What a waste of our Money

368100

So my sister is a layabout who had a kid and expects others to provide for her ever since, child is 12 now and she hasn't tried to get a job since.

She got her council house a few years ago and has had a rotation of equally layabout boyfriends living with her.

The latest one, on breaking up with her cut the power cables on fridge and washing machine right beside the back of the appliance so couldn't be used without the cable replaced. What did the council do when it was reported? Told her to go and get 3 prices of new appliances and then paid for a new one of each for her.
Like WTF!?....for the sake of a few euro of cable and an hour at most of an electrician time this is the way taxpayers money is spent. Apparently would have been deemed too dangerous to just replace the cable.
Country is mad!...

nthclare

Its hard to find the common denominator..

Harry Palmr

The council hired sparks would cost more than the appliances probably.

(didn't need to know about your sister's debauched lifestyle btw)

Berserker5

You wouldn't get an electrician to do it

Modifying the appliance by replacing the power cord

jam_mac_jam

I'm sure she leaves buggies at the bus stop as well.

Ubbquittious

any idea what's happening with 3 old appliances?

the dark phantom

Its bullsh-t, Council have f-all to do with appliances.

fattymuatty

The council don't supply appliances, all appliances are bought by tenants so it is quite surprising, even unbelievable that they would pay to replace your sisters property.

Charlie19

the dark phantom wrote: »

Its bullsh-t, Council have f-all to do with appliances.

Social welfare officer I would imagine.

jam_mac_jam

Eh none of this is true. Neither the council or the social welfare buy you a new fridge.

Tippsman

If your sister is looking for another layabout friend?

I can rise to the task.

Charlie19

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Eh none of this is true. Neither the council or the social welfare buy you a new fridge.

It doesn't actually state appliances but they would fall under emergency payments.

https://gradireland.com/careers-advice/job-descriptions/community-welfare-officer


Community Welfare Officers involves the administration of the Supplementary Welfare Allowance Scheme which is funded by the Department of Social and Family Affairs and administered by the HSE. The types of payments made under this scheme include: weekly Supplementary Welfare Allowance, Rent Supplement, Mortgage Interest Supplement, Diet and Heating Supplements, Back to School Clothing and Footwear Scheme and exceptional needs payments for items such as buggies, clothing, funeral costs and so on.

st1979

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Eh none of this is true. Neither the council or the social welfare buy you a new fridge.

No it's your community welfare officer who does.

Your Face

I like crisps.

BeerWolf

My Sister's got two kids, one almost 18 the other 6 that is quite autistic... she has NEVER tried to find a job for the majority of that, and has instead opted to live off social welfare with child benefits as well as aid from the State for the autistic kid... all the while living in my mother's house often leaving it in a state.

****ing embarrassment... with zero pride or shame (she used up her daughter's €30k education fund left by my dad for herself)... seriously hate leeches that takes advantage!

2lazytogetup

I know a mother living off social welfare. she must spend her time looking up how different things for free (probably citizens infomormation website) as she has the money to drive a 141d large mercedes and a nice iphone. 3 of her kids have their own SNAs in school. nothing noticeably wrong with them. having three SNAs must cost the state an extra 240k a year. And this is just one mother. this happens alot. Apparently people just exaggerate on the SNA application form. while I pay my taxes and all i get are my kids stuck in classes with 33+ kids to the one teacher. largest teacher pupil populations in Europe so these freeloaders can get everyhing handed to them.

the beer revolu

Another dole free house thread.
Yay!

gmisk

BeerWolf wrote: »

My Sister's got two kids, one almost 18 the other 6 that is quite autistic... she has NEVER tried to find a job for the majority of that, and has instead opted to live off social welfare with child benefits as well as aid from the State for the autistic kid... all the while living in my mother's house often leaving it in a state.

****ing embarrassment... with zero pride or shame (she used up her daughter's €30k education fund left by my dad for herself)... seriously hate leeches that takes advantage!

What exactly do you want us to say about your sister?
Maybe have a talk with her yourself?

gmisk

the beer revolu wrote: »

Another dole free house thread.
Yay!

It makes a change from bashing "da foreigners"

punisher5112

Believe it or not but tenants are given money to buy appliances if they aren't in the property.....

It's similar to if the washing machine or fridge goes in a LL rental as they replace....

Nothing has changed.

There was a guy working security in dundrum and he needed a phone for his safety he got a cheque to purchase one, he also got money towards a car, the sun roof was leaking he got a quote put it in and got €700 in a cheque.....
He had no problems showing us this either as he was boasting about it how great it was....

On the buggies thing this did happen but maybe not as much but you would see them with really expensive ones and say damaged a wheel they would just leave it at road side and have a lovely new one few days later....

Jinglejangle69

Easier for the council than some girl going to the papers and blaming da gubberment for her kids been hungry.

The uneducated would lap it up.

What a country we live in.

2lazytogetup

i think Ireland should adopt something similar to the Universal Credits system that they have in the UK to reduce fraud and make it easier to claim. UK are very happy with it as they just voted back in the Tories who were the party that brought in this system.

punisher5112

I'd love to see a card system for payment and that it can't be spent on gambling, drink or smokes for example. If they want that let them get a few hours work.

For children allowance the kids must be attending education.

2lazytogetup

2lazytogetup wrote: »

i think Ireland should adopt something similar to the Universal Credits system that they have in the UK to reduce fraud and make it easier to claim. UK are very happy with it as they just voted back in the Tories who were the party that brought in this system.

Can you imagine the uproar from the great unwashed?

punisher5112

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Can you imagine the uproar from the great unwashed?

Funny how the ones that shout the loudest tend to be the ones that don't even vote.....

They have the mentality the guberment is robbing them....

Jinglejangle69

Our welfare state is unsustainable.

Will eventually collapse.

Berserker5

punisher5112 wrote: »

For children allowance the kids must be attending education.

They do have to be attending to get CA

punisher5112

Berserker5 wrote: »

They do have to be attending to get CA

Not enforced at all....

Travellers don't follow these rules...

smurgen

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Can you imagine the uproar from the great unwashed?

they'd be right.why take accountability from a government that is unaccountable? You're the same person defending expense fiddling and the clicking in scandal on other threads

the beer revolu

punisher5112 wrote: »

Not enforced at all....

Travellers don't follow these rules...

That didn't take long!

Asylum seekers, anyone?

Geuze

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Eh none of this is true. Neither the council or the social welfare buy you a new fridge.

People keep saying that the "DSP buying buggies" is an urban myth.

It is not.

They do give out cash for that purpose.

The funniest one is where recipients go into the CWO, and say "I lost my money".

The CWO has paid out cash based on that reason.

These are known as Exceptional Needs payments.

big syke

2lazytogetup wrote: »

having three SNAs must cost the state an extra 240k a year.

Time to move industry

Geuze

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Eh none of this is true. Neither the council or the social welfare buy you a new fridge.

Exceptional and Urgent Needs payments

2007 = 70m
2010 = 69m
2015 = 31m
2016 = 32m

See table C1

http://www.welfare.ie/en/pdf/DEASP_Annual_Statistics_Report_2016.pdf

gmisk

punisher5112 wrote: »

I'd love to see a card system for payment and that it can't be spent on gambling, drink or smokes for example. If they want that let them get a few hours work.

For children allowance the kids must be attending education.

Your basically advocating we bring in food stamps?

gmisk

2lazytogetup wrote: »

i think Ireland should adopt something similar to the Universal Credits system that they have in the UK to reduce fraud and make it easier to claim. UK are very happy with it as they just voted back in the Tories who were the party that brought in this system.

Did you watch the channel 4 programme on child poverty?
Universal credits have caused serious issues for a lot of people hence the fact there are more food banks in the UK than there are mc donalds....

The UK voted back in the Tories I would argue a lot more due to brexit and the fact Jeremy corbyn is the labour leader.

Geuze

Geuze wrote: »

People keep saying that the "DSP buying buggies" is an urban myth.

It is not.

They do give out cash for that purpose.

The funniest one is where recipients go into the CWO, and say "I lost my money".

The CWO has paid out cash based on that reason.

These are known as Exceptional Needs payments.

One of my sisters is a CWO and yes its done but it's rare enought and they go through hoops to get it, most of her time is spend doing HAP for people.

It was more common years ago when people were really poor, like with a mother in a rural area with no transport married to an alcoholic who has spend evey penny in the pub Christmas week and she had no food or fuel in the house and other assorted horrific stories which do not occure anymore because we have moved on as a socitey.

corner of hells

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Can you imagine the uproar from the great unwashed?

Definition of the great unwashed,

"ordinary or common people who do not have a lot of money, power, or social status".

So, what social strata do you occupy?

punisher5112

the beer revolu wrote: »

That didn't take long!

Asylum seekers, anyone?

Only stating a fact....

Fiftyfilthy

Firmly believe, if you are lazy and no obvious reason as to why you are not working , you are given a warning to have a job in 6 months

If not then put to death (humanely)

Pointless having them around wasting resources and creating new human waste imo

Kids can go to

punisher5112

gmisk wrote: »

Your basically advocating we bring in food stamps?

Where did I state that?

If they need that help then they shouldn't be using it for alcohol, gambling or smoking.

It should be to get essential items and food, fuel allowance and many other allowances are provided.

Sardonicat

Fiftyfilthy wrote: »

Firmly believe, if you are lazy and no obvious reason as to why you are not working , you are given a warning to have a job in 6 months

If not then put to death (humanely)

Pointless having them around wasting resources and creating new human waste imo

Kids can go to

Oooh. Lord Edgelord, Edgy Mac Edgface of Edgeville is here.

Fiftyfilthy

Sardonicat wrote: »

Oooh. Lord Edgelord, Edgy Mac Edgface of Edgeville is here.

If it makes you feel better thinking that but I can assure you , it’s how I genuinely think

368100

368100 wrote: »

So my sister is a layabout.

Have a sibling just like that. In their 40's.

corner of hells

Sardonicat wrote: »

Oooh. Lord Edgelord, Edgy Mac Edgface of Edgeville is here.

Let him at it for while ?
I'd like to know who'll do the executions ?

the beer revolu

Fiftyfilthy wrote: »

If it makes you feel better thinking that but I can assure you , it’s how I genuinely think

Genuinely edgy!

Sardonicat

Fiftyfilthy wrote: »

If it makes you feel better thinking that but I can assure you , it’s how I genuinely think

Edgy! Advocating exterminating children.

Fiftyfilthy

Sardonicat wrote: »

Edgy! Advocating exterminating children.

How else do you break the chain?

I'm glad that my taxes are going to ease the burden on people like your sister.

BeerWolf

gmisk wrote: »

What exactly do you want us to say about your sister?
Maybe have a talk with her yourself?

People that don't earn their own things take everything for granted and don't care for what's handed to them. Just like Social housing thrown to the gutter, my sister reflects that when frequently leaving my mother's house in a state... abusing my mother's patience and kindness.

Told my mother to kick her out countless times... ****ing hate freeloaders.

Sardonicat

Fiftyfilthy wrote: »

How else do you break the chain?

Submit your fine ideas to the relevant government departments.

Fiftyfilthy

Sardonicat wrote: »

Submit your fine ideas to the relevant government departments.

Can’t, too busy