Peter Casey Minister for Health

Plumbthedepths

So Peter if he gets elected would like to be minister for health. Sure why not , the present lad was ajournalism student ( not sure he graduated though).
A business man as minister could work. Although I'd be surprised if he gets elected.



https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/peter-casey-on-the-campaign-trail-my-ideal-job-would-be-minister-for-health-1.4144314?mode=amp

NSAman

“I’d give him one” says Mary Mcgee from Muff.....







(A vote...ffs)

LuasSimon

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

So Peter if he gets elected would like to be minister for health. Sure why not , the present lad was ajournalism student ( not sure he graduated though).
A business man as minister could work. Although I'd be surprised if he gets elected.



https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/peter-casey-on-the-campaign-trail-my-ideal-job-would-be-minister-for-health-1.4144314?mode=amp

He couldn’t have picked a lot easier constituencies to get elected in than Donegal .
Donegal is one of the few counties that isn’t destroyed by traveller crime .

Idbatterim

LuasSimon wrote: »

He couldn’t have picked a lot easier constituencies to get elected in than Donegal .
Donegal is one of the few counties that isn’t destroyed by traveller crime .

Racist !

Lackey

Maybe a business man/woman would be more fiscally sound with tax payers money.

HSE needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, cant see it happening....ever.

Clarence Boddiker

I have no doubt that Casey has privatisation of the health service on his mind. He quite possibly has American contacts/colleagues/partners planning on this very thing and ready to pounce.
Be extremely wary.

James Brown

Lackey wrote: »

Maybe a business man/woman would be more fiscally sound with tax payers money.

HSE needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, cant see it happening....ever.

Why would a business person put the tax payer first? The business model is about profit not good service and value for money.
Business people are the last people should be allowed near services.

mikemac2

He promised to give up the Presidential salary and instead give a monthly payment to each local authority. One Donegal councillor begged for this money

But the reason here wasn't some noble serve the citizens honour, he wanted to get the local authorities sweet so they would nominate him. :rolleyes:

alchemist33

LuasSimon wrote: »

He couldn’t have picked a lot easier constituencies to get elected in than Donegal .
Donegal is one of the few counties that isn’t destroyed by traveller crime .

Jesus, I didn't realise it was that bad. I'd better stay in Donegal so

donkeykong5

Peter Casey would be a brilliant taoiseach.

no.8

Privatisation of health care is not solely in the remit of the Americans. It exists in European countries as well (e.gm Switzerland and that functions well). So whether he wants that or not, please do more research before preaching

Lackey

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Why would a business person put the tax payer first? The business model is about profit not good service and value for money.
Business people are the last people should be allowed near services.

I'm thinking a business person could manage it properly,
The Children's Hospital debacle is a joke
People are still languishing on trollies, and endless waiting lists, OT waiting lists etc etc
right now patients and tax payers are not getting back out what their putting in
Anyone that could run it with a semblance of decency would do.
Business back round might help with this.

Clarence Boddiker

no.8 wrote: »

Privatisation of health care is not solely in the remit of the Americans. It exists in European countries as well (e.gm Switzerland and that functions well). So whether he wants that or not, please do more research before preaching

Do you really believe we would follow the Swiss model rather than the American model? Christ almighty.

Loafing Oaf

NSAman wrote: »

“I’d give him one” says Mary Mcgee from Muff.....

But only if he joins the Muff Diving Club

Have to make sure he's not some carpetbagger but rather a carpet...'lover'...

James Brown

The NCH was a private company asked to build it. The over runs wasnt because of public servants but government with eye off the ball and private business doing what it does, making money.
Privatising with our shower of politicians would be a disaster. 'Loadsamoney' councillors and I guess uncle Dinny will set up a medical company if FG are in at the time.
We need fix the HSE not hand it over to private profiteers.
The long waiting lists have something to do with consultants shilling for their private clinics.

Lackey

Matt Barrett wrote: »

The NCH was a private company asked to build it. The over runs wasnt because of public servants but government with eye off the ball and private business doing what it does, making money.
Privatising with our shower of politicians would be a disaster. 'Loadsamoney' councillors and I guess uncle Dinny will set up a medical company if FG are in at the time.
We need fix the HSE not hand it over to private profiteers.
The long waiting lists have something to do with consultants shilling for their private clinics.

I don't want to see health care in Ireland privatised either.
I think someone with a business managerial back round would be less likely to 'take their eye off the ball' and allow the massive over runs in costs to happen.

Who would you put in place for minister for health?

FrancieBrady

He's going after Leo.

https://twitter.com/broadsheet_ie/status/1218680993596477441

Augme

"My live 24-hour call centre for voters will be up and running by Monday. People can ring in with their issues and problems and leave video messages.We’ll come back to every person who contacts us. "

A 24 hour call centre where poeple can leave messages. Amazing technology. Hopefully he would brings these new, innovative and forward thinking ideas to the HSE. He would have it fixed in no time.

Couldn't think of a worse person to out in charge of th HSE. He reminds me of Del boy.

Phoebas

FrancieBrady wrote: »

He's going after Leo.

A free Ronnie Drew CD.
Did I fall asleep and wake up in the 90's?

gmisk

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Peter Casey would be a brilliant taoiseach.

What makes you think that?
I personally think he would be a fecking disaster he can barely string a coherent sentence together never mind be diplomatic

jimmycrackcorm

Lackey wrote: »

I'm thinking a business person could manage it properly,
The Children's Hospital debacle is a joke
People are still languishing on trollies, and endless waiting lists, OT waiting lists etc etc
right now patients and tax payers are not getting back out what their putting in
Anyone that could run it with a semblance of decency would do.
Business back round might help with this.

The problem with the cost of the children's hospital is as a former company owner said to me once. You wouldn't spend that money if it was straight out of your pocket.

q85dw7osi4lebg

Matt Barrett wrote: »

He should be told to f*** off back to 'murcia.

FYI: not a fan

Didn;t know he was Spanish!

Anyway, made a grand off him in the PE, so he can run all he wants and I hope he gets in.

road_high

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Peter Casey would be a brilliant taoiseach.

The man can barely string a sentence together. Taoiseach how are ya!

JMMCapital

I wouldn’t mind that actually, our country is currently run by teachers we need a few business people in power shake things up!

James Brown

JMMCapital wrote: »

I wouldn’t mind that actually, our country is currently run by teachers we need a few business people in power shake things up!

They'll be just better at fiddling.

JMMCapital

Matt Barrett wrote: »

They'll be just better at fiddling.

I highly doubt it everyone is held very accountable these days then I could be wrong, departments would be run a lot more efficiently though.

Dank Janniels

FrancieBrady wrote: »

He's going after Leo.

Leo? Is he running in Dublin or Donegal?

FrancieBrady

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Leo? Is he running in Dublin or Donegal?

Does he know himself?
He'll run where he reckons he can draw as much attention to himself. Seems to be his addiction.

zell12

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Leo? Is he running in Dublin or Donegal?

It is possible to run in both constituencies

banie01

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

A business man as minister could work. Although I'd be surprised if he gets elected.

The Yanks thought that about their Presidency, how's that working out over there?
Or the French with Macron?

Casey is problematic, but given the constituency he is running in will likely garner a vote.

There is a recurring theme that "business people" can improve government and that by bringing commercial sensibilities and blue sky thinking to a government they will also bring a new broom.

It's all bollox, when has it ever worked?
Anywhere?
It is simplistic in the extreme to assume that it could.
Health doesn't need a maverick who tells like it is.

It needs a minister who will have party support to face down the HSE, and the unions, to gut the current structures and rebuild it as a patient orientated care system.

It doesn't need an independent acting the big I am.

Boggles

The last thing we need is another blowhard sweaty incoherent simpleton.

But I imagine there will be dullards who give him a vote.

ratracer

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Peter Casey would be a brilliant taoiseach.

Yep, just what we need! Our very own Donald or Boris ;(

Idbatterim

FrancieBrady wrote: »

He's going after Leo.

https://twitter.com/broadsheet_ie/status/1218680993596477441

What a hero Casey is. I live it. Can’t wait to see what he puts up. The other candidates just run on the most boring platforms. He needs attacks launched on him. He’s a joke. Say ff and Fg win fifty percent of seats. A good new competent party for workers. Could have their vote. Many only vote for them as they seem as the least **** if the **** options and don’t want to not vote

Idbatterim

ratracer wrote: »

Yep, just what we need! Our very own Donald or Boris ;(

No we need the opposite of them , paralysis, waffle, inaction

donkeykong5

gmisk wrote: »

What makes you think that?
I personally think he would be a fecking disaster he can barely string a coherent sentence together never mind be diplomatic

I think he would be amazing. I like and trust him. He also is Irish and married and has a family. I could identify with him. He would be an amazing taoiseach. In my opinion.

Kivaro

banie01 wrote: »

The Yanks thought that about their Presidency, how's that working out over there?

I often worry about where people get their news.
It's actually working out fairly good over there. Record employment in the US with a booming economy and stock market, which coincides with a much better quality of life for ordinary Americans.
The fact that the democrats are trying everything under the sun including impeachment to stop him from getting re-elected, speaks volumes on the quality of their own candidates for President.

This experiment of electing a non-political President as the leader of the country seems to be working out very well for them. Maybe we should try it.

donkeykong5

ratracer wrote: »

Yep, just what we need! Our very own Donald or Boris ;(

Yeah I agree

FrancieBrady

ratracer wrote: »

Yep, just what we need! Our very own Donald or Boris ;(

More a Screamin' Lord Such than a Boris or Donald.

banie01

Kivaro wrote: »

I often worry about where people get their news.
It's actually working out fairly good over there. Record employment in the US with a booming economy and stock market, which coincides with a much better quality of life for ordinary Americans.
The fact that the democrats are trying everything under the sun including impeachment to stop him from getting re-elected, speaks volumes on the quality of their own candidates for President.

This experiment of electing a non-political President as the leader of the country seems to be working out very well for them. Maybe we should try it.

Record employment is a headline stat.
What is behind that stat is people working multiple jobs to be able to maintain a barely above poverty line existence.

I'd also point out that it's Trump's economic policies have caused huge cost to the US economy.
His stance on tariffs and protectionism has added cost directly to US consumers.
Those least able to bear those costs are those who are propping the "full employment" numbers.

I often wonder where some people learn to dissect economic data?

As for the election of a non political president here?
Our presidency is effectively non-partisan and a ceremonial position with quite a limited constitutional role.
If a business man can do the job, let's see him gain the vote to do it?

As a Taoseaich, given one needs to at least get elected in a Constituency and then win a majority of support in the Dail ..

I don't think we quite need to worry about a right wing mouthpiece getting that job just yet.

nagel

oh Hold on is it all right to slag off Casey for his manner of speech, so does everyone who has a speech impediment , fall into the category, what about the Minister of Finance, with regard to his view of our ethnic brethren does his view not reflect what a lot of others think, and is he not entitled to express it .
With regard to him being minister of health , didnt we have a doctor in that position and he couldn't wait to get out of it, Dr Leo

zell12

Casey is on the right track to led a party or the country
previous Health Ministers include:
Erskine Childers, Charles Haughey, Brendan Howlin, Michael Noonan, Brian Cowen, Michéal Martin, Mary Harney, Leo Varadkar

Omackeral

Matt Barrett wrote: »

He should be told to f*** off back to 'murcia.

He’s never lived in Spain afaik

Boggles

nagel wrote: »

oh Hold on is it all right to slag off Casey for his manner of speech, so does everyone who has a speech impediment , fall into the category, what about the Minister of Finance,

You are aware of the likes of Gift Grub, right?

nagel

Boggles wrote: »

You are aware of the likes of Gift Grub, right?

yep, relevance

Eric Cartman

Boggles wrote: »

The last thing we need is another blowhard sweaty incoherent simpleton.

But I imagine there will be dullards who give him a vote.

Nobody is talking about electing John Connors.

gmisk

donkeykong5 wrote: »

I think he would be amazing. I like and trust him. He also is Irish and married and has a family. I could identify with him. He would be an amazing taoiseach. In my opinion.

Irish, married and a family....I think you might like the Paddy Holohan podcast...
I am not sure any of those things would qualify someone to be a good politician.
Do you have to identify with someone for them to be a good leader?
I neither like him or trust him, I would be embarrassed to have him representing Ireland.
But hey each to their own.

Charles Babbage

While this might seem fanciful, if you give the like of Michael O'Leary the objective of reducing waiting lists then he would make a lot of changes and would do so in time. This might be a bit drastic, but there needs to be some impetus and decision that we cannot go on as we are.

Annasopra

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Peter Casey would be a brilliant taoiseach.

He cant even string a sentence together.

Annasopra

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Leo? Is he running in Dublin or Donegal?

Both apparently

gmisk

Charles Babbage wrote: »

While this might seem fanciful, if you give the like of Michael O'Leary the objective of reducing waiting lists then he would make a lot of changes and would do so in time. This might be a bit drastic, but there needs to be some impetus and decision that we cannot go on as we are.

Would you like oxygen?
No problem just swipe your credit card

donkeykong5

gmisk wrote: »

Irish, married and a family....I think you might like the Paddy Holohan podcast...
I am not sure any of those things would qualify someone to be a good politician.
Do you have to identify with someone for them to be a good leader?
I neither like him or trust him, I would be embarrassed to have him representing Ireland.
But hey each to their own.

Yeah I agree each to their own. I really like him and I think he was treated disgracefully when he ran for president by so many many in government and media.