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2020 In Between Grand Slam Thread

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  • Ferrer is a player I always admired a lot, if not enjoyed watching all that much. Could've won a couple of slams in a weaker era.




  • Well in terms of weapons (serve, return, backhand...), I can't see anything that Schwartzman has which is better than anyone else in the top 20.

    I see him as a solid baseline grinder with a good attitude, and he is far less flaky than many of the nex gen guys. However, those guys have more game when they are on it, which is why Schwartzman is going to find it difficult to win much in the way of titles.


    Thats possibly why he reminds me of Ferrer, who was often able to get the better of more flashy, flakey players such as Gasquet Berdych, etc. but didnt have the tools to beat the big 4.

    Ferrer had a great career, and i'm sure Schwartzman is going to have a very solid one too, but neither is going to get me out of my seat too often.




  • Decent match here between Nadal and Thiem.

    Thiem takes the first set on a tie-break. Nadal had a 5-2 lead in the breaker and had two set points.

    How Nadal responds to this should be interesting.




  • mzungu wrote: »
    Decent match here between Nadal and Thiem.

    Thiem takes the first set on a tie-break. Nadal had a 5-2 lead in the breaker and had two set points.

    How Nadal responds to this should be interesting.

    Decent match sure enough. I was impressed with Thiem in the TB, Nadal seemed to have swung it in his favour a few times but Thiem came up with a big play each time.




  • Ferrer is a player I always admired a lot, if not enjoyed watching all that much. Could've won a couple of slams in a weaker era.

    Thing is that he never threatened to beat any of the Feds, Djokovics, Nadals or even Murrays and Wawrikas in a grand slam (had a pretty terrible record against them in general even outside slams) and didn't have a very exciting style - like a less powerful Nadal.

    Although he was very effective against guys outside that calibre.

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  • Two very good tie breaks by Thiem to beat Nadal there, Nadal had his chances in both sets but Thiem was very steady when he needed to be.

    Nadal will almost certainly have to beat Tsitisipas to go through to the semis at this stage.




  • Thiem has beaten Nadal here at London and in Australia this year - both on hard courts - can it be said that he has his number on this surface?

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  • glasso wrote: »
    Thiem has beaten Nadal here at London and in Australia this year - both on hard courts - can it be said that he has his number on this surface?

    somewhat premature id say :)

    This has never been a favorite tournament for Nadal, (nor has Australia for that matter). Having said that he has never came into the ATP finals in fresher shape and will be disappointed if he doesn't at least make it out of the group


    Thiem was pretty good today, however and it will stand to him the next time he sees Nadal across the net....which could still be on Sunday!




  • lostcat wrote: »
    somewhat premature id say :)

    This has never been a favorite tournament for Nadal, (nor has Australia for that matter). Having said that he has never came into the ATP finals in fresher shape and will be disappointed if he doesn't at least make it out of the group


    Thiem was pretty good today, however and it will stand to him the next time he sees Nadal across the net....which could still be on Sunday!

    exactly

    both Oz Open and ATP finals both use the same surface (Greenset)

    not a big surprise that Thiem has beaten his in both locations - certainly a factor - especially at the elite level

    (US Open is different afaik)

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  • very solid win from Medvedev here, after a few very tight opening games he really pulled away from Djokovic who looked well rattled by the end.

    Something seems a bit off with the Djokovic serve lately, he is losing a far few service games which wasn't the case up to the past few months. He would need to sort it during the off season as he isn't going to win many more slams if he runs out of easy service games.

    Both Djokovic and Nadal now have to win their last matches to progress as far as I understand it, and neither is a gimme.

    Medvedev and Thiem are through to the semis...


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  • Sinner wins first ATP Title

    Youngest title winner since 2008

    #real-deal

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  • Yeah, him and FAA are probably the most promising of the the next gen, or whatever gen we're on now. Should be first of many titles for him, think he'll finish the year around 37/38? Would've been higher in a full season.

    Meanwhile, Sabine Lisicki is out of the game again with a torn ACL. Happened last week in a doubles match at Linz, think this was only her second tournament back after being off the tour for a year. She's been riddled with injuries for a few years now, and at the age of 31 it's difficult to see her making any kind of impactful return at this stage.




  • Nadal volleying very well. Great touch in his games so far.




  • whiterebel wrote: »
    Nadal volleying very well. Great touch in his games so far.

    he's serving like Sampras too...or was..

    Going to a third set, very enjoyable match so far




  • Djokovic beats Zverev in straights, semis will be:

    Naval v Medvedev

    Djokovic v Thiem




  • lostcat wrote: »
    Djokovic beats Zverev in straights, semis will be:

    Naval v Medvedev

    Djokovic v Thiem

    Ok, can these youngsters finally stand up here and beat these two old men?!




  • walshb wrote: »
    Ok, can these youngsters finally stand up here and beat these two old men?!

    Thiem 27 vs Djokovic 33

    Medvedev 24 vs Nadal 34

    Hardly youngsters vs old men, even in Tennis terms really.

    Decent few ahead in age of even Nadal in top 100

    https://www.tennis-x.com/ranking-stats/atp-oldest.php

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  • Rumours abound now that the Australian Open could be postponed to either a March or April start date. Victorian government has already confirmed that players won't be allowed fly to Australia in December, as most had already planned, to fulfil quarantine obligations. Looks like 2021 could be fun!




  • Thiem blowing match points here!




  • he did very well to find those six points in the tie breaker, the last cross court shot was vicious!


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  • Djokovic not on top form and probably would still fancy him against Thiem over 5 on hard courts in Australia but credit to him -Djokovic is still a bashtard to beat in knockout tennis on hard courts, even when the opponent has match point.

    To come back from 4-0 in the final set tie-break when it looked like it was gone, backing himself with some aggressive tennis was more like champion stuff and Djokovic said as much about him afterwards.

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  • Good day (good tournament) in terms of what's coming, Nadal and Djokovic both beaten twice despite playing fairly well.
    Djokovic won't get a better chance to win another one of these and Nadal might not either ( although it's moving to Turin next year, so might be on indoor clay)

    Really like this atp format too, good level throughout with no real blowout results




  • Medvedev takes it.

    ungainly sort of player but effective

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  • Cutting off Thiem during his speech was such poor form.




  • Augme wrote: »
    Cutting off Thiem during his speech was such poor form.

    Noticed that, Thiem looked a bit stunned by it




  • Next season is very nicely set up (assuming it goes ahead on a more or less standard timetable)

    - 4 different winners of the 4 biggest competitions this year
    - the next gen guys are maturing nicely
    - a couple of solid bolters making an appearance from the next generation down (Sinner, Auger-Aliassime)
    - apart from Nadal in the FO, I can't see a solid favourite for any of the Slams in 2021
    - Draws in general will be deeper and more dangerous for the favourites = more interesting for the viewers
    - Will be nice to see a fit Federer back for his farewell tour.

    Overall, 2020 was an excellent year for Thiem, with his first Slam, and Medvedev, who looks like he is will be around the top for the forseeable.
    Nadal had a good year all things considered, getting to 20.
    Djokovic had another year of lost opportunities really, even with getting to 17 Slams and achieving the joint record for year end No 1s. He is running out of road to get to 20+.

    I'm glad they got as much of the Tour back as possible post the summer, the availabilty of live sport is very helpful in the current situation.




  • Djokovic must feel obviously aggrieved I think this year

    Was definitely going to go on to win the US open and most probably would have won Wimbledon also.

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  • glasso wrote: »
    Djokovic must feel obviously aggrieved I think this year

    Was definitely going to go on to win the US open and most probably would have won Wimbledon also.

    Nothing definite in sport as Djokovic found out this year, probably the only exception being Nadal winning the FO year after year.




  • it's not the first time he hit a ball person but the last one was hawt, not some auld Karen-bag and she didn't go "full compo" mode

    and do a 3-movement-Oscar-death-drop to the floor

    Just brushed it off with a sexy smile and she had encountered a ball right on the head that was actually hit by Djokovic at full pelt

    If the reaction was less dramatic at the US Open, rules or no rules, I wonder would he have been disqualified....
    ,


    if you want to see a proper hit, when Shapovalov got the umpire in the face that was sore. He fairly whacked it.

    But even he managed to stay relatively composed even though that was an obvious disqualification due to the pure violence of it

    https://youtu.be/-JaFJ5A-RYM?t=28

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  • Federer won't make Australia even with the delay, looks like that's definitely it for him now. Maybe a farewell tour for the second half of the season is possible but highly unlikely he'll be competitive after so long out at his age.


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