Saoirse McHugh Confused?

Just watching prime time,Saoirse contradicting the greens and acting like a renegade.

She will actually be dangerous to the greens contradicting their policies

Jinglejangle69

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Just watching prime time,Saoirse contradicting the greens and acting like a renegade.

She will actually be dangerous to the greens contradicting their policies

Same the other night.

The greens are head bangers but young people lap them up.

Victor

Deleted User wrote: »

Saoirse contradicting the greens

For those that didn't see it, do you want to explain what this was about?

riffmongous

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Same the other night.

The greens are head bangers but young people lap them up.

It's the policies the people want, not the politicians

Victor

Victor wrote: »

For those that didn't see it, do you want to explain what this was about?

It's on now so watch it

Shes totally against carbon tax, seemed unsure about the national herd position

Fann Linn

riffmongous wrote: »

It's the policies the people want, not the politicians

Do the polls say the people want either?

tayto lover

The Greens in Ireland haven’t a clue.
They’d break the taxpayers backs.

Iodine1

McHugh is simply a populist, hopping on any latest bandwagon going by. Tonight is typical "doesn't agree with carbon tax" a core green policy. Before she wouldn't go into gov with FF or FG, so who else is suitable? She couldn't answer.

McMurphy

Sure she has had Ming Flanagan canvassing with her.

Ming Feckin Flanagan.

Yeah, Ming who was also campaigning on behalf of the turf cutters.


Go figure.

bfa1509

It is bizarre the amount of airtime that airhead gets. She was in one of the big RTE debates before the european elections as well where she also made an ass of herself.

macapaca

After watching her there I'd say she'll muster up about 14 votes in the election God love her.

NIMAN

bfa1509 wrote: »

It is bizarre the amount of airtime that airhead gets. She was in one of the big RTE debates before the european elections as well where she also made an ass of herself.

1st time I'd ever seen her in a debate.

I had known she had done well enough in the Europeans, and had heard her mentioned on the radio as being in with an outside chance of becoming a TD.

As a result I thought she might have had a bit of cop on and intelligence, but it appears I was wrong.

gmisk

bfa1509 wrote: »

It is bizarre the amount of airtime that airhead gets. She was in one of the big RTE debates before the european elections as well where she also made an ass of herself.

She is not an airhead she is a genetic scientist with a masters.

I am not saying she is any good when it comes to being a politician, she isn't, but there is no need for the demeaning and sexist BS.

gmisk

Ballso wrote: »

Seems like the need to fill gender quotas these days is bringing in a much lower calibre of candidate

Your right we need some of the old male guard like this lad lol.
https://www.newstalk.com/news/monaghan-councillor-hugh-mcelvaney-breached-ethics-laws-sipo-finds-958001
There are good and bad male and female candidates imo.

Mervyn Skidmore

gmisk wrote: »

Your right we need some of the old male guard like this lad lol.
https://www.newstalk.com/news/monaghan-councillor-hugh-mcelvaney-breached-ethics-laws-sipo-finds-958001
There are good and bad male and female candidates imo.

This guy has ruined watching Man City games for me and my brother. Any time Sterling gets the ball one of us calls out "sterling" in a thick Monaghan accent.

Primetime is interesting.

Rural Ireland has made great sport of building isolated one off housing and now we're worried about rural isolation.

bfa1509

gmisk wrote: »

She is not an airhead she is a genetic scientist with a masters.

Some of the biggest airheads I know have phds. College qualifications mean nothing.

gmisk wrote: »

there is no need for the demeaning and sexist BS.

I think you mean equality. You better get used to it.

I don't know if you saw it, but Miriam completely levelled her in the interview. Is Miriam sexist too?

runawaybishop

NIMAN wrote: »

1st time I'd ever seen her in a debate.

I had known she had done well enough in the Europeans, and had heard her mentioned on the radio as being in with an outside chance of becoming a TD.

As a result I thought she might have had a bit of cop on and intelligence, but it appears I was wrong.

Whatever chance she had previously she recently said she'd cancel the Westport to castlebar road, that will cost her a mountain of votes.

artanevilla

bfa1509 wrote: »

It is bizarre the amount of airtime that airhead gets. She was in one of the big RTE debates before the european elections as well where she also made an ass of herself.

She buried Peter Casey in that debate.

gmisk

bfa1509 wrote: »

Some of the biggest airheads I know have phds. College qualifications mean nothing.



I think you mean equality. You better get used to it.

I don't know if you saw it, but Miriam completely levelled her in the interview. Is Miriam sexist too?

Calling someone an airhead is sexist and demeaning imo as I said, call her out of her depth and useless fine she clearly is as I said.
That would be equality, get used to what?!
I watched it...did Miriam call her an airhead like you? Nope, so why would she be sexist?

gmisk

artanevilla wrote: »

She buried Peter Casey in that debate.

That blithering idiot? It's not saying much, she was severely out of her depth tonight and in no way in line with her parties policies. What little hope she had of a seat is gone imo.

washman3

artanevilla wrote: »

She buried Peter Casey in that debate.[/QUOTE


Peter Casey got well over 340,000 votes nationwide.
How many do you think she would get.??

gmisk

washman3 wrote: »

artanevilla wrote: »

She buried Peter Casey in that debate.[/QUOTE


Peter Casey got well over 340,000 votes nationwide.
How many do you think she would get.??

If she slagged off travellers probably more would be my guess

Nijmegen

She’s basically an anarchic socialist. Says herself her ideal world is one where we return to local communities in self supporting environments with less / no industrialisation. Better for the planet, better for the soul and all that.

The Green Party has this fight internally between its fringe elements of various stripes and the practical get on with it Greens. Naturally she’s on one side of that debate.

She’s engaging (and actually quite funny at times in the way she’ll talk about things) and in fairness honest. A polished politician will squeeze out of a corner when asked something they don’t know, the honest ones look like they’re not informed rather than slippy. Take your pick.

washman3

gmisk wrote: »

washman3 wrote: »

If she slagged off travellers probably more would be my guess

Or if she called it as it is, as Casey did, and more importantly refused to back down when the PC brigade and D4 media tried to do a hatchet job on him, then she would definitely get more. I might even give her my vote then...;)

Dravokivich

gmisk wrote: »

Calling someone an airhead is sexist and demeaning imo as I said, call her out of her depth and useless fine she clearly is as I said.
That would be equality, get used to what?!
I watched it...did Miriam call her an airhead like you? Nope, so why would she be sexist?

You're just arguing that the same thing could have been said with different words, but becuase it wasnt said how youd like to see it, its sexist?

bfa1509

Heres the interview in question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCKDtxbpAu8

Farmer_3650

Shes just jumping on the bandwagon to support farmers to pick up votes. Just like ming was jumping on the green bandwagon. She was right in what she said about the westport castlebar road though. Its absolute madness.

Ronin247

gmisk wrote: »

Calling someone an airhead is sexist and demeaning imo as I said, call her out of her depth and useless fine she clearly is as I said.
That would be equality, get used to what?!
I watched it...did Miriam call her an airhead like you? Nope, so why would she be sexist?

I am not seeing how calling someone an "airhead" would be sexist!! Are you implying that airhead is gender specific?

whitey1

macapaca wrote: »

After watching her there I'd say she'll muster up about 14 votes in the election God love her.

Unfortunately you’re wrong....shell get thousands

charlie14

NIMAN wrote: »

1st time I'd ever seen her in a debate.

I had known she had done well enough in the Europeans, and had heard her mentioned on the radio as being in with an outside chance of becoming a TD.

As a result I thought she might have had a bit of cop on and intelligence, but it appears I was wrong.

Far as I know the vast majority of the vote she got in the Europeans were well outside the constituency she is standing in, so I doubt she had much of a chance even before her latest ramblings.

charlie14

Nijmegen wrote: »

She’s basically an anarchic socialist. Says herself her ideal world is one where we return to local communities in self supporting environments with less / no industrialisation. Better for the planet, better for the soul and all that.

The Green Party has this fight internally between its fringe elements of various stripes and the practical get on with it Greens. Naturally she’s on one side of that debate.

She’s engaging (and actually quite funny at times in the way she’ll talk about things) and in fairness honest. A polished politician will squeeze out of a corner when asked something they don’t know, the honest ones look like they’re not informed rather than slippy. Take your pick.

If McHugh is typical of Green Party candidates then Brendan Behan`s quote of the first item on the agenda being the split may not just be confined to republicans.,

Finty Lemon

Cull her with the sucklers Eamonn

gmisk

Dravokivich wrote: »

You're just arguing that the same thing could have been said with different words, but becuase it wasnt said how youd like to see it, its sexist?

You can be critical of someone without using sexist words.... revolutionary!

gmisk

Ronin247 wrote: »

I am not seeing how calling someone an "airhead" would be sexist!! Are you implying that airhead is gender specific?

Of course it is almost entirely associated with women when is the last time you heard a man called an airhead let alone a politician?

Rothko

gmisk wrote: »

Of course it is almost entirely associated with women when is the last time you heard a man called an airhead let alone a politician?

johnmcdnl

macapaca wrote: »

After watching her there I'd say she'll muster up about 14 votes in the election God love her.

She will be 'that one green that isn't as bad as the rest' which is really as good a position you can hope for as a green candidate in a rural constituteucy.

Arghus

bfa1509 wrote: »

It is bizarre the amount of airtime that airhead gets. She was in one of the big RTE debates before the european elections as well where she also made an ass of herself.

Nope. She did quite well in that debate. She definitely got the most favourable press after it, she hurt Peter Casey quite a bit on the night and helped to torpedo his efforts at getting a seat

But her performance on Prime Time tonight was a bit of a disaster.

gmisk

Rothko wrote: »

So 1994, 26 years ago a film and not directed at a male politician..

Ulysses Gaze

She's right about the carbon tax.

It's a waste of time and just generates money that will be pissed away by the Government, any Government, that gets into power on everything but "Green" projects.

Dravokivich

gmisk wrote: »

Of course it is almost entirely associated with women when is the last time you heard a man called an airhead let alone a politician?

Check out a movie called Airheads.

gmisk

Dravokivich wrote: »

Check out a movie called Airheads.

Maybe read the rest of the thread....26 years ago...come on now

cutelad

I'm anything but a green, but heck I'd give her a tick of some sort. She reflects reality, come up with proper solutions for retrofitting etc so people have an option. Not just lump another tax on. Greens don't stand a chance in rural Ireland as they don't understand the people. Dear god listeni g to Eamon Ryan talk about cutting the herd and planting trees is painful. Integration of wolves, car pooling all from a man from leafy Dundrum

_Brian

You have to admire someone who is such an idealist, however she has no intention of ever being in a government. So a vote for her is a wasted vote, why would anyone vote for a politician who i doesn’t want to be in government.

The greens could and should be something decent in Ireland, but instead they turned out to be our version of the U.K. raving loonatic party. Their visions for rural Ireland are like something out of the wizard of oz, imagine they are more feared in rural Ireland than FFG

Annasopra

She must be doing something right to get all this attention.

Eric Cartman

Mchugh is a pbp level socialist using the climate chamge deal to push her agenda, has a column every two weeks in thejournal and its the usual moderate to far left talking points with ‘because the environmemt’ at the end

Fann Linn

Someone called her an airhead and now that's sexist. I think that's the problem. They'll be bringing in the race card next as she's a woman of colour!

Uriel.

That was a bit of a car crash performance. She's either in the green party or she's not. Whether anyone thinks the positions are right or wrong, the Greens have set out a number of key policy positions and she doesn't seem to agree with a chunk of them. It was an amateur hour performance and its amateur hour from Eamon Ryan to have her on the ticket.

Eric Cartman

Fann Linn wrote: »

Someone called her an airhead and now that's sexist. I think that's the problem. They'll be bringing in the race card next as she's a woman of colour!

Watermelon, green with a bright red inside

Dravokivich

gmisk wrote: »

Maybe read the rest of the thread....26 years ago...come on now

It shows you that if you were to typically assign a gender to the phrase, it's historically associated with a men!

Amirani

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

She must be doing something right to get all this attention.

Catherine Noone got lots of attention yesterday, and Paddy Holohan got lots a week or so ago. Were they doing something right as well?

Generally the media will pay a bit more attention to you if you make a tit of yourself, shouldn't take it as an indication that you're doing something right.