Take the money or report the crime!

freshpopcorn

You are involved in an incident when a high profile, wealthy, etc person inures you in some way.
If you report the incident there career is over and you'll get your day in court and see them sentenced.(You'd might get a bit of cash for doing an interview).
Your second option is to keep your mouth shut and receive a large lump sum of money.

I'd be tempted enough to take the money to be honest if I felt the person wasn't a serious of a risk of re offending.(I'm terrible I know).

So, would you take the money or report the crime?

uchimata83

What did McGregor do now?

_Brian

McGregor, drag him through the courts no matter what, hateful knuckle dragger

Anyone else, it depends.

Whichever benefits me the most - the money.

reg114

freshpopcorn wrote: »

You are involved in an incident when a high profile, wealthy, etc person inures you in some way.
If you report the incident there career is over and you'll get your day in court and see them sentenced.(You'd might get a bit of cash for doing an interview).
Your second option is to keep your mouth shut and receive a large lump sum of money.

I'd be tempted enough to take the money to be honest if I felt the person wasn't a serious of a risk of re offending.(I'm terrible I know).

So, would you take the money or report the crime?

fools are easily bought ...

tdf7187

My first thought, 'cos I'm evil, is blackmail them for decades with the info. Probably not a good idea though as they would lose patience sooner or later and you'd be the one more likely to end up in prison.

duffman13

Depends on the crime, if they are going to reoffend and potentially cause serious harm to someone else then court. Otherwise I'd take the money

RobbingBandit

I'd rather discredit them money comes and money goes but infimy is infinite

freshpopcorn

reg114 wrote: »

fools are easily bought ...

I know. I'd rather have a new car for the mother tough!

Tom Mann Centuria

I think if it was sexual assault, you'd have to seek justice, maybe the money would come after, civil courts etc. Especially if you knew the person had done it before and would probably do it again.

katiek102010

You are duty bound by law to report it.

And in all fairness if it was mcgregor I'd be reporting straight away

Vic_08

This is Ireland, home of the personal injury claim. You can do both.

Unless it was something very very bad I wouldn’t even think twice I’d be taking the money without hesitation.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Without hesitation I would report the crime. Taking money is no better than the judges who let people get away without a criminal record by ordering a payment to the poor box.

Beau Bennett

Yeah OP, what more use could money be than the gratification of standing proud in front of the bathroom mirror each morning repeating to yourself "fools are easily bought."


The money every time.

AlmightyCushion

Keep your mouth shut and take the money. Then when you have the money, report them. Best of both worlds.

Wanderer78

Money money money, fcuk morals

Boggles

katiek102010 wrote: »

You are duty bound by law to report it.

Which law is that?

John_Rambo

Sounds like Epstien, Michael Jackson, Jimi Saville, Paul Gadd, Weinstein style offences where people were afraid to report the abuses because of the abusers power and wealth.

Kaysen Late Plan

Kaysen Late Plan wrote: »

Without hesitation I would report the crime. Taking money is no better than the judges who let people get away without a criminal record by ordering a payment to the poor box.

I think your own financial and life situation may influence this decision.

For me a large sum of money now would set me up for many years to come, mean I’d need a significantly smaller mortgage etc. This is would be far better than any “good feeling” from reporting.

There would be exceptions but only the absolute worst of crimes.

MOR316

John_Rambo wrote: »

Sounds like Epstien, Michael Jackson, Jimi Saville, Paul Gadd, Weinstein style offences where people were afraid to report the abuses because of the abusers power and wealth.

Jackson? Apart from his odd behaviour and addiction to painkilling drugs, there's literally not one shread of evidence he done anything, pure speculation. Until I see anything credible against him, I'll reserve any judgement in relation to him on that matter.

The rest = Wouldn't even wipe my arse with them*

*Nice to see someone call that odious creature by his real name and not his stage name!

Raconteuse

I'd report them. Not because I'm a brilliant person or anything but because I'd feel guilty and go mad like in that film A Simple Plan.

MOR316

freshpopcorn wrote: »

You are involved in an incident when a high profile, wealthy, etc person inures you in some way.
If you report the incident there career is over and you'll get your day in court and see them sentenced.(You'd might get a bit of cash for doing an interview).
Your second option is to keep your mouth shut and receive a large lump sum of money.

I'd be tempted enough to take the money to be honest if I felt the person wasn't a serious of a risk of re offending.(I'm terrible I know).

So, would you take the money or report the crime?

Report the crime!

Justice would be all I care about. Money and lying is not a substitute for a sound mind and conscience

Kirby

MOR316 wrote: »

Report the crime!

Justice would be all I care about. Money and lying is not a substitute for a sound mind and conscience

You can't fill your belly with a slice of conscience.

Take the money and then report them anyway. The type of NDA these people make you sign....... illegal behaviour NDA's...... aren't legally binding. You wouldn't get in trouble.

Have your cake and eat it too.

MOR316

Kirby wrote: »

Take the money and then report them anyway. The type of NDA these people make you sign....... illegal behaviour NDA's...... aren't legally binding. You wouldn't get in trouble.

Have your cake and eat it too.

Reminds of the Father Ted Christmas episode...

"BIZARRE IREGGULARITIES IN HIS ACCOUNT"

sbsquarepants

Depends on the crime.

If a high profile sports star gave me a box cos i didn't want his whisky say (to us one wildly implausible, entirely imagined scenario) I'll have the money thanks.

In fact if you're reading Conor - i'm available to call your whisky horse piss at the drop of a hat, just name the time and place.....and eh, bring your cheque book with you:D

If he was all rapey again, then there's just not enough money in the world to buy me off.

MOR316

MOR316 wrote: »

Jackson? Apart from his odd behaviour and addiction to painkilling drugs, there's literally not one shread of evidence he done anything, pure speculation. Until I see anything credible against him, I'll reserve any judgement in relation to him on that matter.

The rest = Wouldn't even wipe my arse with them*

*Nice to see someone call that odious creature by his real name and not his stage name!

Plus 100. I don’t believe a word of any of the bull sprouted about MJ. He has his problems due to his childhood but I don’t believe he did a thing wrong in relation to kids etc. Sick of reading people jumping on the bandwagon against him.

An absolute music legend.

MOR316

Cade Acidic Sentinel wrote: »

Plus 100. I don’t believe a word of any of the bull sprouted about MJ. He has his problems due to his childhood but I don’t believe he did a thing wrong in relation to kids etc. Sick of reading people jumping on the bandwagon against him.

An absolute music legend.

Not about his music for me.
I used to believe it and then I read up on it. Court documents, private phone calls etc. Clear as day he's been taken to the cleaners.

I'm genuinely angry at LN. The acting in it, the editing of clips to make it look bad, the inconsistent lies, going against everything they said in their depostions, the director making homophobic and racial slurs/tweets. All of it just takes away from true CSA survivors and makes a mockery of it. Disgusting and unforgivable!! There is a clip of his lawyer talking about suing an Airline for filming him and the director edited it, making it look like he was threatening Children??
As I said, fraudlent and disgraceful!

Anyways, moving on...

Can we get an example of a crime from the OP?

John_Rambo

Michael Jackson is a perfect example of what the OP is about. Payouts of £130 million plus to children he slept with.

Cee-Jay-Cee

I'd take the money, someone being thrown in prison or dragged through our farcical justice system and getting off on a technicality is pointless, I may as well benefit from it as best I can.

John_Rambo

John_Rambo wrote: »

Michael Jackson is a perfect example of what the OP is about. Payouts of £130 million plus to children he slept with.

Please, stop believing in the bull being fed to you. I don’t believe a single word from any source claiming he did a single thing wrong to any child. Yet another box ticked in the list of outlandish views you have.

It’s actually disgraceful the way MJ is treated by the plebs believing what is said about him.

20Wheel

Money please.


Odds are the courts only going to give them a suspended sentence anyway.

20Wheel

MOR316 wrote: »

Jackson? Apart from his odd behaviour and addiction to painkilling drugs, there's literally not one shread of evidence he done anything, pure speculation. Until I see anything credible against him, I'll reserve any judgement in relation to him on that matter.

The rest = Wouldn't even wipe my arse with them*

*Nice to see someone call that odious creature by his real name and not his stage name!

He did have a fairground in his back garden.

John_Rambo

Cade Acidic Sentinel wrote: »

Please, stop believing in the bull being fed to you. I don’t believe a single word from any source claiming he did a single thing wrong to any child. Yet another box ticked in the list of outlandish views you have.

It’s actually disgraceful the way MJ is treated by the plebs believing what is said about him.

Nonsense. He slept with small boys and paid them off. Common knowledge.

John_Rambo

John_Rambo wrote: »

Nonsense. He slept with small boys and paid them off. Common knowledge.

It’s common knowledge that it’s bull and lies to tarnish his name and/or extract money from him by sh1tty individuals.

Also define slept with? Innocent sleepovers are not a crime, unusual but you have to look at MJ as a child in a mans body. If you mean had sexual relations then you are talking out your arse like many on the subject.

Skateboarding is a kids activity, you partake in it don’t you.....??

John_Rambo

Cade Acidic Sentinel wrote: »

It’s common knowledge that it’s bull and lies to tarnish his name and/or extract money from him by sh1tty individuals.

Victims.

Cade Acidic Sentinel wrote: »

Also define slept with? Innocent sleepovers are not a crime, unusual but you have to look at MJ as a child in a mans body. If you mean had sexual relations then you are talking out your arse like many on the subject.

If the man was still alive would you let your children sleep with him?

Cade Acidic Sentinel wrote: »

Skateboarding is a kids activity, you partake in it don’t you.....??

Nonsense! Who told you that? Skateboarding was developed by surfers for when the waves were flat, it's developed in to a mainstream sport now and is a good, healthy form of commuting along with scooting (which would be considered for children only by the clueless).

Plus, as an adult, skateboarding is much more acceptable than sleeping with children.

MOR316

John_Rambo wrote: »

Michael Jackson is a perfect example of what the OP is about. Payouts of £130 million plus to children he slept with.

When he was first accused in 1993, the father tried to get 20 million off him, Jackson told him to piss off.
Then he asked for 1 million, he told him to piss off.
500,000...Same answer.

He ended up settling the civil case for 18 million because, despite appealing twice, the civil case was before the criminal one.
The criminal case still went ahead but, two grand juries didn't prosecute because they found absolutely no evidence of any wrong doing.

So yeah, I'd suggest toning down your lies.

MOR316

John_Rambo wrote: »

Nonsense. He slept with small boys and paid them off. Common knowledge.

He didn't pay them off.
One civil case was settled. No one was paid off.

Common knowledge? From who exactly?

MOR316

20Wheel wrote: »

He did have a fairground in his back garden.

The fairground that Make a Wish foundation kids visited every single day?

What a horrible man!

By your logic so, I best keep away from Funderland

John_Rambo

A sad story from abused to abuser.

TheBoyConor

Take the money. Report it and drag it through the court. If you are asked about the money just say you don't recall receiving money.

MOR316

John_Rambo wrote: »

A sad story from abused to abuser.

Baaa Baaa

Greyfox

Don't even need to think about it, definitely take the money

MOR316

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Take the money. Report it and drag it through the court. If you are asked about the money just say you don't recall receiving money.

Jesus Christ...

No wonder the world is ****ed

John_Rambo

MOR316 wrote: »

Jesus Christ...

No wonder the world is ****ed

Agreed. That's exactly how Michael Jackson never went to jail.

Apiarist

freshpopcorn wrote: »

....So, would you take the money or report the crime?

Report. May settle for a compo in court.

For those who would take the money: If we are talking about serious money, how would you use the money without the Revenue noticing? Hide them and spend €50 a week so that nobody knows? Move to Colombia? Good luck with that.

MOR316

John_Rambo wrote: »

Agreed. That's exactly how Michael Jackson never went to jail.

Game of trolls

Raconteuse

Cade Acidic Sentinel wrote: »

Plus 100. I don’t believe a word of any of the bull sprouted about MJ. He has his problems due to his childhood but I don’t believe he did a thing wrong in relation to kids etc. Sick of reading people jumping on the bandwagon against him.

An absolute music legend.

I understand people saying there's no evidence so it can't be said for certain that he abused boys, but how deluded and pigheaded does a person have to be to claim confidently that he definitely didn't, when he had sleepovers with young boys and when he was fixated with young boys, then lost interest as they got older, and moved on to the next young boys.

Just because of liking his music.

MOR316

Raconteuse wrote: »

I understand people saying there's no evidence so it can't be said for certain that he abused boys, but how deluded and pigheaded does a person have to be to claim confidently that he definitely didn't, when he had sleepovers with young boys and when he was fixated with young boys, then lost interest as they got older, and moved on to the next young boys.

Just because of liking his music.

Quite a lot of girls have come forward and said they had sleepovers with him. They say nothing ever happened. But, that doesn't sell so the media wouldn't report it

The losing interest as he got older is a strange one...

There's pictures of him working with one of the accusers as an adult.
One of the accusers, he allowed to record in Neverland, shoot a video in Neverland, have romantic getaways with his finance in Neverland, all as an adult. He even got him a job working with JT and Britney Spears but, the fool messed that up by having an affair with Britney and JT ended up writing Cry Me A River over it

Just so happens the two mentioned in the above paragraph are the two accusers in LN :rolleyes:

From people who knew him as kids, that still hung out with him as adults, is a long list so, I'm not really sure where this rubbish of "he lost interest in them" comes from to be honest with you

I also think it's a load of rubbish to just dismiss people who defend him by him saying, "all because you like the music"
It's a highly ignorant retort, based on what the media tells you, because you're not arsed actually reading up on it.
I like one of his albums, never had any interest in seeing him live, as I thought his tours were crap, I thought he was guilty but, changed my mind when reading all the available info.

So, with all that in mind, tell me how I'm defending him because I "like his music?"

Or, we can ignore that a company belonging to the accuser's went into debt for 24 million and decided to sue Jackson's estate for the exact figure, 2 days later, as he magically remembered he had sex with Jackson and that it was wrong, when he is approaching his 40s

Or, we can ignore that the other accuser begged the estate for a job, working on the MJ tribute show in LV, but decided to cry wolf when he was told no, and the fact a judge already told him, "no trier of fact could ever believe your story"

We can ignore the fact he gave 500 million quid of his own money to various charities, helped save children's lives by sending people around the world to look for matching organ doners, had Make A Wish kids visit NL every day of the year, threatened promoters with cancelling concerts unless they got proper facilities for patients in Children's hospitals, sent kids and adults in Kosovo and Sarajavo supplies when all that horror was going on

We can ignore all that and just blindly go with the current media narrative that MJ bad, fans are bad bull****
LN has over 70 provable lies in it, to the point they even lied about a building that wasn't even built during the timeline of "abuse"
They edited audio and clips, just to make it look incriminating. All the original clips are up on YT and online
I find it absolutely laughable people lap it up as "the truth" and for what?
The director made homophobic and racist remarks about him on Twitter...People laughed at it and yet, we're supposed to be moving away from all that crap?

As I said, no wonder the world is ****ed

Raconteuse

Crikey I didn't even quote you.

MOR316

Raconteuse wrote: »

Crikey I didn't even quote you.

I'm on lunch and I can't afford the Christmas party tonight so, venting my energy on here