An Taoiseach Michael Martin

Jonny one

6 months from today Michael Martin will be the Taoiseach, how does that make you feel ?

Sharp MZ700

Roger that Johnny One, over.

Zubeneschamali

Could be worse, as we see in the UK and US.

Cork Trucker

Micheal Martin as Taoiseach , Michael McGrath as minister for finance, Simon Coveney as leader of the opposition.

James Brown

That's the way we roll in the Emerald Isle.
It's tradition, 'well he can't be worse than the other fella' they'll say to themselves.

jonnybangbang

Jonny one wrote: »

6 months from today Michael Martin will be the Taoiseach, how does that make you feel ?

How does it make you feel that I don't care?

Cork Trucker

Matt Barrett wrote: »

That's the way we roll in the Emerald Isle.
It's tradition, 'well he can't be worse than the other fella' they'll say to themselves.

Aren’t you Leo’s significant other?

intellectual dosser

Jonny one wrote: »

6 months from today Michael Martin will be the Taoiseach, how does that make you feel ?

Any chance of a few Cheltenham winners while you're at it?

Sharp MZ700

Matt Barrett wrote: »

That's the way we roll in the Emerald Isle.
It's tradition, 'well he can't be worse than the other fella' they'll say to themselves.

There's no alternative is usually what I'm saying as I number my preferences. This time I'm numbering them back to front, regardless.

ruwithme

Jonny one wrote: »

6 months from today Michael Martin will be the Taoiseach, how does that make you feel ?

If it turns out to be true, relieved that leo,s not

Winning_Stroke

I don't see any difference between FF and FG, so meh.

StupidLikeAFox

Jonny one wrote: »

6 months from today Michael Martin will be the Taoiseach, how does that make you feel ?

As head of a coalition or full FF majority?

Ulysses Gaze

Jonny one wrote: »

6 months from today Michael Martin will be the Taoiseach, how does that make you feel ?

Ambivalent.

It will mean 10 years of Fianna Fail rule before they bankrupt, or nearly bankrupt, the economy as they are always wont to do.

Then Fine Gael back in. Then Fine Gael **** up.

And back to Fianna Fail again.

KWAG2019

I don’t know. I do know that I feel utterly betrayed, angered by FG and now energized to get FG out of office ASAP. How does that make you feel Johnny?

IAMAMORON

Given his association with the last FF government I find it sad and disconcerting.

People forget too easily.

James Brown

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Given his association with the last FF government I find it sad and disconcerting.

People forget too easily.

People are told that they are wasting their vote and the others are worse. So it's only ever really FF or FG and that's how they like it. It's only ever a matter of has one messed up enough to let the other back in. Grand bunch of lads.

_Kaiser_

Winning_Stroke wrote: »

I don't see any difference between FF and FG, so meh.

There's a difference alright..

FG are only voted in as a protest vote when FF lose the run of themselves, and only until they remind us why that is (they're even worse!), thereby making FF electable again!

All of this has happened before, and will happen again.

mickdw

Im sure both parties TDs make hay once in power but FG seem to do it with a complete F*ck you to every man woman and child in the country.
FF tend to throw a few goodies around while FG just throw the money at their wealthy supporters.

Redacted

appears to get every lucrative government contract.

Idbatterim

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Could be worse, as we see in the UK and US.

Hang on a minute, trump and johnson have got something done! we have the opposite issue here, total paralysis, you think thats better?

FF and FG are a joke, but you know what. the other "down with this, careful now" moron ditch hurlers, are probably going to be worse!

Fr_Dougal

Berties_Horse wrote: »

You deposited the same manure in AH weeks ago under a different account. You haven't much of a future here, how does that make you feel?

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112071507

Almost identical thread.

Zubeneschamali

Idbatterim wrote: »

Hang on a minute, trump and johnson have got something done!

Yes, I agree, they have made the return of Zombie FF seem relatively acceptable.

ILoveYourVibes

I forgot he was there tbh.

Wanderer78

Inevitable really. Ireland, the country where time doesn't change much

Wanderer78

Idbatterim wrote:

Hang on a minute, trump and johnson have got something done! we have the opposite issue here, total paralysis, you think thats better?

So trump and Johnson represents getting stuff done?

careless sherpa

Michael McGrath to assume new position as minister of the milfs

Idbatterim

Wanderer78 wrote: »

So trump and Johnson represents getting stuff done?

how quick after taking power did Johnson get years of back and forth finally resolved? Trump has us economy booming. Its the difference between action takers and moron wafflers with no real world experience, that we have here...

is_that_so

Idbatterim wrote: »

Hang on a minute, trump and johnson have got something done! we have the opposite issue here, total paralysis, you think thats better?

FF and FG are a joke, but you know what. the other "down with this, careful now" moron ditch hurlers, are probably going to be worse!

Hmm, this really looks like a Godwin moment but take your pick of equally unpleasant historical figures who "got things done". Why not fire off your own manifesto to every political entity in the country and see which will bite? Better still, stand for election and see what the public think of your vision!

is_that_so

Idbatterim wrote: »

how quick after taking power did Johnson get years of back and forth finally resolved? Trump has us economy booming. Its the difference between action takers and moron wafflers with no real world experience, that we have here...

Johnson has got nothing done. They haven't left and the end of Brexit is still a long way off and if the sole measure of Trump's performance on the US economy is the standard by what politicians should be defined I'd really question your moral compass.

Idbatterim

if they are meant to be worse than the snakes here, who take positions on nothing and do nothing. We can agree to disagree!

Kermit.de.frog

Fianna Fáil should have been deleted after the national economic crisis and the disaster they over saw. The fact they still exist says it all really.

Loafing Oaf

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

There's a difference alright..

FG are only voted in as a protest vote when FF lose the run of themselves, and only until they remind us why that is (they're even worse!), thereby making FF electable again!

All of this has happened before, and will happen again.

Only because the voters choose to make it happen...

rossie1977

Unless economy shows signs of dipping FG will remain in power.

Wanderer78

rossie1977 wrote:

Unless economy shows signs of dipping FG will remain in power.

Disagree there, I'd say more than likely ff and a few others next time round, with nothing really changing

Everlong1

Depressed if it happens as it'll mean back to the "throw money at welfare and public sector" vote buying politics and the inevitable crash which will follow requiring another decade of cutbacks to sort out.

hatrickpatrick

It absolutely boggles my mind how Martin is still leader of FF. Does no one remember that the crisis in the health service began under his ministry and that today's crisis is merely a long drawn out continuation of the one which began while he was supposed to be in charge?

Jonny one

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

As head of a coalition or full FF majority?

If FF win an extra 10/15 seats it'll be easy enough to put a majority rainbow together with/Labour/SocDems/Greens/independents

hatrickpatrick

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Fianna Fáil should have been deleted after the national economic crisis and the disaster they over saw. The fact they still exist says it all really.

I absolutely agree, and that is entirely the fault of Fine Gael for screwing so many people over with their post-recession policies (I'm not talking about bailout era policies, I'm talking about their policies in the 2016-2020 Dail term).

On the bright side, FG insiders have recently "warned" that the upcoming government looks likely to be "the most left wing government in the history of the state", so maybe the hardworking people in my generation will finally be able to get some affordable housing after FG spent the last eight years intentionally blocking it...

Idbatterim

Everlong1 wrote: »

Depressed if it happens as it'll mean back to the "throw money at welfare and public sector" vote buying politics and the inevitable crash which will follow requiring another decade of cutbacks to sort out.

isnt this exactly what FG are doing?

swarlb

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

It absolutely boggles my mind how Martin is still leader of FF. Does no one remember that the crisis in the health service began under his ministry and that today's crisis is merely a long drawn out continuation of the one which began while he was supposed to be in charge?

The crisis in the health service was looming long before he was minister. For a lot of people he will be remembered for the smoking ban, which was under his watch.

Dyr

It's gonna be Peter Casey as Taoiseach, Bill Cullen as Táiniste and Ming above in the Áras.

A wind is blwing boys.

Idbatterim

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I absolutely agree, and that is entirely the fault of Fine Gael for screwing so many people over with their post-recession policies (I'm not talking about bailout era policies, I'm talking about their policies in the 2016-2020 Dail term).

On the bright side, FG insiders have recently "warned" that the upcoming government looks likely to be "the most left wing government in the history of the state", so maybe the hardworking people in my generation will finally be able to get some affordable housing after FG spent the last eight years intentionally blocking it...

this is the laughable thing, rip off housing with fine gael or possibly even more taxes from every other party, that supports ripping off the workers with taxes to fund all the waste and wasters!

James Brown

Idbatterim wrote: »

this is the laughable thing, rip off housing with fine gael or possibly even more taxes from every other party, that supports ripping off the workers with taxes to fund all the waste and wasters!

Name one party promises to do that.

As for waste, that's what we have, NCH, IW, leasing and buying instead of building etc. etc.

Plumbthedepths

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Same circus just a different bunch of clowns. Nothing changes here in Ireland, just which political party's friends get to gourge on the taxpayers largesse.

IAMAMORON

Idbatterim wrote: »

this is the laughable thing, rip off housing with fine gael or possibly even more taxes from every other party, that supports ripping off the workers with taxes to fund all the waste and wasters!

Says the poster that is promoting a party that flung the country into the housing crisis in the first place.

These threads are nauseating, how ugly can a party get when they have to resort to online spin to regurgitate their own tripe. Awful lazy stuff.

With any luck the country will not have forgotten what a shambles the effeffers were the last time they had the wheel. They achieved nothing and delivered nothing …. except that they managed to make the country go broke.

Notwithstanding that they now have the audacity to try to get their paws on the wheel again? To do what , rip the country off twice?

Name me one positive thing mehole could do for this country? Just one liddle thing?

Such a useless spanner does not even deserve to be a TD, never mind run a government. He is so desperate to make it, he is employing a PR company to engage in an online FG smear campaign? I am not surprised … but I mean really, is this the type off plank you want taxing you and wasting your money?

FrancieBrady

The power swap back in full swing. 'Are you right there Michael...your turn.'

Idbatterim

The same would have happened under fg. They wanted more iettol thrown on the flames pre bust in the budgets. They are both a disgrace. Anyone arguing for one over the other , has to be dilusional!

Plumbthedepths

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Name me one positive thing mehole could do for this country? Just one liddle thing?

Tackle the insurance industry and compensation culture. Leo has no credibility regarding this matter considering the behaviour of Alan Farrell and Maria Bailey.

Idbatterim

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Tackle the insurance industry and compensation culture. Leo has no credibility regarding this matter considering the behaviour of Alan Farrell and Maria Bailey.

Doubt ff will do anything different , they are all pigs at the trough and they won’t stop the other pigs at the trough , their mates etc , believe me.

James Brown

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Says the poster that is promoting a party that flung the country into the housing crisis in the first place.

These threads are nauseating, how ugly can a party get when they have to resort to online spin to regurgitate their own tripe. Awful lazy stuff.

With any luck the country will not have forgotten what a shambles the effeffers were the last time they had the wheel. They achieved nothing and delivered nothing …. except that they managed to make the country go broke.

Notwithstanding that they now have the audacity to try to get their paws on the wheel again? To do what , rip the country off twice?

Name me one positive thing mehole could do for this country? Just one liddle thing?

Such a useless spanner does not even deserve to be a TD, never mind run a government. He is so desperate to make it, he is employing a PR company to engage in an online FG smear campaign? I am not surprised … but I mean really, is this the type off plank you want taxing you and wasting your money?

You could be talking about the current, which I think is the problem.

Plumbthedepths

Idbatterim wrote: »

Doubt ff will do anything different , they are all pigs at the trough and they won’t stop the other pigs at the trough , their mates etc , believe me.

My reply was in response to one little thing Martin could do ,as to whether he will or not I've no idea.

Idbatterim

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Name one party promises to do that.

As for waste, that's what we have, NCH, IW, leasing and buying instead of building etc. etc.

One party that promises to reward workers or increase tax on workers ?