,530 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    As long as old ones and auld lads are living to ripe old ages and living at home then the 2nd housing stock won’t be adequate to meet demand. New houses will be built in commuter towns around cities, putting tremendous pressure on infrastructure. You can’t build infrastructure if you continue to divert money to social welfare. Unless you borrow. Which is already unsustainable.

    It’s a hugely complex issue and there are no easy fixes. O’Broin will soon find out that ideology rarely translates to policy.
    Give incentives for elderly to downsize. You want to provide mountains of housing in no time ? Allow log cabins , can be out up in days, for a pittance compared to house or apartment. Luxury compared to many block built kips people currently living in! There is serious ignorance over just how good they are. Go look at the Instagram pages of places that sell these and the end product, they are gorgeous! Well insulated. Sustainable. And many people can even do a lot of the building work themselves if in any way handy. Cuts down a huge amount on labour problem. Don’t think it would be implemented. But coujd orivide masses of housing in established areas , for a pittance. Or mobile homes or the shipping containers converted , that can be craned in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    I know of lots of developments where this has happened but would love to see the figured. Generally apartments but most recent was Mullen park in maynooth which is houses. Probably the same one your talking about. It's definitely more than fine Gael will lead you to believe

    Yes, I would love to find out more about these figures. Private families can’t compete with investors of this scale. I often wonder if they have to pay rental income tax or are they taxed at different rates


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    It won't make a fucking iota of difference. We don't have the construction workers to build these houses.

    Not in the time frame demanded at least.

    We don’t have anywhere for them to live either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,780 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Why should the elderly downsize, sell your house, get money then pay solicitors and a stamp duty on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    How did Eoghan Murphy manage to get a seat in his area? Can someone explain why people would have voted for him to keep a seat?

    Will he be opposition and if so that will be a tough job getting torn to shreds for the next few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭Airyfairy12


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    How did Eoghan Murphy manage to get a seat in his area? Can someone explain why people would have voted for him to keep a seat?

    Will he be opposition and if so that will be a tough job getting torn to shreds for the next few years.

    The middle class and wealthy people have benefited from the likes of him. The middle classes arent effected by the housing or rents. They dont care about how these things effect other people, they only care about themselves and their wealthy friends.. As far as theyre concerned, everything is great in this country, they cant see past the nose on their face. The poor people, the people working full time but cant pay their rent, its somehow their own fault, theyre lazy or stupid and wont either better themselves or work hard enough to live a better life.
    Privileged people live in a bubble, they cant comprehend the struggles of other people. Theyre lacking in empathy and think their better than less well off people. So the cycle continues.


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