Man Dies After Being Struck By Luas

dixiefly

Very sad to hear of a death after a man being struck by a Luas tram at Charlemont at about 3am.

Condolences to the man’s family and friends.

I wonder will this impact future late night service extensions?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2019/1215/1099215-dublin-luas-death/

Darc19

Sad, but why any question about the service?

Should we ban cars because someone dies in a car accident.

Find out the circumstances, if any safety changes are needed, make the necessary changes, but to withdraw a much needed service is way over the top

Effects

Effects wrote: »

Shouldn’t affect service.
Alcohol is probably the main factor in this accident.

Nice assumption there.

Del2005

dixiefly wrote: »

Very sad to hear of a death after a man being struck by a Luas tram at Charlemont at about 3am.

Condolences to the man’s family and friends.

I wonder will this impact future late night service extensions?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2019/1215/1099215-dublin-luas-death/

They don't stop public transport after these incidents. If they did we wouldn't have any public transport because every mode of transport has has fatalities. They will review the operation of the service and make improvements if necessary.

The chan chan man

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Nice assumption there.

Well....i bet he’s right..

Shefwedfan

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Nice assumption there.

3am Christmas time and accident

I would say the chances of alcohol are high

Jinglejangle69

Reports it was a cyclist.

suicide_circus

would it be on that section of road between charlemont and harcourt?

Effects

Effects wrote: »

Yeah, Garda press release says it was a cyclist. Other media saying the same now as well.

People will care now at least, rather than the thinly veiled implications they deserved it for going out for a drink.

dixiefly

Effects wrote: »

Shouldn’t affect service.
Alcohol is probably the main factor in this accident.

I asked because the late night running is is not part of the normal service and I am sure the proximity to late bars and night clubs and the possibility of alcohol related falls etc must be a factor in decisions too give permission for these extensions.

I do hope that it doesn’t affect these extra services.

Peatys

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

People will care now at least, rather than the thinly veiled implications they deserved it for going out for a drink.

Thinking drink is involved due to it happening at 3am Saturday night is a far cry to insinuating they deserved it.

dixiefly

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Reports it was a cyclist.

Oh, I see that now. Awful still. RIP.

Investigations still necessary of course.

Ironicname

ReginaldSmythV wrote:

People will care now at least, rather than the thinly veiled implications they deserved it for going out for a drink.

Oh please!!!! Noting the high probability of alcohol being a factor is a million miles away from implying anyone deserved anything.

The fact your mind would go there is a sickening indictment on your absolute need to take offense where none is given and your warped view on others.

Signore Fancy Pants

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

People will care now at least, rather than the thinly veiled implications they deserved it for going out for a drink.

Only 09:03 and the stupidist comment on the site already.

Signore Fancy Pants

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Only 09:03 and the stupidist comment on the site already.

And 9:28 for the most thanks fishing one.

yesto24

Just because it's a cyclist doesn't mean he wasn't drinking.
I am not saying he was but you can't say either way.
What I will say and I say this everytime there is a collision with a Luas is it runs on tracks and it's traffic signals are well tested by now if you have a collision with a Luas it is nearly always your fault. There is of course the possibility that the driver of the Luas made a mistake but I think that is unlikely. There will be an investigation, there are cameras all over the trams and we will find out in due course.
It is sad for the cyclist and his family and for the Luas driver but that only highlights the importance of finding the cause of this collision and changing or advising people so that it does not happen again.

Dakota Dan

yesto24 wrote: »

Just because it's a cyclist doesn't mean he wasn't drinking.
I am not saying he was but you can't say either way.
What I will say and I say this everytime there is a collision with a Luas is it runs on tracks and it's traffic signals are well tested by now if you have a collision with a Luas it is nearly always your fault. There is of course the possibility that the driver of the Luas made a mistake but I think that is unlikely. There will be an investigation, there are cameras all over the trams and we will find out in due course.

He could have been wearing headphones.

amen

dixiefly wrote: »

I asked because the late night running is is not part of the normal service and I am sure the proximity to late bars and night clubs and the possibility of alcohol related falls etc must be a factor in decisions too give permission for these extensions.

I do hope that it doesn’t affect these extra services.

RIP to person Involved.


Why should the possibility of alcohol related falls be a factor in permission for late night services ? Are you saying that because people are drunk abd May fall thst the rest of us should not have late night services available? Should we ban taxis ?

How about we tackle the problem of pubs serving obviously drunk people ?

yesto24

Dakota Dan wrote: »

He could have been wearing headphones.

Over his eyes?
I never said anything about hearing the Luas.

Signore Fancy Pants

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

And 9:28 for the most thanks fishing one.

All thanks to you, Reginald.

Lets hope the death toll on the roads is low this Christmas.

antix80

At least he wasn't homeless . That would be a real tragedy

the beer revolu

antix80 wrote: »

At least he wasn't homeless . That would be a real tragedy

What the fcuk is that post about?

While not quite understanding it, I reckon it's going to be the biggest, complete arsehole comment of the day.

antix80

the beer revolu wrote: »

What the fcuk is that post about?

While not quite understanding it, I reckon it's going to be the biggest, complete arsehole comment of the day.

Sad for his family but surely his decision to cycle on the luas line at 3am... Meanwhile, subzero temps and homeless literally in the streets.

Dakota Dan

yesto24 wrote: »

Over his eyes?
I never said anything about hearing the Luas.

No Sherlock, if he crossed the line as the luas was coming behind him, did I really have to explain it for you?

dan1895

antix80 wrote: »

Sad for his family but surely his decision to cycle on the luas line at 3am... Meanwhile, subzero temps and homeless literally in the streets.

Do we have to shoehorn the homeless into every conversation and news story now?

antix80

dan1895 wrote: »

Do we have to shoehorn the homeless into every conversation and news story now?

Same strrets, my friend

Mrs OBumble

amen wrote: »

RIP to person Involved.


Why should the possibility of alcohol related falls be a factor in permission for late night services ?

How about we tackle the problem of pubs serving obviously drunk people ?

Indeed: every alcohol-related death just points out that we need a major attitude change towards drunkenness.

Serving alcohol to anyone who is obviously drunk should be gross misconduct for venue staff and loss of license for the venue.


And RIP to the person who died (no matter how many wheels their vehicle had), and condolences to their family and friends.

SEPT 23 1989

A sad time for that family this Christmas

CPTM

Dakota Dan wrote: »

No Sherlock, if he crossed the line as the luas was coming behind him, did I really have to explain it for you?

I'm still not convinced. You're saying that because he was wearing headphones while cycling on a luas line at 3am it wasn't his fault? We're getting into blame territory here which is a bit unnecessary but saying as you started debating against a logical concept that Luas trams are hardly ever wrong it just seemed a bit.. wrong.

Hercule Poirot

antix80 wrote: »

At least he wasn't homeless . That would be a real tragedy

We have a contender for stupidest comment, didn't think it was possible but there you go

wakka12

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Nice assumption there.

How many people are up at 3am that arent drinking?

fullstop

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

And 9:28 for the most thanks fishing one.

Put down the shovel and go back to bed will ya?

Darc19

Effects wrote: »

Shouldn’t affect service.
Alcohol is probably the main factor in this accident.

Thousands of people can enjoy a night out without alcohol. Thousands also work in Dublin at night and would be going home at that time after a hard night's work.

Cause needs to be found, if safety changes need to be made, then make them.

But stop a service? Nope

Sheeps

Darc19 wrote: »

Sad, but why any question about the service?

Should we ban cars because someone dies in a car accident.

Find out the circumstances, if any safety changes are needed, make the necessary changes, but to withdraw a much needed service is way over the top

No we should restrict them from the city centre though because they cause havoc.

suicide_circus

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

A sad time for that family this Christmas

yeah god help them. and the luas driver for that matter.

X111111111111

Some of the comments on here are pathetic.

R.I.P to the poor man and his family.

Thelonious Monk

It's so odd. Comments are stacking up on this news on the Journal because a cyclist is involved. Every week there seems to be a pedestrian killed by a car, including an 18 year old a few weeks ago, and you get one or two comments. The hatred for cyclists because, like every other road user, they aren't perfect, is ridiculous in Ireland, especially given that they never harm anyone.

punisher5112

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

It's so odd. Comments are stacking up on this news on the Journal because a cyclist is involved. Every week there seems to be a pedestrian killed by a car, including an 18 year old a few weeks ago, and you get one or two comments. The hatred for cyclists because, like every other road user, they aren't perfect, is ridiculous in Ireland, especially given that they never harm anyone.

I've been hit by 2 on a path and one on a green Man...

Thelonious Monk

punisher5112 wrote: »

I've been hit by 2 on a path and one on a green Man...

That's bizarre.

stateofflux

RIP,

Ive cycled through there late many times... i always have to keep very alert there as so many things are happening at that junction with traffic flow...add in drunk pedestrians and u turning taxis ...it is crazy

punisher5112

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

That's bizarre.

Well twice on Eden quay and the other was just off O'Connell st.

Cut on shin from the O'Connell Street one and bruises from the other 2 but one went into the wall on the quays and the other went flying as he hit my shoulder....

That one I walked on while crying with laughter as he was on the ground....

Pinch Flat

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

It's so odd. Comments are stacking up on this news on the Journal because a cyclist is involved. Every week there seems to be a pedestrian killed by a car, including an 18 year old a few weeks ago, and you get one or two comments. The hatred for cyclists because, like every other road user, they aren't perfect, is ridiculous in Ireland, especially given that they never harm anyone.

Seems to be the way. The motoring related deaths barely raise a comment any more - they’re just normalised - even where the motorist was many times over the drink driving limit. interesting how this thread has developed - different tone on the comments from the first few threads to when it became known a cyclist was involved.

Thelonious Monk

punisher5112 wrote: »

Well twice on Eden quay and the other was just off O'Connell st.

Cut on shin from the O'Connell Street one and bruises from the other 2 but one went into the wall on the quays and the other went flying as he hit my shoulder....

That one I walked on while crying with laughter as he was on the ground....

Why would you find that funny? In about 20 years cycling in Dublin I've never seen any kind of accident, I have to doubt your sincerity.

punisher5112

It's sad and of course it's a horrible event but society has changed and most are out for themselves to be honest.

Unfortunately I see the bad driving from motorists and cyclists, rickshaws and scooters.


Some risks taken are unimaginable but yet they continue to do it....

Had one on the north side walking with his bike from a side road proceed to walk out onto the road where I was already mid way past in a large vehicle, he could have easily gone under the rear wheel and he gets on cycles up the road to shout abuse and give the fingers and then proceeds to cycle through red lights with crossing traffic..,.

The numpty even put in a complaint to my work place stating he was wearing a black coat, hat, bag and trousers.... No idea why he would even add that to the complaint. It was dark also.

punisher5112

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Why would you find that funny? In about 20 years cycling in Dublin I've never seen any kind of accident, I have to doubt your sincerity.

Why wouldn't I find it funny he was a scum bag, expected me to move while cycling at speed on a FOOTPATH.....

Don't believe me, I know it happened and that's enough for me....

Peatys

Just count yourselves lucky you don't live in the States

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX42eyLjkSA

Pinch Flat

At the end of the day, some family is waking up to devastating news this morning that will change their lives for ever. People need to focus on this, rather than anecdotes that they seem to keep at hand for these situations.

the beer revolu

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Why would you find that funny? In about 20 years cycling in Dublin I've never seen any kind of accident, I have to doubt your sincerity.

I've no time for the stupid cyclist hatred but people are hit by and hurt by cyclists.
I have never been but I do know someone who was quite badly hurt by a scumbag on a bike on the footpath.

scamalert

someone who has to see Dublin quite rarely to be fair im amazed theres not 20 deaths each day, pedestrians in the morning dressed pitch black running across busy roads without single hi vis item, cyclists in city center ride at speeds and break rules where single error from either driver could result in instant death is mind numbing, that theres only few deaths occurring, given how many take the risks, driving inches along vehicles that could crush them in a second :cool:

Pinch Flat

Wait - pedestrians should wear hi vis? In Dublin? Last time I looked it had pretty decent lights on I the dark and cars also are equipped with head lights.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

The hatred for cyclists because, like every other road user, they aren't perfect, is ridiculous in Ireland, especially given that they never harm anyone.

They actually do harm people.. I was out of work for 11 months after being knocked down by a cyclist resulting in severe concussion, two broken elbows and a broken wrist. The little prick just picked up his bike and pissed off.

Oh, I'm an avid cyclist before anyone jumps all over me.

Re the cyclist killed, it could have been a bar worker on his way home from work and not a drinker.

Could have been gargled too, I was roped into a Christmas drink a few years back and tried cycling home afterwards, God only knows how I made it home (I kept falling off lol)

Poor lad either way, a very sad Christmas for the mans family & not a particularly great one for the LUAS operator either.