Friday 27th December

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Altior will be the star attraction tomorrow at Kempton for the Desert Orchid Chase.

Charcon Pour Soi defeated Defi Du Seuil by 4 and a half lengths in the Punchestown Festival and I hope that he could be the horse that could dethrone Altior in the Champion Chase at Cheltenham. He is a very hard horse to train so don't expect to see him too often on the racetrack. He is entered for the 1:10 Grade 1 Chase at Leopardstown tomorrow over 2 miles.

In Chepstow, the Welsh National is centre stage. Elegant Escape will try to successfully defend his crown and will go off a warm order for this grueling 3 miles and 6 and a half furlongs test.

I will give my best bet for tomorrow once full declarations have been made.

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Takarengo is my best bet for Christmas. Loves soft ground, has a good record in big field races on the level and has a shrewd trainer in Tom Mullins to boot. Looks sure to be the right type for this 22 runner 3 year-old hurdle race.

12:05 Leopardstown Friday Takarengo

MaxBet

Dec 27

2.55 Leopardstown -
SPIDER WEB 16/1 WHill , BetVictor

Gavin "shels"

Phil Hobbs sending one to Leopardstown? Interesting

RivetingRoger

Banner2theend wrote: »

Altior will be the star attraction tomorrow at Kempton for the Desert Orchid Chase.

Charcon Pour Soi defeated Defi Du Seuil by 4 and a half lengths in the Punchestown Festival and I hope that he could be the horse that could dethrone Altior in the Champion Chase at Cheltenham. He is a very hard horse to train so don't expect to see him too often on the racetrack. He is entered for the 1:10 Grade 1 Chase at Leopardstown tomorrow over 2 miles.

In Chepstow, the Welsh National is centre stage. Elegant Escape will try to successfully defend his crown and will go off a warm order for this grueling 3 miles and 6 and a half furlongs test.

I will give my best bet for tomorrow once full declarations have been made.

Hope it's not Altior mate

RivetingRoger

15/8 for Blue Sari seems big to me
Don't get me wrong, I like Abacadabras for the Supreme but Blue Sari got nearer to Envoi Allen than Abra did and Blue Sari also beat Abra when they met.
If closer in price, marginal preference would be for Abra, but at nearly 2/1 Blue Sari is appealing

Fury Road at 6/5 another one for me tomorrow

As for Chacun... Punchestown results mean little to me. People very stuck on him for beating a horse who had a very long tough campaign in Defi
A Plus Tard ew for me in that one

Elegant Escape very short in Chepstow but can't see him beat
Yala Enki ew also

Morgans

RivetingRoger wrote: »

15/8 for Blue Sari seems big to me
Don't get me wrong, I like Abacadabras for the Supreme but Blue Sari got nearer to Envoi Allen than Abra did and Blue Sari also beat Abra when they met.
If closer in price, marginal preference would be for Abra, but at nearly 2/1 Blue Sari is appealing

Fury Road at 6/5 another one for me tomorrow

As for Chacun... Punchestown results mean little to me. People very stuck on him for beating a horse who had a very long tough campaign in Defi
A Plus Tard ew for me in that one

Elegant Escape very short in Chepstow but can't see him beat
Yala Enki ew also

Disagree on elegant escape. Think he is big. 5/2 I'd guess as sp.

BumperD

12.05 Leopardstown Very Excellent 5/1 form working out
2:35 limerick Lady Breffini 13/2 fav very short and disappointed last time worth taking on ew
2:05 Wtherby Hawk High 5/2 NAP class act in this lineup
3:55 Chepstow Oneupmanship 3/1 NB chinned on debut this looks easier

yaboya1

Morgans wrote: »

Disagree on elegant escape. Think he is big. 5/2 I'd guess as sp.

5/2 for a top weight conceding at least a stone all round over 3m5f on soft ground. We're not talking about Desert Orchid or Denman here.
He was beaten off this mark in a bad Hennessy/Ladbroke last time and has been completely outclassed in Grade 1s when he's contested them. He's just not that good!
Definitely not good enough to be winning a Grade 3 handicap off a mark of 160 imo. Can't have him at all. 5/2 is shocking. Plenty of other horses in here will have been targeting the race for a long time and will be delighted to see him run so they get to carry a nice weight below 11st. I'll be shocked if he wins.

Morgans

yaboya1 wrote: »

5/2 for a top weight conceding at least a stone all round over 3m5f on soft ground. We're not talking about Desert Orchid or Denman here.
He was beaten off this mark in a bad Hennessy/Ladbroke last time and has been completely outclassed in Grade 1s when he's contested them. He's just not that good!
Definitely not good enough to be winning a Grade 3 handicap off a mark of 160 imo. Can't have him at all. 5/2 is shocking. Plenty of other horses in here will have been targeting the race for a long time and will be delighted to see him run so they get to carry a nice weight below 11st. I'll be shocked if he wins.

All weights are relative. Potters corner is interesting but there are far fewer horses that I give any chance to in this year's race. Also I'd watch the Hennessey again, and the Cotswold chase last year and the Welsh national if you want to see why he has a favourites chance. Biggest bet of the Christmas for me at 9\2 and will go in again in the morning.

SonOfGoat

Worst racing over the Christmas period I've seen in quite a few years, lots of 'has been' horses running and being trumped up. Might back one tomorrow but see what price it is.

Plasandrunt

All aboard Elegent Escape myself.

Also Duc De Genevries, SR wont like the ground and I dont get the faith in Capeland?,

MaxBet

2.20 Leopardstown -

MOON OVER GERMANY 8/1 generally

TARA DYLAN 0.5pt EW @ 66/1 generally
(6 places PP)

GOT TRUMPED 0.5pt EW @ 40/1 generally
(35/1 6 places PP)



2.55 Leopardstown -

SPIDER WEB 16/1 WHill , BetVictor (backed earlier 20s now with BV / Coral)

ROBIN DES FORET 20/1 generally

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MaxBet wrote: »

2.20 Leopardstown -

MOON OVER GERMANY 8/1 generally

TARA DYLAN 0.5pt EW @ 66/1 generally
(6 places PP)

GOT TRUMPED 0.5pt EW @ 40/1 generally
(35/1 6 places PP)



2.55 Leopardstown -

SPIDER WEB 16/1 WHill , BetVictor (backed earlier 20s now with BV / Coral)

ROBIN DES FORET 20/1 generally

Got Trumped is one that I really fancy at a big price also MaxBet. Loves soft ground and has had wind surgery also. Get the earliest price on the Jessica Harrington trained 4 year old, as he could start 12/1 or 14/1 or shorter come off time.

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RivetingRoger wrote: »

Hope it's not Altior mate

Nothing against Altior at all Rog. Just would love to see an Irish trained winner of the Champion Chase at Cheltenham, which has been mainly dominated by Nicky Henderson and Paul Nicholls in recent times.

Douvan (currently out of action due to injury) and Charcon Pour Soi in particular are our two main hopes for the March 11th 2020 blue ribboned event of two mile chasing. Personally I fear the worst with Douvan, the Clonmel win could be the last time we see him on a racecourse. I hope I'll be proved wrong!

As for Charcon Pour Soi, he is very much in the "could be anything" category. Really excited to see what he has to offer today. He is very short odds too, which reflects confidence in him within Closutton.

RivetingRoger

SonOfGoat wrote: »

Worst racing over the Christmas period I've seen in quite a few years, lots of 'has been' horses running and being trumped up. Might back one tomorrow but see what price it is.

Says boards resident neverbeen

RivetingRoger

Banner2theend wrote: »

Nothing against Altior at all Rog. Just would love to see an Irish trained winner of the Champion Chase at Cheltenham, which has been mainly dominated by Nicky Henderson and Paul Nicholls in recent times.

Douvan (currently out of action due to injury) and Charcon Pour Soi in particular are our two main hopes for the March 11th 2020 blue ribboned event of two mile chasing. Personally I fear the worst with Douvan, the Clonmel win could be the last time we see him on a racecourse. I hope I'll be proved wrong!

As for Charcon Pour Soi, he is very much in the "could be anything" category. Really excited to see what he has to offer today. He is very short odds too, which reflects confidence in him within Closutton.

Think you misinterpreted my post banner

Defi just wins the champion chase this year lad
Start backing it ASAP

RivetingRoger

City Island or Melon today lads?
Abacadabras or Blue Sari?

Plasandrunt

Singles on Duc De Genevries and Melon.

Treble of Elegent Escape, Abracadbras and Benie des Dieux (tomorrow,)

Morgans

yaboya1 wrote: »

5/2 for a top weight conceding at least a stone all round over 3m5f on soft ground. We're not talking about Desert Orchid or Denman here.
He was beaten off this mark in a bad Hennessy/Ladbroke last time and has been completely outclassed in Grade 1s when he's contested them. He's just not that good!
Definitely not good enough to be winning a Grade 3 handicap off a mark of 160 imo. Can't have him at all. 5/2 is shocking. Plenty of other horses in here will have been targeting the race for a long time and will be delighted to see him run so they get to carry a nice weight below 11st. I'll be shocked if he wins.

Rightly or wrongly, the 7/2 is gone. 3/1 best now. 11/4 in many places.

Riquelme

Fanion with a big chance to stamp his claims on the Arkle today

MMyers

Has Katie Price entered the competition yet?

The Mig

Gonna go with an E/W Super Yankee

Eva's Oskar 2:10 Chep 11/1
Truckers Lodge 2:50 Chep 11/1
Molly Childers 1:55 Kemp 8/1
Shumaker 2:20 Leop 12/1
Spider Web 2:55 Leop 20/1

Plasandrunt

RivetingRoger wrote: »

City Island or Melon today lads?
Abacadabras or Blue Sari?

Cant shake the feeling that City Islsnd had his day in the sun and wont be pulling up any trees. Couldn't believe that Melon is odds against.

yaboya1

Morgans wrote: »

Rightly or wrongly, the 7/2 is gone. 3/1 best now. 11/4 in many places.

Yes. People are mad.

MaxBet

Banner2theend wrote: »

Takarengo is my best bet for Christmas. Loves soft ground, has a good record in big field races on the level and has a shrewd trainer in Tom Mullins to boot. Looks sure to be the right type for this 22 runner 3 year-old hurdle race.

12:05 Leopardstown Friday Takarengo

I held off on 8s yesterday in the hope of 10s early today , no chance

Looks a good bet now , good luck

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MaxBet wrote: »

I held off on 8s yesterday in the hope of 10s early today , no chance

Looks a good bet now , good luck

I expected 8/1 to be his peak price and so it has proved. I've no interest in online betting, but did open at that price in most of the bookmakers opening shows for that 12:05 Leopardstown race, just after 5:15 pm yesterday evening.

Now a general 7/2 shot. Could easily start as favorite now.

MaxBet

Did a tissue on a few in it as best I could and I had him around 8/1 so wanted 10s or more for a bet . Doesn’t look that strong a maiden does it

Hopefully it’s a good day for the trainer later on too

Lucy8080

I like the look of Poker Party - 2.55 Leopardstown.

A lot of firms are paying 5 or 6 places on this one. P.P. are paying 7 places online.

10/1 generally available . 11/1 with some.

MaxBet

MaxBet wrote: »

2.20 Leopardstown -

MOON OVER GERMANY 8/1 generally

TARA DYLAN 0.5pt EW @ 66/1 generally
(6 places PP)

GOT TRUMPED 0.5pt EW @ 40/1 generally
(35/1 6 places PP)



2.55 Leopardstown -

SPIDER WEB 16/1 WHill , BetVictor (backed earlier 20s now with BV / Coral)

ROBIN DES FORET 20/1 generally

Adding another 1/2pt ....


2.20 Leopardstown -
GOT TRUMPED 0.5pt win @ 33/1 generally

IAMAMORON

Spiders web ew

Johnjo o neils in the welsh national. Poprockstar

ON ZEE BRIDLE

Fancy Blue Sari to turn over the Elliot joke. Moon Over Germay and Fitzhenry Ew in the big hcapp

longshotvalue

Went for

Looks like power with good course form on ground in the welsh national at 80/1 5 places.

Roaring bull in paddy power , decent ground will help , unexposed decent mark . 33/1 7 places

I'd love to know what McInerney was up to on Ciel De Neige there.

The Mig

Rachel is some jock

Another belter from Blackmore.

BumperD

A plus tard was put up a few places at 10’s , impressive

John.Icy

Very disappointing.

A Plus Tard is a good horse though. Hope plenty were on it at 4/1.

Riquelme

Amazing how things look like they might work out for Altior.

howareyakid

Another huge result for Rachael

ON ZEE BRIDLE

Rachel class act.Better than anybof those female English jockeys by a mile

Dr. Bre

SonOfGoat wrote: »

Worst racing over the Christmas period I've seen in quite a few years, lots of 'has been' horses running and being trumped up. Might back one tomorrow but see what price it is.

Harsh !

The Mig

Allmankind looks a bit of a weapon

WicklowBravee

Gun Digger 66/1 in the Paddy Power. 2:55 iirc

BumperD

Cerbus looks at expensive purchase now

Riquelme

BumperD wrote: »

Cerbus looks at expensive purchase now

Has nothing on his canine namesake from Man About Dog.

On a side note, just how bloody good is Envoi Allen.

Slattsy

Abacadabras wins the Supreme and Envoi Allen wins the Ballymore. Its science.

BumperD

Anyone know which of JP,s is trying?

Aidan Harney

Does the information below look solid?
I put a bet on and it came in, horse was second, I expected better returns?
IF yes, thanks for looking. If not, I guess I contact paddy power?
Any second opinion sought..


27th Dec LIMERICK 14:35 2M 4F HURDLE 2m 4f - Each Way
2. Lady Breffni
8/1
E/W Terms: 1/5 Odds | 3 Places
Stake: €6.00
Returns: €7.80

BumperD

Aidan Harney wrote: »

Does the information below look solid?
I put a bet on and it came in, horse was second, I expected better returns?
IF yes, thanks for looking. If not, I guess I contact paddy power?
Any second opinion sought..


27th Dec LIMERICK 14:35 2M 4F HURDLE 2m 4f - Each Way
2. Lady Breffni
8/1
E/W Terms: 1/5 Odds | 3 Places
Stake: €6.00
Returns: €7.80

That’s spot on 1/5th the odds for a place