Ian Bailey being extradited to France

Berserker5

Fukk me he's being arrested

Montage of Feck

The same type of carry on started the protests over in Hong Kong. Maybe we should form a picket outside the French embassy.

And not a moment too soon. Good riddance.

Fann Linn

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And not a moment too soon. Good riddance.

Why? Was he found guilty of anything here?

Rows Grower

He's out on bail and has a High Court hearing on January 20th.

corner of hells

Fann Linn wrote: »

Why? Was he found guilty of anything here?

In the eyes of AH , hes guilty of many things including kidnapping and eating Shergar.

I actually think hes been arrested quite a few times over the years.

threeball

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And not a moment too soon. Good riddance.

Bad precedent. If someone in France decides to try you tomorrow and find you guilty I'm sure you'll be happy when the government just hands you over.

Should all our legal cases be subject to second guessing by a European court and quite the kangaroo one at that.

BDI

Did they check what porn him and his mates have in their WhatsApp group?

dekbhoy

Bailey comes across as a bit of a weirdo and without looking into the case i assumed he was guilty based on the way he conducts himself etc. but having read the book West Cork i have changed my mind . The Garda investigation was an absolute shambles and when we look back at a few high profile garda stitch ups the past few years i wouldnt be surprised if this fell under this category.

blackcard

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And not a moment too soon. Good riddance.

The DPP in Ireland didn't think that there was enough evidence to charge him so I would be dubious about his extradition

threeball

BDI wrote: »

Did they check what porn him and his mates have in their WhatsApp group?

Are they offering him a rugby contract?

Montage of Feck

Maybe a contract with Kerrygold for a new ad campaign.

threeball

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Right. Provided I don't brutally murder anyone.

Innocent man according to our system. What makes you immune. Maybe Berries horse was holidaying in France and a child disappeared 30yrs ago. Not you you say, tough ****. Your government isn't going to fight your corner.

Rows Grower

dekbhoy wrote: »

Bailey comes across as a bit of a weirdo and without looking into the case i assumed he was guilty based on the way he conducts himself etc. but having read the book West Cork i have changed my mind . The Garda investigation was an absolute shambles and when we look back at a few high profile garda stitch ups the past few years i wouldnt be surprised if this fell under this category.

The case against Bailey was the biggest attempt at a stitch up I could imagine.

pinkyeye

I'm genuinely shocked that they've agreed to extradite him. Madness.

I'm not convinced one way or the other whether he done it or not but the court case in France was a joke.

Tin Foil Hat

There's not a snowball's chance in hell that he'll be sent off to serve 25 years off the back of the kangaroo court, show-trial, shambles that was allowed to happen over in France.
Not a hope.

Skid X

I don't understand this at all.

How can France claim jurisdiction over a crime that occurred in Ireland which has gone through due process in the Irish Legal System?

Very dangerous precedent.

threeball

pinkyeye wrote: »

I'm genuinely shocked that they've agreed to extradite him. Madness.

I'm not convinced one way or the other whether he done it or not but the court case in France was a joke.

Exactly he could be as guilty as sin but he wasnt tried her due to lack of evidence yet a french "court" loaded with judges favourable to the Du Plantiers decides hes pretty much guilty in a one day sitting.

Go Home Paddy Cat!!

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

There's not a snowball's chance in hell that he'll be sent off to serve 25 years off the back of the kangaroo court, show-trial, shambles that was allowed to happen over in France.
Not a hope.

What makes you so sure of that out of curiosity?

threeball

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

There's not a snowball's chance in hell that he'll be sent off to serve 25 years off the back of the kangaroo court, show-trial, shambles that was allowed to happen over in France.
Not a hope.

I wouldn't bet on it now. The French want to put this to bed right or wrong.

EmmetSpiceland

Considering the evidence used in the french “show trial” I, personally, think it’s a disgrace that he’s being extradited.

I wouldn’t have any strong conviction of belief to say whether he is guilty or innocent but I do believe the Gardaí, here, dropped the ball with that case. They coerced witnesses and “lost” evidence.

If he was getting away with murder it was because of the stuff ups here but using “evidence” that was clearly wrong and selling it as clear proof of his guilt in France is just madness. We should not be going along with this at all.

BDI

Welcome to Ireland. We will take in isis members and kick out men found not guilty of murder to a country that seems intent on locking him up.

Rows Grower

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Considering the evidence used in the french “show trial” I, personally, think it’s a disgrace that he’s being extradited.

I wouldn’t have any strong conviction of belief to say whether he is guilty or innocent but I do believe the Gardaí, here, dropped the ball with that case. They coerced witnesses and “lost” evidence.

If he was getting away with murder it was because of the stuff ups here but using “evidence” that was clearly wrong and selling it as clear proof of his guilt in France is just madness. We should not be going along with this at all.

He's not being extradited.

Fann Linn

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Considering the evidence used in the french “show trial” I, personally, think it’s a disgrace that he’s being extradited.

I wouldn’t have any strong conviction of belief to say whether he is guilty or innocent but I do believe the Gardaí, here, dropped the ball with that case. They coerced witnesses and “lost” evidence.

If he was getting away with murder it was because of the stuff ups here but using “evidence” that was clearly wrong and selling it as clear proof of his guilt in France is just madness. We should not be going along with this at all.

The 'lost evidence' included a farm yard gate. Not likely to have fallen down the back of a filing cabinet either.

corner of hells

I'd say the guillotine is being sharpened as we speak.

We should probably grab a French tourists as hostages .

Rows Grower

Fann Linn wrote: »

The 'lost evidence' included a farm yard gate. Not likely to have fallen down the back of a filing cabinet either.

And the coerced witness's included a woman being blackmailed that her extra marital affair would be revealed if she didn't implicate Bailey and a lad being paid off by a Garda with big lumps of hash to implicate him.

tomwaits48

After listening to the West Cork audible season on the matter I am convinced he did it

Rows Grower

tomwaits48 wrote: »

After listening to the West Cork audible season on the matter I am convinced he did it

Luckily for him your opinion doesn't matter.

EmmetSpiceland

tomwaits48 wrote: »

After listening to the West Cork audible season on the matter I am convinced he did it

No one is arguing about whether he did it or not. The issue is that the evidence against him wasn’t up to a level that warranted a trial here.

One eyed Jack

corner of hells wrote: »

In the eyes of AH , hes guilty of many things including kidnapping and eating Shergar.

I actually think hes been arrested quite a few times over the years.

He was only supposed to take the horse to France!

BDI

One eyed Jack wrote: »

He was only supposed to take the horse to France!

Losing the gate after the horse bolted.

EmmetSpiceland

Rows Grower wrote: »

He's not being extradited.

The high court has “endorsed” his extradition to France.

Whatever you want to call it he’s being readied for transport to another jurisdiction where they used falsified evidence and lies to convict him.

Interesting if this went to the European Court of human rights- with both countries being in Europe, you would imagine they’d see the French trial as the farce that it was.

Rows Grower

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

No one is arguing about whether he did it or not. The issue is that the evidence against him wasn’t up to a level that warranted a trial here.

I'll argue with anyone that thinks he did it no problem.

Rows Grower

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

The high court has “endorsed” his extradition to France.

Whatever you want to call it he’s being readied for transport to another jurisdiction where they used falsified evidence and lies to convict him.

If he is ever on his way to France courtesy of the Irish court system then you can say he is being extradited, but that ain't gonna happen.

John Doe1

After listening to the podcast West Cork, I am fairly sure he is innocent and simply suspected because he is a bit odd.

It is ridiculous than France can just take one of our citizens like this. I also doubt he will be given a fair trial over there.

BDI

There is a worrying number of people on boards who decide stuff based on podcasts.

I knew he was guilty because they played the evil music.

GM228

Skid X wrote: »

I don't understand this at all.

How can France claim jurisdiction over a crime that occurred in Ireland which has gone through due process in the Irish Legal System?

Very dangerous precedent.

It comes under "extra-territorial jurisdiction" in accordance with the generally recognised principles of international law.

gimli2112

corner of hells wrote: »

I'd say the guillotine is being sharpened as we speak.

We should probably grab a French tourists as hostages .

aren't they a nuclear power, what if they nuke Cork?

corner of hells

One of the rare times Irishmen will argue in favour of an English man.
I heard he was in in 1 Para battalion in 1972.

IAMAMORON

Reading between the lines it is a matter of the Irish justice system following legal protocol. A fellow EU member state wants to extradite a non Irish citizen ( British I think ) from another EU country. There is a process around this and he is involved with that process now.

The Irish justice system is not under any circumstances obliged to carry out the extradition. But I would imagine the High court will pass a judgement on this. Once this is done he should be free to go, anywhere except France that is:).

I don't know if he is guilty or not, but I always got the feeling that there was more to her murder than meets the eye. He reminds me of the " Red Herring " suspect you get in a whodunnit mystery.

We will never know what happened that poor women, but I would not trust the French legal system, at all.

EmmetSpiceland

Rows Grower wrote: »

If he is ever on his way to France courtesy of the Irish court system then you can say he is being extradited, but that ain't gonna happen.

What do you think is going on here? He’ll just be arrested by the Irish Gardaí and then not sent to France to serve out their “kangaroo court” sentencing?

John Doe1 wrote: »

After listening to the podcast West Cork, I am fairly sure he is innocent and simply suspected because he is a bit odd.

He was very stupid to say he did it, whether being sarcastic or not.

corner of hells

gimli2112 wrote: »

aren't they a nuclear power, what if they nuke Cork?

And the problem with that is ?

Rows Grower

John Doe1 wrote: »

After listening to the podcast West Cork, I am fairly sure he is innocent and simply suspected because he is a bit odd.

It is ridiculous than France can just take one of our citizens like this. I also doubt he will be given a fair trial over there.

The trial is over, they found him guilty and sentenced him to 25 years.

buried

West Cork was all sorts of total dodge. There was shipments of cocaine going through there for decades and f**k all was being done about it.
The first huge consignment actually caught back in 2007 was discovered only because the gang involved overloaded a smaller boat used to ferry the drugs ashore and accidentally filled a spare fuel tank with diesel instead of petrol. Storm came in and the boat capsized.
Locals used to report vans carrying small boats going down boreens and the backroads to the coast in the depths of winter at all hours of the morning for decades and nothing was ever investigated. The Gaurds down there back in the day, I wouldn't trust a thing they were at. Same as Donegal back in the 90's. Total all sorts of wrong was going on there.

Rows Grower

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

What do you think is going on here? He’ll just be arrested by the Irish Gardaí and then not sent to France to serve out their “kangaroo court” sentencing?



He was very stupid to say he did it, whether being sarcastic or not.

He'll win his appeal of this decision on a point of law, if not in the High Court then in the Supreme Court.

careless sherpa

corner of hells wrote: »

One of the rare times Irishmen will argue in favour of an English man.
I heard he was in in 1 Para battalion in 1972.

That would a a different Ian Bailey

IAMAMORON

corner of hells wrote: »

One of the rare times Irishmen will argue in favour of an English man.
I heard he was in in 1 Para battalion in 1972.

Waffler, he is a journalist. Different Ian Bailey.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Bailey_(British_Army_soldier)

harry Bailey esq

corner of hells wrote: »

In the eyes of AH , hes guilty of many things including kidnapping and eating Shergar..

Ian was always the dark horse of the family.

John Doe1

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

What do you think is going on here? He’ll just be arrested by the Irish Gardaí and then not sent to France to serve out their “kangaroo court” sentencing?



He was very stupid to say he did it, whether being sarcastic or not.

He was very stupid and comes across as fairly arrogant but stupidity shouldnt mean he is imprisoned for many years in a foreign country.

I feel sorry for the guy

corner of hells

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Waffler, he is a journalist. Different Ian Bailey.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Bailey_(British_Army_soldier)

Strange as it may sound , I didn't actually know there was a para called Ian bailey.