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Are eircom.net or eir.net addresses being phased out in future? Dad doesnt want gmail

  • 17-12-2019 11:05am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,643 ✭✭✭


    Old dad doesnt want gmail and wants to stick with his eir account for everything ... never travels and uses a PC

    Are there any plans to phase it out ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    worded wrote: »
    Old dad doesnt want gmail and wants to stick with his eir account for everything ... never travels and uses a PC

    Are there any plans to phase it out ?

    I have not received any notification of that, has he?

    Is there some other reason to move to gmail?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,643 ✭✭✭worded


    I’m just wondering if there is a plan to phase it out

    Vodafone did it

    If so has to bite the bullet sooner than later

    Looks like he can continue as is

    I thought I heard something somewhere but perhaps I heard wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    It will happen, only a matter of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,784 ✭✭✭Damien360


    How is he currently accessing his email. I’m guessing it’s not the web browser.

    Set up outlook on his pc. Give him a gmail account, add it to outlook and secure it with 2 factor. Add his eircom account to the same program. Show him he can interchange between each account and there is no difference other than an address. He may get used to it and accept it.

    Does he receive a lot of email or just junk mail ? Maybe he fears loosing the contacts. Import them to gmail. If and when eircom dies, he has the same program to access as always and he is ready to move. You may have to sell the idea of google and it’s many services linked to his account vs eircom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭gipi


    Can you add a gmail account to outlook?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,784 ✭✭✭Damien360


    gipi wrote: »
    Can you add a gmail account to outlook?

    From a quick google

    https://support.office.com/en-ie/article/add-a-gmail-account-to-outlook-70191667-9c52-4581-990e-e30318c2c081[url][/url]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭gipi


    Damien360 wrote: »

    Thanks Damien - I use an older version of outlook, but will have a look at the instructions to see if it can be done for my version.

    Sorry for hijacking the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭rgfuller


    Looks like Eir are going to start charging for use of eircom.net from the end of March 2020.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tens-of-thousands-to-be-hit-with-new-599-monthly-charge-from-eir-for-access-to-email-38924417.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    rgfuller wrote: »
    Looks like Eir are going to start charging for use of eircom.net from the end of March 2020.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tens-of-thousands-to-be-hit-with-new-599-monthly-charge-from-eir-for-access-to-email-38924417.html
    "If an account holder does not get in touch with Eir to arrange payment, the service will cease after 60 days and the account will be permanently deleted after that time."

    That's an awful approach


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    The writing is on the wall.

    If he wants to continue to use it, he will have to put his hand in his pocket for the privilege.

    I expect this to be a stepping stone to complete decomissioning of the email service in the medium term.

    Don't bother with Outlook if you are just using email. Get the Mail app on the PC as it is a much more straightforward and simple app just for email alone.

    He could get an outlook or hotmail email address as well as gmail.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    They are doing this because they do not want to run that aspect of the business anymore. By charging they are encouraging people to switch email providers and most will change.
    They will be left with a small number of paying customers and the subscription from them will at least partially finance the continued operation of it until such time that they decide to axe it altogether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    I've just spring cleaned all my old eircom. net folders and emails and I have 215 individual emails which I will need to hang onto.

    Is there any way I can select all of these in one batch and send them to my gmail account or does it need to be done individually? Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    I've just spring cleaned all my old eircom. net folders and emails and I have 215 individual emails which I will need to hang onto.

    Is there any way I can select all of these in one batch and send them to my gmail account or does it need to be done individually? Thanks.

    As this message, what do i need to do to pull all my emails from eircom to gmail or yahoo?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭squawker


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    As this message, what do i need to do to pull all my emails from eircom to gmail or yahoo?

    Try this first

    https://www.howtogeek.com/436947/how-to-import-an-old-email-account-into-gmail/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Why not just announce it's closure for a given date? Or do they think this will concentrate minds more effectively?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Fantastic service as usual from eir. Sell you broadband and then want extra for email. Privatised by government and citizens encouraged to buy shared. What a shower.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    rgfuller wrote: »
    Looks like Eir are going to start charging for use of eircom.net from the end of March 2020.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tens-of-thousands-to-be-hit-with-new-599-monthly-charge-from-eir-for-access-to-email-38924417.html

    Thanks for the 'heads up' ... without it I would not have known.
    Eir of course did not send me an email informing me!

    At least I have time to export the accounts before I lose it all.

    I wonder if they will also kill off the web page space they used to offer and is still live?
    Not many even know about that now I guess.

    It had the URL in the form of
    http://homepage.eircom.net/~<some user selected name>

    and also

    http://homepage.tinet.ie/~<some user selected name>

    EDIT: just checked those web pages are indeed still alive :D


    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Nate--IRL--


    What about the old indigo.ie email addresses?

    Nate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,784 ✭✭✭Damien360


    What about the old indigo.ie email addresses?

    Nate

    That brings back memories. Are those still active ? Had one I think about 20 years ago and had a dial up connection we had to unplug an office fax machine to use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Nate--IRL--


    Damien360 wrote: »
    That brings back memories. Are those still active ? Had one I think about 20 years ago and had a dial up connection we had to unplug an office fax machine to use.

    Yep still going, and run by eir :(

    Nate


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    All my eircom emails go to my gmail account, does that mean that when eir pulls the plug the old eircom emails will still show in the gmail account, or will they vanish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    looksee wrote: »
    All my eircom emails go to my gmail account, does that mean that when eir pulls the plug the old eircom emails will still show in the gmail account, or will they vanish?

    If the e-mails are taken into your Google mail folders then they won't disappear, you just won't receive any new stuff. Same if you use a mail client like Thunderbird to manage your Eircom.net e-mail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,276 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    I've just spring cleaned all my old eircom. net folders and emails and I have 215 individual emails which I will need to hang onto.

    Is there any way I can select all of these in one batch and send them to my gmail account or does it need to be done individually? Thanks.

    I'm pretty much a dinosaur with computers but I was on my gmail account just now and there it shows how to import all your stuff from eircom or any other email address. if I can do it you can do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,542 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Absolute scummy behaviour from Eir.

    You'd think they'd bother contacting their customers, instead of the Irish Independent. :mad:

    This presents a problem for those of us who refuse to sign up for Gmail on principle.

    Thinking of moving my mobile away from Eir now, f**k them. No loyalty to existing paying customers.

    Blacknight took over IOL email addresses last year, are keeping it free for the first 12 months and won't be charging anything like as much as Eir.

    6.99 a month is an utter rip-off, 6.99 a year would be worth it.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭GrumpyMe


    EIRCON V5.99
    Most recent owners trying to "flog the dead horse" and "milk the dead cow". :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭GrumpyMe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭jamesbil


    coylemj wrote: »
    If the e-mails are taken into your Google mail folders then they won't disappear, you just won't receive any new stuff. Same if you use a mail client like Thunderbird to manage your Eircom.net e-mail.

    Does this mean we can't use our eircom.net at all unless we pay?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    jamesbil wrote: »
    Does this mean we can't use our eircom.net at all unless we pay?

    Yup.

    After 31st March.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    squawker wrote: »

    Thanks for that. Worked perfectly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭jamesbil


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Thanks for that. Worked perfectly.

    So this is purely for importing old messages?
    After 31/3 any messages sent to eircom.net will still disappear?

    Quite a big deal this for a lot of people, I've had mine for over 20 years.
    Think of all the accounts signed up for using it, banks, bills etc.
    Potential is there to be locked out of a lot of accounts and sites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,542 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It's a complete PITA. Thought as a paying Eir customer I'd be safe.

    Don't ever want to have to switch everything again, so will have to consider my options very carefully.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    jamesbil wrote: »
    So this is purely for importing old messages?
    After 31/3 any messages sent to eircom.net will still disappear?

    Quite a big deal this for a lot of people, I've had mine for over 20 years.
    Think of all the accounts signed up for using it, banks, bills etc.
    Potential is there to be locked out of a lot of accounts and sites.

    Yeah, spending most of a couple of days so far trawling through all sorts of sign ups .... revenue, insurances and the myriad of sites one acquires during a long time on line.
    Will never be sure I got them all unfortunately. Three accounts affected .... near €18 per month :eek:

    I have decided to use my own domain and email account and have it hosted on the likes of Blacknight ..... eventually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,643 ✭✭✭worded


    ED E wrote: »
    It will happen, only a matter of time.

    OP here ... I predicted that well.

    Im also available for Tarot Card readings and general advise about the future ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭jamesbil


    Eircom webmail login doesnt seem to be working now, anyone else having difficulty?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    jamesbil wrote: »
    Eircom webmail login doesnt seem to be working now, anyone else having difficulty?

    No doubt being overrun by people grabbing their email before it gets lost.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭hopeso


    jamesbil wrote: »
    Eircom webmail login doesnt seem to be working now, anyone else having difficulty?

    I can't get into it on my PC for weeks now. It works fine on the iPad though. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,542 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    No doubt being overrun by people grabbing their email before it gets lost.

    I find that quite funny. When I signed up for an eircom.net address, you got 5 whole megabytes of storage! so there was no real option other than to use it as a POP3 account and download everything instead of keeping it on their server. I still do. So I don't rely on anyone to keep my emails safe, I do so myself... and yes I do backups!

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    My dad had an Ireland.com email, was gutted to have to give it up :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭hopeso


    I'm an eircom webmail user. I'm not very well informed in these things, but am I right in assuming that gmail is the best option to change to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭cookie1977


    hopeso wrote: »
    I'm an eircom webmail user. I'm not very well informed in these things, but am I right in assuming that gmail is the best option to change to?

    For more privacy consider protonmail.com


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Fogmatic


    I'd already started moving contacts from eircom.net to gmail, as eir didn't have to let us carry on using the old addresses, and it felt like a case of borrowed time. And when eir cleared out disused eircom.net accounts about 2 years ago, requiring us to access their webmail directly every so often or lose our addresses, it was a bit of a hint.

    I never got an email from them about that, and stumbled on it only just in time to act. For years I'd normally only accessed our eircom accounts via a 3rd-party webmail viewer; it was quite fiddly finding out whether they defined that as 'accessing' the account (which they didn't), and that was when there was still an Ask Eir forum.

    No email this time either, but read somewhere the other day that 'customers' should receive one. And I haven't been their customer for anything since 2006, so I guess that explains it. (They call us former broadband customers - quite amusing when our line struggled even to carry dialup!)

    Keeping our eircom addresses would be a sub too far in this household. The only reason I kept them so long is a fondness for the addresses themselves, simple ones easy for people to remember. Back in 2000, my 2-word name was still available (and my husband just missed bagging his 5-letter first name, so we changed one letter of it!). I still cherish the password I was given by a large website back then, a well known animal with 4 letters (and no - it's not a site there'd be any point in hacking!).

    It's no huge job for me to change email addresses - I don't have a business or other organisation to update. If I did, I would have moved at least those contacts away from eircom.net years ago as a precaution. Though I have an advantage in that most of my working life was running small businesses (and spotting the What Ifs still comes naturally!).

    I wonder if even those paying the sub will be able to use their eircom addresses indefinitely, given that the plans of big comms companies always seem to be over-optimistic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    squawker wrote: »
    I shudder to think of the data mining treasure trove that service is for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭Maidhci




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭konman


    Anyone having problems sending emails from eircom.net. Mine are sending but not delivering?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I can't see the option to import emails, in settings, in my Gmail account?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    I can't see the option to import emails, in settings, in my Gmail account?

    https://www.howtogeek.com/436947/how-to-import-an-old-email-account-into-gmail/

    Following that yes?^^

    Log in and have eir email open aswell.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    Went onto the laptop, worked! Thanks for the link, cut out a lot of work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    Went onto the laptop, worked! Thanks for the link, cut out a lot of work.

    Aah, I was gonna say what device were you on alright...

    You're sorted anyway.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    FFVII wrote: »
    Aah, I was gonna say what device were you on alright...

    You're sorted anyway.

    Thanks a million. :)


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