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Red Cow "riot"

  • 02-01-2020 11:04am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,854 ✭✭✭✭


    Some snaps and vids about of a massive incident at an event in the Row Cow Morans hotel .
    Dozens of garda cars and the garda helicopter in attendance.

    Yet, no mention of it on any MSM news reports (nationally anyway) !?

    This report, and the footage of the brawls in Dublin city centre over the previous few nights is not good.

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    It's just another night that way. There's incidents quite regularly outside the nightclub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭TwoMonthsOff


    This is the diversity you wanted. Enjoy it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,088 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAM0B6RuQU8

    Is this the incident referred to?
    Certainly a lot of AGS present.
    I'm sure they would be needed elsewhere rather than trying to sort this out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Someone got served a pint of ribena by mistake...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭MMXX


    It's Cow of Colour.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Really really really really really dark Navy Cow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    elperello wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAM0B6RuQU8

    Is this the incident referred to?
    Certainly a lot of AGS present.
    I'm sure they would be needed elsewhere rather than trying to sort this out.

    Eejits standing there trying to video it instead of getting themselves away from it. Gob****es.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Funkytown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    The nightclub in the red cow (under whatever name it's going by at the time) is well known as a kip and has **** like this going back the 20 years since I've been old enough to drink. The blue banana in the village was similar

    If the papers wrote a story about every big kick off in a nightclub , they could have a dedicated paper.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    This is the diversity you wanted. Enjoy it.

    Diversity my balls. The Red Cow, the Spawell and Cocos were are like this when I went there the odd time in the 90s. This is nothing new, only the faces are new.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    The nightclub in the red cow (under whatever name it's going by at the time) is well known as a kip and has **** like this going back the 20 years since I've been old enough to drink. The blue banana in the village was similar

    If the papers wrote a story about every big kick off in a nightclub , they could have a dedicated paper.


    Absolutely. The Blue Banana was even worse, we were afraid to go there.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Telly


    It won’t be in the news cause they don’t want to be seen as racists by reporting it. Shocking scenes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,088 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Eejits standing there trying to video it instead of getting themselves away from it. Gob****es.

    A strange modern reaction to any sort of incident.
    I must say the last thing I would do in a situation like that is to take out a €500 phone and start videoing.
    In the middle of something like that you need eyes in the back of your head and to get away ASAP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Brian? wrote: »
    This is nothing new, only the faces are new.

    Your face is new ..


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Telly wrote: »
    It won’t be in the news cause they don’t want to be seen as racists by reporting it. Shocking scenes.

    You think every nightclub fight is newsworthy?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,818 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Oh my god a fight at a nightclub why isnt it all over the media?? It must be because they're black! I f*cking knew it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,854 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Oh my god a fight at a nightclub why isnt it all over the media?? It must be because they're black! I f*cking knew it!

    Well , they are black.
    Theres 20 garda cars there, and a helicopter !
    Do they attend every fight at every nightclub?

    Maybe the Guards are racist too then …… ?! :rolleyes:
    Or due to the amount of these mass brawls going on , they decide that it time (about time) they start kicking heads !

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,406 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Brian? wrote: »
    Diversity my balls. The Red Cow, the Spawell and Cocos were are like this when I went there the odd time in the 90s. This is nothing new, only the faces are new.


    Perhaps.

    That does not mean we, as a society, should shrug our shoulders and say "they happen to be of African extraction, so what?".

    This does not bode well for integration and what you are seeing in Ireland is the embryonic beginning of the trouble in other western European countries some of which have been dealing with for decades involving social disorder and rioting in minority communities.

    That is something we need to be concerned about and burying our heads in the sand is not the answer.

    I don't like seeing this like most.

    Most troubling from my perspective is whether the gardai and the justice system are properly equipped to deal with it. I'm sure i'm not the only one with concerns in that regard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,854 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Same carry on that has really escalated in other European capital cities of late.

    Ghettos and no go areas, burning cars, attacking innocent citizens.
    Its not a coincidence.

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,099 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    This is the diversity you wanted. Enjoy it.

    Indeed. It's a well known fact that there was never a fight in a nightclub in Ireland before de fordiners.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,804 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Indeed. It's a well known fact that there was never a fight in a nightclub in Ireland before de fordiners.

    True, we had enough of our own problems without importing more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    African Gangs and Travellers openly rioting and causing havoc is becoming common place. Multiple incidents in Dublin lately.

    If anyone has an issue with the wording of my post they can fook right off. I don't want to see this city at the rate of decline it seems to be heading in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭TwoMonthsOff


    Indeed. It's a well known fact that there was never a fight in a nightclub in Ireland before de fordiners.

    20 garda cars and the helicopter for a simple pub fight.. you can show some video evidence of something of a similar magnitude?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    I'm surprised at people's surprise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Just how many of these breakouts happened around the city with the heralding of a new year alone. Where are we going with this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Brian? wrote: »
    Diversity my balls. The Red Cow, the Spawell and Cocos were are like this when I went there the odd time in the 90s. This is nothing new, only the faces are new.

    Ah, the faces were new in 72 yet I'd spin them @45 anyday over Diversity ;)
    Stay with me....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Place always was and will always be a shíthole, no matter what name it's going by!

    It has nothing to do with "diversity" it's just an arsehole magnet due it's location.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    elperello wrote: »
    A strange modern reaction to any sort of incident.
    I must say the last thing I would do in a situation like that is to take out a €500 phone and start videoing.
    In the middle of something like that you need eyes in the back of your head and to get away ASAP.

    It's completely normal, aggression and fighting is part of their lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,088 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Hoboo wrote: »
    It's completely normal, aggression and fighting is part of their lives.

    Young people need to learn the ancient art of self preservation.

    ie. when trouble starts exit stage left.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭afkasurfjunkie


    20 garda cars and the helicopter for a simple pub fight.. you can show some video evidence of something of a similar magnitude?

    We have armed Garda support in Longford now. And it ain’t for the ‘Foreigner’ population. I’m sure there’s plenty of video evidence of that too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,161 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Brian? wrote: »
    Diversity my balls. The Red Cow, the Spawell and Cocos were are like this when I went there the odd time in the 90s. This is nothing new, only the faces are new.

    I went there back in the day quite a bit. Never were there helicopters or riot police. Maybe a few drunk wide boys kicking their weight around. Nothing even close to the scale of what was going on in that video.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Telly


    Brian? wrote: »
    You think every nightclub fight is newsworthy?

    Absolutely not. Did you see the videos of last night? There must have been about 30 squad cars and I don’t know how many guards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Telly


    We have armed Garda support in Longford now. And it ain’t for the ‘Foreigner’ population. I’m sure there’s plenty of video evidence of that too.

    Yeah but you can read about that in the papers. You won’t read about last night in the papers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭TwoMonthsOff




    Sure Harcourt street has always been a kip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    But surreal seeing those types amidst the backdrop of that wonderful Georgian architecture...


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I went there back in the day quite a bit. Never were there helicopters or riot police. Maybe a few drunk wide boys kicking their weight around. Nothing even close to the scale of what was going on in that video.
    Exactly. I've been in a fair few "rough" clubs and pubs back in the day and yep witnessed a fair few scuffles and fights too, but like you say nowhere near the scale of that or the Leeson street stuff.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    I wasn't bothered watching the whole video but when I scanned it I didn't see anything unusually bad for a rowdy closing time at a club with a rough crowd.

    That said if there really were anything close to 20 Garda cars and a helicopter there then that's a concerning drain on Garda resources and if An Garda thought they needed those numbers that's also concerning.

    Can't understand the argument many are putting on here that events like this should not be reported as they are business as usual and have been for decades. Nightlife in this country would not be sustainable if every club in the country needed a Garda helicopter and up to 20 cars to provide safety for patrons at closing time. The first step in addressing any problem, is addressing that it is a problem by bringing it out into the light.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,804 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    I wasn't bothered watching the whole video but when I scanned it I didn't see anything unusually bad for a rowdy closing time at a club with a rough crowd.

    That said if there really were anything close to 20 Garda cars and a helicopter there then that's a concerning drain on Garda resources and if An Garda thought they needed those numbers that's also concerning.

    Can't understand the argument many are putting on here that events like this should not be reported as they are business as usual and have been for decades. Nightlife in this country would not be sustainable if every club in the country needed a Garda helicopter and up to 20 cars to provide safety for patrons at closing time. The first step in addressing any problem, is addressing that it is a problem by bringing it out into the light.

    There's other videos of lads battering the ****e out of one another inside, glasses and chairs flying the lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Diva was always a kip; and that fight on harcourt street is not overly unusual.

    Time to unclutch the pearls I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    I must be drinking in the right spots.

    I’d be more interested my daughter is dancing in the right spots. Some don’t have such concerns!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭TwoMonthsOff


    Bobblehats wrote: »
    I’d be more interested my daughter is dancing in the right spots. Some don’t have such concerns!

    Ah my one is far from the age for being out dancing. But she knows the craic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,040 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Time for the Garda to step in and give those responsible a good hiding.
    These gangs are getting out of hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,540 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I find it notable that videos of fights of black people fighting get posted a hell of a lot more than people of white people fighting. It's great though, because you don't have to come out and say something openly racist, but you can intimate it by saying "this is the multi-culture society you want" and then claim shock when you're called out on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭TwoMonthsOff


    everlast75 wrote: »
    I find it notable that videos of fights of black people fighting get posted a hell of a lot more than people of white people fighting. It's great though, because you don't have to come out and say something openly racist, but you can intimate it by saying "this is the multi-culture society you want" and then claim shock when you're called out on it.


    Where is your evidence for this claim?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,540 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Where is your evidence for this claim?

    which part?

    please be more specific.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,088 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    everlast75 wrote: »
    I find it notable that videos of fights of black people fighting get posted a hell of a lot more than people of white people fighting. It's great though, because you don't have to come out and say something openly racist, but you can intimate it by saying "this is the multi-culture society you want" and then claim shock when you're called out on it.

    I think we should be "colour blind" in dealing with this type of thuggery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,824 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    everlast75 wrote: »
    I find it notable that videos of fights of black people fighting get posted a hell of a lot more than people of white people fighting. It's great though, because you don't have to come out and say something openly racist, but you can intimate it by saying "this is the multi-culture society you want" and then claim shock when you're called out on it.

    There sadly seems to be an issue with large groups of certain people gathering either for the expressed purpose of fighting or watching a fight.

    If you attach the labels "black" or "travellers" to this you will be describing what's happening but you will also be discriminating against them for saying so.

    So what happens? Nothing.
    Nothing is done to stop these problems because nobody wants to be seen to be a bigot.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Bobblehats wrote: »
    I’d be less nervous for her in a mosh pit. I don’t mind her wearing black; but not that sort..

    Pits are usually well regulated by those in them, anyone getting out of line gets put in their place pretty quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭TwoMonthsOff


    everlast75 wrote: »
    which part?

    please be more specific.

    You said videos of blacks fighting gets posted more than whites fighting. I'd like to know how you came to that conclusion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,540 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    You said videos of blacks fighting gets posted more than whites fighting. I'd like to know how you came to that conclusion.

    From my social media, where else?

    On twitter this morning there was footage of a fight outside a club on Harcourt Street.

    I come on to boards and here is another.

    I am telling you that is what is in my feed.

    Are you disputing the rest of what I said?


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