Do the new Aer Lingus uniforms correctly reflect its values ?

The Rape of Lucretia

OK, all the key values we associate with Aer Lingus are there in these uniforms and they are unmistakably still the ones we expect of a national flag carrier,. But not sure that the weightings are quite right, and it seems to me that some are pushed into the background a little more that is probably true of the organisation. Which risks mixed messages or people getting the wrong ideas of what EI is really all about. Whats the opinion ?

RocketRaccoon

I think it's absolutely ridiculous they won't hire anyone with visible tattoos when wearing a short sleeve shirt.

There was also something stupid about beards in their application rules before too.

Etc

I think the models in the photo are 20 years younger than most of the cabin crew I encounter on Aer Lingus, so the new uniforms look like they could hide pot bellies and big hips quite well therefore reflecting current values.

anewme

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

OK, all the key values we associate with Aer Lingus are there in these uniforms and they are unmistakably still the ones we expect of a national flag carrier,. But not sure that the weightings are quite right, and it seems to me that some are pushed into the background a little more that is probably true of the organisation. Which risks mixed messages or people getting the wrong ideas of what EI is really all about. Whats the opinion ?

Where does it say what the weightings are?

People in the photo look great, professional and polished, but warm and welcoming.

Raconteuse

Spit it out TRoL, what ya on about? (Say AL too instead of EI - this isn't an airport, people will think you're talking about Electric Ireland).

HeidiHeidi

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

OK, all the key values we associate with Aer Lingus are there in these uniforms and they are unmistakably still the ones we expect of a national flag carrier,. But not sure that the weightings are quite right, and it seems to me that some are pushed into the background a little more that is probably true of the organisation. Which risks mixed messages or people getting the wrong ideas of what EI is really all about. Whats the opinion ?

Wha?

What does this even mean?

Are there subtitles?

One eyed Jack

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

But not sure that the weightings are quite right, and it seems to me that some are pushed into the background a little more that is probably true of the organisation. Which risks mixed messages or people getting the wrong ideas of what EI is really all about. Whats the opinion ?

I have no idea what this means, some values are pushed into the background a little more than is probably true of the organisation? Which values? I have no idea what their values are in the first place to be honest, so the only mixed messages I’m getting are from your post, as I have no idea what EI stands for either, or what it’s all about.

I did search though, and it seems they’re making a big thing of trousers for women being a new thing?

First Look: Aer Lingus reveals new trousers option for female cabin crew


I think the dress looks better than the trousers on women, but I can understand why they are given to promoting the image a woman wearing trousers nowadays as a reflection of modern airline ground staff and cabin crew. I don’t necessarily agree that it is, but I’m not too bothered about it tbh.

Church on Tuesday

Christ you're busy today aren't ya?

Makes a change from the pseudo West Brit trolling I guess.

freshpopcorn

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

I think it's absolutely ridiculous they won't hire anyone with visible tattoos when wearing a short sleeve shirt.

There was also something stupid about beards in their application rules before too.

I think there's other airlines like this.

I did a little in the hospitality industry before and if you ever wanted to be front of house in a good hotel tattoo's were a no no.


Basically they don't fit the image of the clientele they want to attract. Even tough times are changing and now they are more professional's with tattoo's they generally stick to their guns in my experience.

Larbre34

The uniforms are, as they say, grand.

Anyone who gets a tattoo or piercing in a readily visible area of their body does so with full knowledge that it can negatively effect certain job prospects. Its no secret, its eyes open, its nobody's choice but the person themselves, don't come crying to me.

Fr_Dougal

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

OK, all the key values we associate with Aer Lingus are there in these uniforms and they are unmistakably still the ones we expect of a national flag carrier,. But not sure that the weightings are quite right, and it seems to me that some are pushed into the background a little more that is probably true of the organisation. Which risks mixed messages or people getting the wrong ideas of what EI is really all about. Whats the opinion ?

You mean that there should be only one/ two men in the photo and 4+ women?

Women outnumber men three to one in the Aer Lingus ground and cabin crew

The Rape of Lucretia

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

You mean that there should be only one/ two men in the photo and 4+ women?

Its not about what I mean. Its what the uniforms mean.

"As with our logo and livery, our values as an airline are reflected," commented Aer Lingus chief executive Sean Doyle.

IAMAMORON

The skirts are toooo long.

anewme

IAMAMORON wrote: »

The skirts are toooo long.

Do you not wear yours midi length now? I hear it's all the fashion.

anewme

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Its not about what I mean. Its what the uniforms mean.

"As with our logo and livery, our values as an airline are reflected," commented Aer Lingus chief executive Sean Doyle.

But you said the weightings were off and no one seems to know what you are referring to.

Enlighten us.

Or maybe tackle the conundrum another way.

Give us one value that you see being pushed into the background?

This is like "give us a clue"

Raconteuse

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Its not about what I mean. Its what the uniforms mean.

"As with our logo and livery, our values as an airline are reflected," commented Aer Lingus chief executive Sean Doyle.

Oh so much clearer.

To answer your question: sometimes.

Laphroaig52

A private organisation updates their staff uniforms and it is national news in all the major media outlets carrying photos and video clips of the pretty girls....

Aer Lingus parades their staff in a 'fashion show' style video clip to show off the ladies in their new threads....

So maybe they are just dolly birds after all?
So much for Aer Lingus and their woke, gender diversity, liberal rah rah rah bullsh1t.

And yes, it is all about the ladies here. The boys are in the background to tick the boxes in their non-descript shirt, jacket and geansai.

Still, it's nice to see gender parity in the video with the two lads tagging along with the girls. Only, it doesn't exactly reflect the male/female ratio in the cabin now does it?

So Aer Lingus, what you doing about that? I know you're busy boasting about all the lady pilots you're hiring....

But, any chance of a break for the lads?
Maybe a contrived 'boys only' flight and a big media hoo-hah to show how woke you are?

Nah.....? Thought not.

Spook_ie

Does you mean they should have more color options, like rainbow for LGBT staff, or Red White n Blue for their British staff?

anewme

Laphroaig52 wrote: »

A private organisation updates their staff uniforms and it is national news in all the major media outlets carrying photos and video clips of the pretty girls....

Aer Lingus parades their staff in a 'fashion show' style video clip to show off the ladies in their new threads....

So maybe they are just dolly birds after all?
So much for Aer Lingus and their woke, gender diversity, liberal rah rah rah bullsh1t.

And yes, it is all about the ladies here. The boys are in the background to tick the boxes in their non-descript shirt, jacket and geansai.

Still, it's nice to see gender parity in the video with the two lads tagging along with the girls. Only, it doesn't exactly reflect the male/female ratio in the cabin now does it?

So Aer Lingus, what you doing about that? I know you're busy boasting about all the lady pilots your hiring....

But, any chance of a break for the lads?
Maybe a contrived 'boys only' flight and a big media hoo-hah to show how woke you are?

Nah.....? Thought not.

Are you protesting the women got no geansai?

Sheeps

I actually think Aerlingus Pilots look the best of all of the pilots. Their rain jackets are amazing.

Laphroaig52

anewme wrote: »

Are you protesting the women got no geansai?

Don't they have the little green cardies?
Are they gone now as well?
You couldn't make this up...

Raconteuse

Laphroaig52 wrote: »

Don't they have the little green cardies?
Are they gone now as well?
You couldn't make this up...

I don't get it - why not? What's so strange about that. The OP is being totally vague (they do that) - it's not clear at all what they're referring to (again, deliberate) so it could be interpreted whatever way people want.

I literally just see six people modelling as staff members - none of them are pushed into the background as they're in a straight line of six. Not sure what further I can read into it.

Maybe they're pretending they think there's racial disparity going on because there's only one black person and he's not in the centre? Some folk do that - pretend to see racism in order to stir.

anewme

Raconteuse wrote: »

I don't get it - why not? What's so strange about that. The OP is being totally vague (they do that) - it's not clear at all what they're referring to (again, deliberate) so it could be interpreted whatever way people want.

I literally just see six people modelling as staff members - none of them are pushed into the background as they're in a straight line of six. Not sure what further I can read into it.

Maybe they're pretending they think there's racial disparity going on because there's only one black person and he's not in the centre? Some folk do that - pretend to see racism in order to stir.

Op is being obtuse.

The black guy looks great...love his coat as someone else mentioned the coats. In fact, they all look well.

janja

Etc wrote: »

I think the models in the photo are 20 years younger than most of the cabin crew I encounter on Aer Lingus, so the new uniforms look like they could hide pot bellies and big hips quite well therefore reflecting current values.

They are not models they are cabin crew currently employed by Aer Lingus.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

I think it's absolutely ridiculous they won't hire anyone with visible tattoos when wearing a short sleeve shirt.

There was also something stupid about beards in their application rules before too.

If this is actually true (please let it be true ) then I instantly have more respect for Aer Lingus than I did before...

Hopefully more organisations can take this stance, so perhaps one day we can hope to rid our society of all the hipsters and McGregor wannabees out there!

That's what you get for walking out the door looking like a tramp, and then calling it fashion! :P

Canis Lupus

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

I think it's absolutely ridiculous they won't hire anyone with visible tattoos when wearing a short sleeve shirt.

There was also something stupid about beards in their application rules before too.

I assume the rules are available if you go looking but I was working for an airline at one point in the head office and browsing their flight crew handbooks the section on personal appearance is huge and detailed from allowed hair styles, to shades of make up. No tattoos is hardly surprising.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

Canis Lupus wrote: »

I assume the rules are available if you go looking but I was working for an airline at one point in the head office and browsing their flight crew handbooks the section on personal appearance is huge and detailed from allowed hair styles, to shades of make up. No tattoos is hardly surprising.

That's brilliant... love it.

Philipx

I find myself totally offended and outraged by the the image posted by the OP.

To think that something so blantantly discrimnatory can happen in 2020 is beyond belief.

Why are none of the lads wearing a skirt?

#outragedbeyondbelief

:D:D:D

Peregrinus

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

You mean that there should be only one/ two men in the photo and 4+ women?

You need as many men and women in the photograph as you have male and female uniforms that you want modelled. The numbers of each employed in the organisation are irrelevant in this context.

Edgware

Plenty of elasticated garments for the more fuller figure squeezing up and down the aisle I hope

carq

Hope this shade of green goes better with the various shades of orange fake tan the staff sport.

Hogzy

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

OK, all the key values we associate with Aer Lingus are there in these uniforms and they are unmistakably still the ones we expect of a national flag carrier,. But not sure that the weightings are quite right, and it seems to me that some are pushed into the background a little more that is probably true of the organisation. Which risks mixed messages or people getting the wrong ideas of what EI is really all about. Whats the opinion ?

Realistically speaking though, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


:pac:

Capt'n Midnight

Aer Lingus are busy trashing their brand. Along with the Heathrow slots it's what set them apart.

More than 50 shamrock designs were considered as part of the brand refresh process.

Completely pointless if you are going to paint the plane Eurowhite just like all the other generic carriers. You can't see the shamrock because there's 50 white planes at every European airport. Even a toddler can recognise the green plane.


And using Ryanair Blue for the seats ?
Oh that's special. Completely sending the wrong message.