Ring Alarm

maxamillius

Anyone got one? Looking for some feedback.

John_Mc

From what I've read, make sure your home insurance company accepts it as a home security alarm system. If they don't then they won't pay out if you have a claim.

I have Ring Doorbell Pro and it's excellent. Really happy with it.

Del2005

John_Mc wrote: »

From what I've read, make sure your home insurance company accepts it as a home security alarm system. If they don't then they won't pay out if you have a claim.

I have Ring Doorbell Pro and it's excellent. Really happy with it.

From reading in the home security system forum telling your insurance company that you have an alarm is a waste of time, you get a minimal discount but they have an easy get out if you don't use your alarm correctly.

Shefwedfan

Im looking at the Ring and the Yale.

In terms of price they are both coming in just under £900 but that is without the Camera indoor/out. Ring by the looks of it has the better camera to the Yale system but I am not sure and trying to read up on it at the moment.

Not sure about Ring integration, I like the integration between Yale and Philips as long term I plan to go down that route anyway so having the flashing lights would make sense. Need to read on Ring in terms of integration

caddy16

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Im looking at the Ring and the Yale.

In terms of price they are both coming in just under £900 but that is without the Camera indoor/out. Ring by the looks of it has the better camera to the Yale system but I am not sure and trying to read up on it at the moment.

Not sure about Ring integration, I like the integration between Yale and Philips as long term I plan to go down that route anyway so having the flashing lights would make sense. Need to read on Ring in terms of integration

£900 without cameras seems very expensive for ring or yale from the prices I've seen?

Shefwedfan

caddy16 wrote: »

£900 without cameras seems very expensive for ring or yale from the prices I've seen?

That’s just high level without looking around the websites for cheaper

Also I need a lot of kit to cover the house....22 sensors you start with

nc6000

I'm looking at the Ring system to replace my old Astec 63DV, it looks good.

Have you considered buying via the US and maybe using the An Post AddressPal service? https://addresspal.anpost.ie/

US Ring prices are much better but you may have to pay customs - https://shop.ring.com/products/alarm-security-kit-14-piece?variant=17900827803737

NewClareman

I’ve look at the ring doorbell, more than one, I’ve always been put off by the company’s poor data privacy record. This report would tend to confirm those concerns. Basically they collect and sell a wide range of data to third parties. They also tried to cover their tracks.

ted1

Shefwedfan wrote: »

That’s just high level without looking around the websites for cheaper

Also I need a lot of kit to cover the house....22 sensors you start with

Thats a lot of sensors. Are you sure you need that many? I know lots of companies are suggesting using PIRs instead of window sensors

Shefwedfan

ted1 wrote: »

Thats a lot of sensors. Are you sure you need that many? I know lots of companies are suggesting using PIRs instead of window sensors

Yes, wife wants to be able to walk around interior with alarm on so PIR a problem

2011

ted1 wrote: »

Are you sure you need that many? I know lots of companies are suggesting using PIRs instead of window sensors

They are not doing that for the benefit of the customer as it delivers a less secure system that has to be disarmed when the occupants are at home.

nc6000

NewClareman wrote: »

I’ve look at the ring doorbell, more than one, I’ve always been put off by the company’s poor data privacy record. This report would tend to confirm those concerns. Basically they collect and sell a wide range of data to third parties. They also tried to cover their tracks.

I was put off when I discovered they were owned by Amazon, you just know a "sorry, we were accidentally recording you in your homes and sharing the footage with third-parties. It won't happen again." type story is on the way.

NewClareman

nc6000 wrote: »

I was put off when I discovered they were owned by Amazon, you just know a "sorry, we were accidentally recording you in your homes and sharing the footage with third-parties. It won't happen again." type story is on the way.

Yep, the level of surveillance were becoming used to is unreal. Ring cameras have already been misused by third parties.

markc1184

So has anyone purchased a Ring system? Looking into them at the minute with a view to buying.

caddy16

markc1184 wrote: »

So has anyone purchased a Ring system? Looking into them at the minute with a view to buying.

Keep flipping between Ring & Ajax myself! No doubt Ajax seems a better system but at a premium. Been permanently as home now has delayed my decision!

Shefwedfan

markc1184 wrote: »

So has anyone purchased a Ring system? Looking into them at the minute with a view to buying.

Kepp just about buying and then dont....no idea why because I have bought all sorts of s**t in the mean time

Clareman

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Kepp just about buying and then dont....no idea why because I have bought all sorts of s**t in the mean time

I bought the Yale alarm system, I used it once and the robot vacuum cleaner set it off, haven't turned it on since #firstworldhomeautomationproblems :pac::pac::pac:

markc1184

caddy16 wrote: »

Keep flipping between Ring & Ajax myself! No doubt Ajax seems a better system but at a premium. Been permanently as home now has delayed my decision!

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Kepp just about buying and then dont....no idea why because I have bought all sorts of s**t in the mean time

I ended up buying a Ring 7 piece kit when I seen it on special a few weeks back and I'll add sensors and contacts to it as they are needed. I'm waiting to install it when the new door and windows go in, so I'll report back when I have in fitted a few weeks.

Shefwedfan

markc1184 wrote: »

I ended up buying a Ring 7 piece kit when I seen it on special a few weeks back and I'll add sensors and contacts to it as they are needed. I'm waiting to install it when the new door and windows go in, so I'll report back when I have in fitted a few weeks.

I had that special 3 times in the cart and then bought Apple Watch instead :-)

John_Mc

Got the Ring Alarm during the week and have it nearly fully installed. Strangely enough, Amazon wouldn't sell me more than 10 contact points in one go, including those in the start kit.

Installation was easy and it's great to have it all integrated with outside cameras and doorbells. My base station is using Vodafone for backup 3G.

Great price too!

68 lost souls

Clareman wrote: »

I bought the Yale alarm system, I used it once and the robot vacuum cleaner set it off, haven't turned it on since #firstworldhomeautomationproblems :pac::pac::pac:

Assuming its the PIR that set it off they have a separate "Pet Friendly" PIR

You can also switch off the PIR in the app and just arm the contact sensors. They have the gaul to charge 10£ more for it though when it should probably be standard

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yale-Sync-Alarm-Motion-Detector/dp/B07965RC94/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=57339317446&dchild=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxLH3BRApEiwAqX9arcifyGZVMfgOb6ZNAeTnSHykQ5wFuDEzjytaHgOgZoRtGxmPf72beBoCSmYQAvD_BwE&hvadid=291416165666&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1007850&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=5056858806079245761&hvtargid=kwd-316338651803&hydadcr=8462_1790182&keywords=yale+pet+friendly+pir&qid=1592559412&sr=8-1-spons&tag=googiehydra-21&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyUTBaSEYwTTJQVUtNJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDgzNDc0RzNVTE9CS1FOOU05JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyMzU2NzgxQVdFVjlYMklDWDY4JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

Clareman

68 lost souls wrote: »

Assuming its the PIR that set it off they have a separate "Pet Friendly" PIR

You can also switch off the PIR in the app and just arm the contact sensors. They have the gaul to charge 10£ more for it though when it should probably be standard

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yale-Sync-Alarm-Motion-Detector/dp/B07965RC94/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=57339317446&dchild=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxLH3BRApEiwAqX9arcifyGZVMfgOb6ZNAeTnSHykQ5wFuDEzjytaHgOgZoRtGxmPf72beBoCSmYQAvD_BwE&hvadid=291416165666&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1007850&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=5056858806079245761&hvtargid=kwd-316338651803&hydadcr=8462_1790182&keywords=yale+pet+friendly+pir&qid=1592559412&sr=8-1-spons&tag=googiehydra-21&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyUTBaSEYwTTJQVUtNJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDgzNDc0RzNVTE9CS1FOOU05JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyMzU2NzgxQVdFVjlYMklDWDY4JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

I should have gotten the pet stuff for the vacuum, I've setup a seperate alarm just for the doors opening but I haven't gotten into the habbit of setting the alarm, more laziness than technology issues at this stage.

phill106

Clareman wrote: »

I bought the Yale alarm system, I used it once and the robot vacuum cleaner set it off, haven't turned it on since #firstworldhomeautomationproblems :pac::pac::pac:

which yale one? im loooking into those at the moment.

Clareman

phill106 wrote: »

which yale one? im loooking into those at the moment.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07PNGQ962/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_w-X7EbBE5HHJQ

That's what i got, I didnt put up the door/window sensors as they were awkward for my doors, I didnt put up the external siren either as I didn't have access to a ladder. Seems a very decent alarm, I've never used it though so an awful waste really.

phill106

Clareman wrote: »

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07PNGQ962/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_w-X7EbBE5HHJQ

That's what i got, I didnt put up the door/window sensors as they were awkward for my doors, I didnt put up the external siren either as I didn't have access to a ladder. Seems a very decent alarm, I've never used it though so an awful waste really.

Looks good, would you be interested in selling off the sensors you didnt use?
Guessing you are in clare too!
I havent bought it yet, but was leaning towards one in that range.

Clareman

phill106 wrote: »

Looks good, would you be interested in selling off the sensors you didnt use?
Guessing you are in clare too!
I havent bought it yet, but was leaning towards one in that range.

I'll probably use them, my plan was to put them up for when we were going on holidays but that's going to happen this year

Rx713B

markc1184 wrote: »

I ended up buying a Ring 7 piece kit when I seen it on special a few weeks back and I'll add sensors and contacts to it as they are needed. I'm waiting to install it when the new door and windows go in, so I'll report back when I have in fitted a few weeks.

Got one last night ****ing quality system

68 lost souls

phill106 wrote: »

Looks good, would you be interested in selling off the sensors you didnt use?
Guessing you are in clare too!
I havent bought it yet, but was leaning towards one in that range.

I've a PIR I would sell off, using the alarm on the shed and have contacts on the door and window, PIR inside and have a spare PIR which obviously wont be used since its a single room.

Shemale

I got the alarm including cameras from the US using AddressPal as it was way cheaper than this side of the pond.

It works pretty well and is easy to set up, sometimes you simply cannot view the cameras I have 500Mb broadband with Virgin, the range extender isn't worth a ****e.

Also one of my sensors is faulty so I ordered one and two spares from the US using AddressPal (the EU and US systems are not compatible). The US sensors are 2nd generation and $19.99 each, so it was about $65 including shipping to US AP. However, their shipping company split the order, shipping each sensor separately :mad: so each sensor cost $19.99 + €16.99 (AP) and they put the cost on two of the boxes so even though shipped separately(no VAT if under €22) I have been charged €34 in VAT and An Post charged, so it worked out at €46 per sensor.

In terms of their plans, you are essentially being billed €10 a month for storage of the video footage and 10% discount off products(no use if you buy from us store like I did). In the US they get 2nd gen equipment, 10% discount and monitoring for $10.


If you are buying it will work out better in the long run to buy from the EU, hope this helps.

caddy16

Finally going to buy a self monitored alarm and having some amazon vouchers coupled with the prime sale, ring seems the best option.
Any feedback from people who have it installed?

John_Mc

caddy16 wrote: »

Finally going to buy a self monitored alarm and having some amazon vouchers coupled with the prime sale, ring seems the best option.
Any feedback from people who have it installed?

Have mine a year now and no regrets at all. Would recommend it

Nelbert

caddy16 wrote: »

Finally going to buy a self monitored alarm and having some amazon vouchers coupled with the prime sale, ring seems the best option.
Any feedback from people who have it installed?

Love mine. App works well and the whole system integrates well with home assistant so I've automations which are trigger by my alarm sensors.

caddy16

Thanks folks, if Amazon could sort out their Prime Deals I'll be buying.