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Dara Murphy TD gorging at the trough?

  • 30-11-2019 11:44am
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/fg-s-dara-murphy-based-in-brussels-for-two-years-but-claiming-4-300-monthly-d%C3%A1il-allowance-1.4098598
    Cork North Central TD Dara Murphy has claimed his full parliamentary and travel allowances of €4,300 per month despite not having spoken in the Dáil for almost two years.
    Mr Murphy is expected to take up a new post as deputy head of cabinet for Bulgarian EU commissioner Mariya Gabriel in December. If he is appointed to the position he will be required to resign from the Dáil.
    He has the lowest attendance record of all 158 TDs.
    However, Mr Murphy has been recorded as being present in Leinster House on 55 non-sitting days – among the highest of all TDs.
    Minister for Justice Charlie Flanagan has said that his party colleague Dara Murphy has "a number of questions to answer" about his Dáil attendance record, and the expenses he claimed, over the past two years.
    Speaking on RTÉ, Mr Flanagan said it is "incumbent" on the former Minister of State for European Affairs to answer those questions.

    Are there any FG TDs working for their constuents and the good of the country or are they all milking the system or trying to get on the EU gravy train?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    His tweet feed is mainly retweeting Joseph Daul
    https://twitter.com/daramurphyfg?lang=en


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭sportsfan90


    As one of his constituents, I think it's a good thing that he's been so absent. He's so useless, we're actually better off without him there even though it means we've been short a TD for our area.

    He certainly won't be missed.

    I'll never forget his performance on Vincent Browne trying to explain the difference between GDP and GNP (Hint: he completely fcuked up).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEcUBXI4ZX8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    To my mind, that's out and out fraud. AGS should be involved. How many dole cheats add up to a single Dara Murphy? Anyone care to do the sums? A TD's salary plus tax free expenses and he hasn't been doing the job in years.

    I'm not typically one for outrage, but this guy's head should be on a metaphorical pike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭winter2019


    As one of his constituents, I think it's a good thing that he's been so absent. He's so useless, we're actually better off without him there even though it means we've been short a TD for our area.

    He certainly won't be missed.

    I'll never forget his performance on Vincent Browne trying to explain the difference between GDP and GNP (Hint: he completely fcuked up).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEcUBXI4ZX8

    Jesus that’s an eye opener of a video. What an arrogant incompetent buffoon. Vincent Browne tore him to shreds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭mountai


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/fine-gael-td-dara-murphy-formally-resigns-from-the-dil-38753209.html


    If Varadkar had any moral compass , he should demand all monies that Murphy claimed from the State be reimbursed . He should also "Un-appoint" him from his cushy number in Europe . Is this the standard of person Ireland wishes to be represented by . And they take a homeless child to court for stealing a bottle of Fizz . What times we live in .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    As one of his constituents, I think it's a good thing that he's been so absent. He's so useless, we're actually better off without him there even though it means we've been short a TD for our area.

    He certainly won't be missed.

    I'll never forget his performance on Vincent Browne trying to explain the difference between GDP and GNP (Hint: he completely fcuked up).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEcUBXI4ZX8


    The VB video - yep, I remember it well.

    But piggytroughnose Dara would be only taking the lead from his dear leader, Leo the lion.
    He was also well known for not having a fcking clue about anything and was exposed regularly on VB as being absolutely vacant of ideas or comprehension about virtually any question asked yet he's now the Taoiseach.



    It appears Dara wobbled into the Dail last night, voted to save the Minister for REITS then promptly tendered his resignation thereby according to the rules reported, avoiding any inquiry into his alleged fraudulent conduct.
    Oh and he immediately steps into a 150k job in Europe (the one he's being doing for the past 2 years but claiming expenses for attending the Dail)
    So double jobbing, alleged fraud in Dail expenses, hasn't represented his constituents in over 2 years and resigns thereby likely costing another expensive by-election in poor old CNC which had one only last week.



    Never change, Ireland of the troughs...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Yurt! wrote: »
    To my mind, that's out and out fraud. AGS should be involved. How many dole cheats add up to a single Dara Murphy? Anyone care to do the sums? A TD's salary plus tax free expenses and he hasn't been doing the job in years.

    I'm not typically one for outrage, but this guy's head should be on a metaphorical pike.
    Seemingly not against the rules but not in the spirit of good behaviour. It's not a crime but they should take a good look at his "expenses".


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    mountai wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/fine-gael-td-dara-murphy-formally-resigns-from-the-dil-38753209.html


    If Varadkar had any moral compass ,
    he should demand all monies that Murphy claimed from the State be reimbursed . He should also "Un-appoint" him from his cushy number in Europe . Is this the standard of person Ireland wishes to be represented by . And they take a homeless child to court for stealing a bottle of Fizz . What times we live in .

    Hahaha he couldnt give 2 ****s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,126 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Hahaha he couldnt give 2 ****s

    he should , there will be a very fine margin between FF and FG in this upcoming election. He cant introduce another budget between now and then, so he should be doing everything in his power, to give his part the best chance of winning more seats that FF...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    The VB video - yep, I remember it well.

    But piggytroughnose Dara would be only taking the lead from his dear leader, Leo the lion.
    He was also well known for not having a fcking clue about anything and was exposed regularly on VB as being absolutely vacant of ideas or comprehension about virtually any question asked yet he's now the Taoiseach.

    It appears Dara wobbled into the Dail last night, voted to save the Minister for REITS then promptly tendered his resignation thereby according to the rules reported, avoiding any inquiry into his alleged fraudulent conduct.
    Oh and he immediately steps into a 150k job in Europe (the one he's being doing for the past 2 years but claiming expenses for attending the Dail)
    So double jobbing, alleged fraud in Dail expenses, hasn't represented his constituents in over 2 years and resigns thereby likely costing another expensive by-election in poor old CNC which had one only last week.

    Never change, Ireland of the troughs...

    You're right, it's actually disgusting what Dara Murphy was allowed get away with.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    he should , there will be a very fine margin between FF and FG in this upcoming election. He cant introduce another budget between now and then, so he should be doing everything in his power, to give his part the best chance of winning more seats that FF...

    Its very obvious from the way he talks to anyone questioning him, he couldnt give a ****!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭sportsfan90


    Maria Bailey got ravaged over the past 6 months and deservedly so but to me what Dara Murphy has been doing is much worse.

    No doubt Bailey showed an incredible lack of self awareness and entitlement and was correctly removed from the FG ticket.

    But for me Dara Murphy should be considered a criminal for what he's been doing. What he feels justifies his arrogant is beyond me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Maria Bailey got ravaged over the past 6 months and deservedly so but to me what Dara Murphy has been doing is much worse.

    No doubt Bailey showed an incredible lack of self awareness and entitlement and was correctly removed from the FG ticket.

    But for me Dara Murphy should be considered a criminal for what he's been doing. What he feels justifies his arrogant is beyond me.
    The rules seem to say he and others can so you change the rules so they can't. Need a good audit of what he claimed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,660 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    The journals story - see the bottom:

    https://www.thejournal.ie/dara-murphy-4917764-Dec2019/

    Comments are closed due to the extremely high number of flagged comments

    Fg spin machine out in full force!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,316 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    he should , there will be a very fine margin between FF and FG in this upcoming election. He cant introduce another budget between now and then, so he should be doing everything in his power, to give his part the best chance of winning more seats that FF...

    I'm not sure FG have the same burning drive to stay top dog that FF would have in their position. If it becomes clear that the next government can only be formed by another arrangement of some sort between FF and FG, I suspect many in FG would be quite happy, in their heart of hearts, to return the favour FF have been doing them and support a minority FF government.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Maria Bailey got ravaged over the past 6 months and deservedly so but to me what Dara Murphy has been doing is much worse.

    No doubt Bailey showed an incredible lack of self awareness and entitlement and was correctly removed from the FG ticket.

    But for me Dara Murphy should be considered a criminal for what he's been doing. What he feels justifies his arrogant is beyond me.


    I was only saying the same this morning to a friend, if she got a roasting for her behaviour he deserves to be burnt to a crisp. He lives less than a mile from me and I've not seen him once in the the almost 9 years since he became a TD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    He certainly won't be missed.

    I'll never forget his performance on Vincent Browne trying to explain the difference between GDP and GNP (Hint: he completely fcuked up).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEcUBXI4ZX8

    I miss Vincent ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,861 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Just read about FFs Brian Crowley who was at the exact same think and not a peep about it.

    There is definitely a concentrated effort to finish FG off for good.

    Time will tell if it’s a good thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭sportsfan90


    Just read about FFs Brian Crowley who was at the exact same think and not a peep about it.

    There is definitely a concentrated effort to finish FG off for good.

    Time will tell if it’s a good thing.

    Crowley's case was slightly different as his absence was due to illness compared to Murphy's double-jobbing.

    Still he too should have resigned his seat when it was clear he wouldn't be able to carry out his duties.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    4,300 a month that's two salaries of €25,800 a year, nice one...

    The mind boggles, reminds me of that Spitting image sketch of John Major going around to constituents before an election, telling everyone at their doors they're stupid...

    It's something else


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    mountai wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/fine-gael-td-dara-murphy-formally-resigns-from-the-dil-38753209.html


    If Varadkar had any moral compass , he should demand all monies that Murphy claimed from the State be reimbursed . He should also "Un-appoint" him from his cushy number in Europe . Is this the standard of person Ireland wishes to be represented by . And they take a homeless child to court for stealing a bottle of Fizz . What times we live in .

    This isn't news to Leo. Lord in the Irish Times suggests it's a known running joke for years like with Enda Kenny. They turn up just enough to claim expenses and such, but sure "welfare cheats cheat us all". Hypocrites and shysters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Just read about FFs Brian Crowley who was at the exact same think and not a peep about it.

    There is definitely a concentrated effort to finish FG off for good.

    Time will tell if it’s a good thing.

    What with Farrell, and Bailey at the old insurance claim shenanigans, then later at the expense shenanigans too, (along with others in the party might I add), now Darragh Double Jobbing Murphy, I gotta ask this........

    Is it coming from within the party itself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,861 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    What with Farrell, and Bailey at the old insurance claim shenanigans, then later at the expense shenanigans too, (along with others in the party might I add), now Darragh Double Jobbing Murphy, I gotta ask this........

    Is it coming from within the party itself?

    Something at play alright or it’s just the era where everything is now found out due to social media and phones.

    No one gets away with anything anymore.

    Which is a good thing.

    Many a scandal buried and lost in the past as things were a lot different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    I think FG get confused and the wheels come off when they find themselves in charge for too long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Something at play alright or it’s just the era where everything is now found out due to social media and phones.

    No one gets away with anything anymore.

    Which is a good thing.

    Many a scandal buried and lost in the past as things were a lot different.

    Pretty much - I put it down to Wiffy. Wiffy is everywhere now, and it's so easy to upload your downloads to the cloud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,748 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I think FG get confused and the wheels come off when they find themselves in charge for too long.


    Actually, it is just that FG don't resort to the same recklessness that FF do.

    Can anyone imagine a Bertie Ahern government running a €1.5 bn surplus the year before an election?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/1203/1096750-donohoe-eyes-0-4-budget-surplus-on-corporate-tax-boom/


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Actually, it is just that FG don't resort to the same recklessness that FF do.

    Can anyone imagine a Bertie Ahern government running a €1.5 bn surplus the year before an election?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/1203/1096750-donohoe-eyes-0-4-budget-surplus-on-corporate-tax-boom/

    This is just whataboutery. Did you see the thread title?

    Have you a comment on the potentially fraudulent expense claims by Dara Murphy over the last few years? €4,300 per month


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/dara-murphy-has-to-explain-expenses-says-fine-gael-minister-1.4103262
    “I haven’t had a chance to meet Dara Murphy, I will today. I will find out what way or how he came to log in for expenses, was it to do with his job as a TD. I’m told his office was open, he was providing a service, he was still doing his job as a TD. But I will meet him and discuss that with him,” Mr English said.

    “I do believe he has to explain and he will explain whether the money was put to good use because that expenses is to run your office, run your service and provide a service to the people you represent which I believe he was still doing.”
    English said: “Dara Murphy has to explain why he feels he’s entitled to keep the expenses.”

    A party riddled with corrupt self serving TDs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Murphy isn't fraudulent. For that to be the case the government would need working real life restrictions that Murphy didn't follow. Murphy, like Kenny is gaming the system. It's all nice and above board like. Going on for years and every one in FG knows about it. Dishonorable and lacking ethics, but not illegal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    Just listening to the radio now. This is the same knut that called the gardai for a lift to the airport, having refused a taxi. I'd completely forgotten this one. Lower than dogshyte on a shoe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Some cheek of Leo to be coming out saying 'I'll have a word with him' as if this scandal was news to him. Murphy spent his time in Brussels as a campaign manager for the European Peoples Party of which FG are a member. He didnt just wander over there and take that position without FG HQ knowing about it. Pretty two faced of Leo knowing full well that a TD in his party was double jobbing and then when he is caught to act like he didnt know what was going on at all.

    Also notable that you dont hear TDs calling for the one time entry fob system to be replaced with a clock in clock out system. With CCTV and fingerprint recognition bolted on too because they are just not to be trusted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Some cheek of Leo to be coming out saying 'I'll have a word with him' as if this scandal was news to him. Murphy spent his time in Brussels as a campaign manager for the European Peoples Party of which FG are a member. He didnt just wander over there and take that position without FG HQ knowing about it. Pretty two faced of Leo knowing full well that a TD in his party was double jobbing and then when he is caught to act like he didnt know what was going on at all.

    Also notable that you dont hear TDs calling for the one time entry fob system to be replaced with a clock in clock out system. With CCTV and fingerprint recognition bolted on too because they are just not to be trusted.

    This is worth a read..

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/miriam-lord-compo-culture-shock-as-fine-gael-suffers-backlash-injury-1.4105016


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »

    Good article. The public need to see that Fine Gael are taking the absolute piss. How anyone can vote for these self serving muppets is utterly beyond me.

    Dara Murphy is simply laughing at the taxpayer and Leo/Simon condone it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭sportsfan90




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Also notable that you dont hear TDs calling for the one time entry fob system to be replaced with a clock in clock out system. With CCTV and fingerprint recognition bolted on too because they are just not to be trusted.

    That would be New Politics and Fine Gael only talk about that. It was all a nonsense.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Murphy getting a roasting on the Tonight Show.

    Leo's inaction too. The whole Dail knows he was double jobbing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Accountability to the taxpayer ?


    There simply is none.


    I don't see the disctinction between social welfare fraud and this case myself. But someone managed to draw the lines. The TD's. Voting for each other in the chambers, not even in the country on a long term basis on an agreed job representing FG interests, rather than the constituents who voted them into public office. Who would be an electorate !

    I assume he got the EU job on the basis of his CV, which to my mind is now tainted. Tonight Show claims he will be entitled to half a mill in walking away between pensions etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    As unacceptable as SW fraud is (and it certainly is), this is an order of magnitude worse. It happened presumably under the nose of the FG parliamentary party and the tacit approval of the Taoiseach. Did it never occur to him to say 'wait a second, where's my TD for Cork North-Central'?

    Reminds me of the 'no-show' union jobs in mob movies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Seamai wrote: »
    I was only saying the same this morning to a friend, if she got a roasting for her behaviour he deserves to be burnt to a crisp. He lives less than a mile from me and I've not seen him once in the the almost 9 years since he became a TD.

    You have to wonder how on earth hes still getting elected. People just dont realise how important it is to vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    You have to wonder how on earth hes still getting elected. People just dont realise how important it is to vote.

    Michael Lowry had the biggest car to answer to the taxpayer yet is returned to of the poll every election.
    Mick Wallace fleeced the vat man for a million quod and more yet has been sent to Europe.
    Not a whisper about Healy rae clocking in early just to make sure to get to a funeral in Kerry. I guess he'll get to of the poll too next election.

    So it's all good folks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    is_that_so wrote: »
    The rules seem to say he and others can so you change the rules so they can't. Need a good audit of what he claimed.

    The terms and conditions in any employment I've been in have always included a clause precluding outside employment that would interfere with my responsibilities to my employer.

    If you look at publicjobs.ie the current public service temporary clerical officer position information booklet for candidates has a similar condition

    Outside Employment
    The position will be whole time and you may not engage in private practice or be connected with any outside business which would interfere with the performance of official duties.


    Yet our politicians see nothing wrong with absenting themselves from their elected position, claiming their full salary, expenses and attendance allowances while being and being paid to do another job elsewhere.

    It's about time our politicians, of all political persuasions and nine, held themselves to the same standards as everyone else in the country is held to.

    Is it any wonder the turnout in the recent by elections was so low in the face of such systematic and cynical hypocrisy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/doublejobbing-murphy-cannot-be-investigated-after-his-resignation-38755854.html

    Looks like Dara Murphy has made a mug out of Leo. Murphy resigning puts him out of reach of any potential sanctions. Not only did he not represent his voters for two years but he pocketed almost 105,000 euros in expenses in that time. Further more he walks with pension and severance package of 500,000 euro.
    These people are laughing at the electorate.
    Leo is in a spot of bother now as he fully backed Murphy and defended him .
    Begs a question why have a TD for FG in Cork when with Leo's permission he was allowed spend two years working full time in Brussels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,433 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Leo is fine, this will blow over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    he gamed the system. there's a lot of it about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Did Leo really not know what Double jobber Murphy was up to/not up to? If not that makes him incompetent.

    Or did he know, but turn a blind eye? If so, that makes him complicit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,573 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    how does he get a severance package, apart form pension entitlements you walk out of a job you get your wages and thats it surely.

    great little country


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,423 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    Welfare cheats cheat us all, am I right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Wibbling wonder


    There isn't a hope in hell of any meaningful reform amongst that lot. Massive pensions, golden parachutes if they lose their seat, unvouched expenses and god knows what else.

    Would be like Turkeys voting for Christmas thinking they'll stop lining their pockets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    FG have a nice problem now. Yer man may be out of reach of Dáil procedural accountability but cutting and running to Brussels doesn’t mean he can’t be made to answer. If the post he has gone to needs political sanction from FG they can withdraw it; if it doesn’t they can look at other party based procedures.

    But they won’t. Landlords party will just hunker down and think about the electorate: who else can they vote for?

    Will the electorate prove the Landlords Party right?


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    Ahhh. Another FG bashing thread. What a surprise.


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