Rebranding St Patricks day for a greener future

Paddygreen

It strikes me that we have a unique opportunity to take St Patrick's day into the 21st century by modernising the idea into a way to promote a green future. Of course St Patrick (whether he existed or not) should still be the central figure of the festival but the central message should be raising awareness about the climate emergency. We should use the platform that is St Patrick's day to encourage people to change their behaviour so there will still be a planet to celebrate St Patrick's day on in the future.

NSAman

Paddygreen wrote: »

It strikes me that we have a unique opportunity to take St Patrick's day into the 21st century by modernising the idea into a way to promote a green future. Of course St Patrick (whether he existed or not) should still be the central figure of the festival but the central message should be raising awareness about the climate emergency. We should use the platform that is St Patrick's day to encourage people to change their behaviour so there will still be a planet to celebrate St Patrick's day on in the future.

Introduce a Green tax on all Beer then served on that day!

drake70

NSAman wrote: »

Introduce a Green tax on all Beer then served on that day!

But only on green beer

Odhinn

NSAman wrote: »

Introduce a Green tax on all Beer then served on that day!

...then pay the tax to the people recycling the beer. Win-win.

NSAman

Odhinn wrote: »

...then pay the tax to the people recycling the beer. Win-win.

We tried that... it was called water charges..;)

James Brown

Didn't he make snakes extinct in Ireland? Hardly a role model.

NSAman

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Didn't he make snakes extinct in Ireland? Hardly a role model.

Far few current snakes he could make extinct in the country... shame he wouldn't come back!

One eyed Jack

Paddygreen wrote: »

It strikes me that we have a unique opportunity to take St Patrick's day into the 21st century by modernising the idea into a way to promote a green future. Of course St Patrick (whether he existed or not) should still be the central figure of the festival but the central message should be raising awareness about the climate emergency. We should use the platform that is St Patrick's day to encourage people to change their behaviour so there will still be a planet to celebrate St Patrick's day on in the future.

You see an opportunity to hijack a festival to promote an agenda that means something to you? How about no, your idea makes as much sense as the term “climate emergency”.

tabby aspreme

Paddygreen wrote: »

It strikes me that we have a unique opportunity to take St Patrick's day into the 21st century by modernising the idea into a way to promote a green future. Of course St Patrick (whether he existed or not) should still be the central figure of the festival but the central message should be raising awareness about the climate emergency. We should use the platform that is St Patrick's day to encourage people to change their behaviour so there will still be a planet to celebrate St Patrick's day on in the future.

Probably best if it were banned altogether, all those ministerial air miles, not to mention the air miles for the American marching bands, and on a local level, all the driving to parades to look at smokey vintage diesel tractors and gloriously smelly TVO tractors, driving by. The planet would probably last 10 years and 10 minutes if you banned LA le Phadraig

Comhrá

Great idea. We could have An Taoiseach and his acolytes cross the Atlantic by raft for the White House ceremonies and the NY City Parades etc.

Greta Thunberg could be invited to lead the main St Patrick's Day parade here in Ireland.

Only electric vehicles allowed to partake in parades and floats nationwide etc.

tabby aspreme

If they could form a government soon enough after the election, the Jeanie Johnson would have them in the USA for Patty's day.

freshpopcorn

We'll get Greta to sail here and paint her green!

NSAman

freshpopcorn wrote: »

We'll get Greta to sail here and paint her green!

She'd make a great troll!

colm_mcm

NSAman wrote: »

She'd make a great troll!

We don’t need to import those.

Paddygreen

Ireland has a unique opportunity to step into the international limelight when it comes to promoting climate solutions, we could make the theme of the festival green for real. We could actually incorporate it into outer national festival. Leaders lead by example. Several people I have spoken to really gel with the idea, which I know is in its infancy, ie needs a bit of work. That's why I'm throwing it out there. I don't know why I'm being met with flippancy and passive hostility.

NSAman

Paddygreen wrote: »

Ireland has a unique opportunity to step into the international limelight when it comes to promoting climate solutions, we could make the theme of the festival green for real. We could actually incorporate it into outer national festival. Leaders lead by example. Several people I have spoken to really gel with the idea, which I know is in its infancy, ie needs a bit of work. That's why I'm throwing it out there. I don't know why I'm being met with flippancy and passive hostility.

Maybe because we are sick of using OUR national day as a Political Statement?

Paddygreen

NSAman wrote: »

Maybe because we are sick of using OUR national day as a Political Statement?

It is an international day now. Toxic nationalism should be removed from the equation. Thankfully parades organisers are starting to realise this and have successfully in many instances raised awarness for Lgbtq issues, just one example. It is just so obvious to me that the festival is a perfect conduit for the promotion and desimination of climate solutions and the core principles of what it means to be a well adjusted modern human being.

NSAman

Paddygreen wrote: »

It is an international day now. Toxic nationalism should be removed from the equation. Thankfully parades organisers are starting to realise this and have successfully in many instances raised awarness for Lgbtq issues, just one example. It is just so obvious to me that the festival is a perfect conduit for the promotion and desimination of climate solutions and the core principles of what it means to be a well adjusted modern human being.

It's an Irish day!!! Purely an Irish day.... where the rest of the world want to be Irish.

It is not a political statement day... it is not a "GREEN AWARENESS DAY FOR GREEN ISSUES" it is a Day to Welcome all people to Irishness.....

Why do YOU people always have to try and destroy heritage with Stupid one liners like TOXIC NATIONALISM... grow the hell up.

Paddygreen

NSAman wrote: »

It's an Irish day!!! Purely an Irish day.... where the rest of the world want to be Irish.

It is not a political statement day... it is not a "GREEN AWARENESS DAY FOR GREEN ISSUES" it is a Day to Welcome all people to Irishness.....

Why do YOU people always have to try and destroy heritage with Stupid one liners like TOXIC NATIONALISM... grow the hell up.

"You people"?? Nationalism is toxic and should absolutely not be promoted in any form.

_Kaiser_

Paddygreen wrote: »

"You people"?? Nationalism is toxic and should absolutely not be promoted in any form.

OK I'll play along.

Why is that? What's wrong with being proud of one's nationality, culture and history or at least recognising it as something unique among others.

Or are you a believer that there should be no borders, no individual culture, and that the future should reflect that?

Lyan

Paddygreen wrote: »

"You people"?? Nationalism is toxic and should absolutely not be promoted in any form.

Oi, you can't go anywhere these days without seeing a bloody nagger.

Paddygreen

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

OK I'll play along.

Why is that? What's wrong with being proud of one's nationality, culture and history or at least recognising it as something unique among others.

Or are you a believer that there should be no borders, no individual culture, and that the future should reflect that?

Imagine if there's no countries, it's easy if you try.

One eyed Jack

Paddygreen wrote: »

Imagine if there's no countries, it's easy if you try.

You clearly know well why you’re being met with flippancy.

Paddygreen

One eyed Jack wrote: »

You clearly know well why you’re being met with flippancy.

It is a refuge for the ignorant imo.

After religion, more bloodshed has occurred from being proud of the accident of where one was born while attempting to impose the traditions and norms of the motherland on the natives, than for any other reason in history.

10,000+ years of suffering because of Springfield vs Shelbyville, its quite perverse when you boil it down.

One eyed Jack

Paddygreen wrote: »

It is a refuge for the ignorant imo.

You’re still here?

BattleCorp

Fine Gael suggestion.........rebrand St. Patrick's Day by moving away from green and putting more of an emphasis on tan. And black.

CtevenSrowder

Paddygreen wrote: »

It is an international day now. Toxic nationalism should be removed from the equation. Thankfully parades organisers are starting to realise this and have successfully in many instances raised awarness for Lgbtq issues, just one example. It is just so obvious to me that the festival is a perfect conduit for the promotion and desimination of climate solutions and the core principles of what it means to be a well adjusted modern human being.

Nah. **** off with all that ****e. LGBT issues can and are raised during pride (which is now a month long).

Paddy's day should be a non-political day of celebrating being Irish, which for most means getting gargled. And that's fair enough. Keep the politics out of it.

whisky_galore

Comhra wrote: »

Only electric vehicles allowed to partake in parades and floats nationwide etc.

You might have enough to run one, maybe two parades.

weldoninhio

Paddygreen wrote: »

It strikes me that we have a unique opportunity to take St Patrick's day into the 21st century by modernising the idea into a way to promote a green future. Of course St Patrick (whether he existed or not) should still be the central figure of the festival but the central message should be raising awareness about the climate emergency. We should use the platform that is St Patrick's day to encourage people to change their behaviour so there will still be a planet to celebrate St Patrick's day on in the future.

Junkets all over the planet. Tourists flying into Ireland. Diesel engines idling as they slowly trundle along with floats on the back. Cans and single use plastics ranging from flags to plastic glasses left all over the place.

Paddys Day is grand as it is.

conorhal

Paddygreen wrote: »

Ireland has a unique opportunity to step into the international limelight when it comes to promoting climate solutions, we could make the theme of the festival green for real. We could actually incorporate it into outer national festival. Leaders lead by example. Several people I have spoken to really gel with the idea, which I know is in its infancy, ie needs a bit of work. That's why I'm throwing it out there. I don't know why I'm being met with flippancy and passive hostility.

Because people are getting very tired of agenda pushers shoving their agenda into literally everything, that's why.

Not everything has to be about your neurotic obsessions, sometimes people just want to go out and enjoy a day of fun without being subject to yet another tedious lecture every time a mic appears at any occasion.


Do you know what would be novel? Actually making St. Patrick a central theme of the parade, when did it last actually have anything at all to do with St. Patrick?

Hector Savage

Tax and more Tax - that will solve everything

Thelonious Monk

It has to be the worst "festival" ever. We are just not suited to street parties. I went to Queen's day (now King's day) in Holland about 10 years ago and the whole of Amsterdam was in orange, millions come to the streets and drink beer and have boat parties, and there are DJs set up everywhere and little bars on the streets. You just couldn't do that here because of the amount of knackers who would kick off, and because the Gov wouldn't allow it anyway. It's sad to think Americans etc visit Dublin on St Pat's day thinking it's some great Mardi Gras type festival. It's f*cking sh*te.

Paddygreen

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

It has to be the worst "festival" ever. We are just not suited to street parties. I went to Queen's day (now King's day) in Holland about 10 years ago and the whole of Amsterdam was in orange, millions come to the streets and drink beer and have boat parties, and there are DJs set up everywhere and little bars on the streets. You just couldn't do that here because of the amount of knackers who would kick off, and because the Gov wouldn't allow it anyway. It's sad to think Americans etc visit Dublin on St Pat's day thinking it's some great Mardi Gras type festival. It's f*cking sh*te.

It is a waste of time as it stands . I don't drink and the parades leave a disgraceful mess in their wake.a couple of years ago I asked a rather scruffy looking inebriated gentleman if he would be so kind as to remove the beer cans he discarded on the.street and place them in a bin that was less than fifty meters away, I was met with a tirade of abuse and threats of physical harm. I waited at a safe distance until he moved on and did it myself. This is one of the reasons why this festivals needs a core value, such as raising awareness about the cli:ate emergency, to make it worthwhile and something we can be proud of. The opportunity is there.

NSAman

Paddygreen wrote: »

It is a waste of time as it stands . I don't drink and the parades leave a disgraceful mess in their wake.a couple of years ago I asked a rather scruffy looking inebriated gentleman if he would be so kind as to remove the beer cans he discarded on the.street and place them in a bin that was less than fifty meters away, I was met with a tirade of abuse and threats of physical harm. I waited at a safe distance until he moved on and did it myself. This is one of the reasons why this festivals needs a core value, such as raising awareness about the cli:ate emergency, to make it worthwhile and something we can be proud of. The opportunity is there.

Go way with your BS movement.

If you don't like it don't participate. If you don't like being Irish Move to the USA or some place. I'm sure they will be more than happy to listen to your silly suggestions about changing their National Holiday....Independence Day in the States could then become Independence from Carbon day!...(like that is ever gonna happen)

whisky_galore

It was a religious festival rebranded as a drinking festival.

Paddygreen

whisky_galore wrote: »

It was a religious festival rebranded as a drinking festival.

It should promote a message about climate change. It is the perfect Green platform., we should use it to show the world that Ireland is serious about the climate emergency.

whisky_galore

Paddygreen wrote: »

It should promote a message about climate change. It is the perfect Green platform., we should use it to show the world that Ireland is serious about the climate emergency.

LoL.
Good luck with it.

Paddygreen

Paddygreen wrote: »

It should promote a message about climate change. It is the perfect Green platform., we should use it to show the world that Ireland is serious about the climate emergency.

There is no climate emergency. Sorted.

tabby aspreme

Paddygreen wrote: »

It is a waste of time as it stands . I don't drink and the parades leave a disgraceful mess in their wake.a couple of years ago I asked a rather scruffy looking inebriated gentleman if he would be so kind as to remove the beer cans he discarded on the.street and place them in a bin that was less than fifty meters away, I was met with a tirade of abuse and threats of physical harm. I waited at a safe distance until he moved on and did it myself. This is one of the reasons why this festivals needs a core value, such as raising awareness about the cli:ate emergency, to make it worthwhile and something we can be proud of. The opportunity is there.

Is that you Aongus, have you turned green

Chris_Heilong

No, lets leave the activism out of everyday life......thanks.