Al Porter

Millionaire only not

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/sexual-assault-case-dropped-against-comedian-al-porter-38731829.html

where are all the #ibelievehim crew

gmisk

[Deleted User] wrote: »

where are all the #ibelievehim crew

Non existent...and rightfully so...this case might have been dropped...but...

crossman47

Why can't the complainant be named? If the accusation was false, he should be.

lilmissprincess

Charges being dropped by the DPP does not automatically mean that an accusation is false - naming an accuser may prevent other victims from coming forward to police in future.

glenfieldman

Look, the charges are dropped, he is now a free innocent man. What ever he is alleged to have done, and yes maybe he grabbed some bloke. But if the roles were reversed Im sure a lot of you guys on here wouldnt be running to the high court if some lovely bird grabbed a piece of you.
I know if some bird in Coppers grabbed my tool id be running for the condon machine, not the high court.
This crap happened all the time (back in the day, 1998, The HARP) I never heard of someone suing someone for grabbing them.
If you didnt like it you sorted it the normal way

glenfieldman

I am in no way friends of family of Al Porter, but I had the pleasure to see him in the LL and he absolutly ripped the house down. I dont buy into this AL RAPED me ****, remember what happend to Louis Walsh, I hope the guy get a second chance on the radio because he is 10 times better that most of the crap.
If Al is reading this, your "the only Gay in Tallaght" was funny 4 years ago. you have had 3 years to get new material, and im looking forward to seeing it

qwerty13

I find situations like this hard to know what to think. Ok, so legally he isn’t being prosecuted. And innocent until proven guilty.

But there was a lot of talk about how he felt very free to grab men by the crotch. And that’s just not acceptable. Ever.

But then is that just anecdotal, or was that a lot of people who started saying that’s how he operates. And at the time, he was doing quite well, and in a very precarious game like comedy, I can understand how that would feel intimidating, ie ‘I can’t make a fuss, or else he’ll tell his far more famous / influential friends not to book me’. Isn’t that the essence of the ‘me too’ stuff?

Having said that, yes there can of course be accusations without any foundation.

joeysoap

The justice system, whether you are charged or not, works at a snails pace in this country. The chaps life has been ruined, why wasn’t a decision one way or the other made 3 years ago?

It’s the same with murder cases, years to get to court. Other countries seem to have no problem with shorter time frames.

qwerty13

I don’t know enough (or anything) to comment re length of time to bring a case to court. However, we seem to have it slightly better than other jurisdictions whose media feel free to name and shame straight away. Having said that though, everyone knew it was AP being charged.

Grayditch

I feel like... and this isn't reasonable or nice... even if he didn't do it...

it's been great that he hasnt been around. Because he's awful. Like if James Corden was done for murder and he was innocent, you have to look at the positives.

I'm just being "glass half full" here.

Calhoun

I would say its going to be hard to dodge this one even with the charges being dropped.

There was allot of rumors going on at the time and apparently things weren't limited to one person.

We shall see, personally i liked him on the blind date program he did but i can also see that he probably will be out in the cold for a while longer.

qwerty13

Grayditch wrote: »

I feel like... and this isn't reasonable or nice... even if he didn't do it...

it's been great that he hasnt been around. Because he's awful. Like if James Corden was done for murder and he was innocent, you have to look at the positives.

I'm just being "glass half full" here.

It’s probably very very wrong that I just laughed at that. Hey, you’re funnier than Al P!

qwerty13

Calhoun wrote: »

I would say its going to be hard to dodge this one even with the charges being dropped.

There was allot of rumors going on at the time and apparently things weren't limited to one person.

We shall see, personally i liked him on the blind date program he did but i can also see that he probably will be out in the cold for a while longer.

The rumours were not only re people trying to get a foothold in comedy, but also about a very vulnerable person. So hard to know: true? Vendetta? Inappropriate but not grabby behaviour? Crotch grabbing? I’m not sure if there was a more serious accusation than that.

Calhoun

qwerty13 wrote: »

The rumours were not only re people trying to get a foothold in comedy, but also about a very vulnerable person. So hard to know: true? Vendetta? Inappropriate but not grabby behaviour? Crotch grabbing? I’m not sure if there was a more serious accusation than that.

Well i didn't even know about people trying to get a leg up in comedy i was more aware of the vulnerable person.

Even if he did half of what they have said he did its still sexual harassment and would you really want someone like that around.

The problem he has is that it wasn't one lone person like the Louis Walsh case there was many people.

qwerty13

To be fair, the others in comedy stuff was just things I read. Could be untrue. But there was a lot of that going around. On the one hand I think not that much smoke without fire; but is that fair either? I don’t know.

I did wonder if it was perceived differently as it’s a bloke allegedly groping blokes. And I’m female btw. I just thought if that was a relatively established male public figure behaving like that with far lesser known female figures, there’d be far more outrage. And I’m not trying to politicise that. That’s just my belief.

Hasn’t quite thought of it that way re the LW incident, good point.

Calhoun

I think his problem regardless is that what he was doing was more than likely sexual harassment which is still a problem for him. Either way i think he is going to have to lay low for a while before he can rehabilitate.

The career he did have is now dead i would say that is a certainty.

You have a point on it being perceived differently because its male on male, we shall see how it plays out.

RabbleRouser2k

This is just 'one' accusation-there are many others.
So he's unlikely to be back in the spotlight for a while-especially as many comics have spoken on twitter (as have other presenters) about the rumours surrounding him.

He still has many other accusers.And many, many big names are calling him out on twitter.

Case in point.

https://twitter.com/chizmund/status/1199863797411958784

And

https://twitter.com/DangerFarm/status/1199759213179920388

There are many who know of his 'predilections'. That they don't speak out is appalling.

qwerty13

To me it sounds like a repeated pattern of behaviour re sexual harassment, which fitted in with his persona as a comedian. Or should I say that he used his exaggerated persona as a comedian to behave as though grabbing people was just in line with his stage persona. Not acceptable though, by a long shot.

I defo think that it’s got far less attention than if he was into females.

But look, case has been dropped, so maybe I’m in the wrong thinking that he’s done those things

glenfieldman

Im going to explain this again,
If this was a beautiful woman grabbing the micky of some lad in Coppers (which happens every weekend) it would never see the light of day. The poor guy would be delighted
But the fact Al was a known media personality, thats the reason it went to the court, and the media circus court,
the poor guy was thrown to the lions without any real evidence

qwerty13

Have to say that I disagree a lot. He wasn’t having randomers grab him. He was grabbing the mickey of men who were involved in the same area of work as him. So famous-ish guy. Mickey grabbing of newbies. Can you not see that’s more than a bit out of order??

It would be well out of order anyway, whether it was male to female, older to younger. But him being the senior-ish person, in a pursuit where it’s all about contacts?? Just no.

Hoboo

glenfieldman wrote: »

Im going to explain this again,
If this was a beautiful woman grabbing the micky of some lad in Coppers (which happens every weekend) it would never see the light of day. The poor guy would be delighted
But the fact Al was a known media personality, thats the reason it went to the court, and the media circus court,
the poor guy was thrown to the lions without any real evidence

Worst attempt ever.

Calhoun

glenfieldman wrote: »

Im going to explain this again,
If this was a beautiful woman grabbing the micky of some lad in Coppers (which happens every weekend) it would never see the light of day. The poor guy would be delighted
But the fact Al was a known media personality, thats the reason it went to the court, and the media circus court,
the poor guy was thrown to the lions without any real evidence

Would men really be happy with it ? What if it was a male celebrity groping women?

When does it not become acceptable to use your fame to get away with groping someone ?

mikep

I feel a "Poor me, I'm a sex addict" article in a tabloid coming soon..

He will tell us he has had help and has conquered his demons brought on from feeling like the only gay in Tallaght and explain that the inappropriate behaviour was due to overwhelming cravings due to sex addiction...

As I think he is a crap comedian who is rehashing much that has been done before I hope he just fecks off into obscurity..

Beechwoodspark

From the limited experience I have of his act it was 90% smut and camp sexual “humour”

Can he get away with a similar act now?

RabbleRouser2k

mikep wrote: »

I feel a "Poor me, I'm a sex addict" article in a tabloid coming soon..

He will tell us he has had help and has conquered his demons brought on from feeling like the only gay in Tallaght and explain that the inappropriate behaviour was due to overwhelming cravings due to sex addiction...

As I think he is a crap comedian who is rehashing much that has been done before I hope he just fecks off into obscurity..

He's a narcissist. It doesn't matter if it was a woman groping (as many men have come forward talking about how Katy Perry can be gropey, pants guys, exposing their genitals in front of people) it's still not acceptable,nor is it in any way acceptable. IF you were flirting with someone, and you did that, and they told you to p**s off, then you'd learn your lesson-that would be the end of the night for ya.
Kavanagh (his real name) didn't. He kept doing it. Even when told off.
There are even allegations, from before he found fame, going all the way back to his secondary school days.
He wasn't famous then-he's been doing this crap for ages. He pretty much admitted he did what he did, but claimed it was part of 'an act'.
No, it's not.

All you have to do is go on twitter, type in 'Al Porter' and you'll find numerous people talking about him-and how they've all heard first hand accounts (from victims) or second hand accounts from others.

Couple this with him stealing jokes from other comics, and you see that the guy has serious issues.

mikep

I agree that he has serious issues...won't stop him trying to make a comeback and a tabloid encouraging/promoting it and then relishing in the car crash that eventually happens..

It's interesting that Today FM hadn't done "due diligence" on him before they gave him the radio slot, particularly as Miserable Matt on the last word was decrying FG for not doing same with their election candidate in Wexford..

Calhoun

Does he still work for today FM?

Ash.J.Williams

a tiny part of this is the fact Al jumped the queue and left many of his peers in the comedy bars while he made it to RTE and BBC and Comedy channel.

RabbleRouser2k

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

a tiny part of this is the fact Al jumped the queue and left many of his peers in the comedy bars while he made it to RTE and BBC and Comedy channel.

Possibly... but then again, he was what the likes of RTE 'thought' was contemporary comedy. (Keep in mind, they think Tubridy is 'contemporary'- the guy who wouldn't even get a midweek slot in the time of Gay Byrne or Mike Murphy's days).

A bit of a Frankie Howard type, in many respects. But with even more dated material.

Effects

Calhoun wrote: »

Well i didn't even know about people trying to get a leg up in comedy i was more aware of the vulnerable person.

He did it to small time bands that were on his show as well. Sent unsolicited naked pics. Demanded same back from them or he would make sure their music didn't get played.

Ash.J.Williams

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Possibly... but then again, he was what the likes of RTE 'thought' was contemporary comedy. (Keep in mind, they think Tubridy is 'contemporary'- the guy who wouldn't even get a midweek slot in the time of Gay Byrne or Mike Murphy's days).

A bit of a Frankie Howard type, in many respects. But with even more dated material.

RTE really have their finger on the pulse!

Effects

Calhoun wrote: »

Does he still work for today FM?

What? He was sacked on the spot.

Effects

glenfieldman wrote: »

Im going to explain this again,
If this was a beautiful woman grabbing the micky of some lad in Coppers (which happens every weekend) it would never see the light of day.

Or maybe to put it another way. If it was some big burly lad grabbing your knob in coppers, would you be ok with it? Or say if it was some guy in your workplace, would you be ok with it then?

HildaOgdenx

Effects wrote: »

What? He was sacked on the spot.

He resigned from Today FM.

Effects

HildaOgdenx wrote: »

He resigned from Today FM.

Sure he did. Yeah.

RabbleRouser2k

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

RTE really have their finger on the pulse!

And Porter puts his finger... well,where it shouldn't. (Allegedly).

Effects wrote: »

He did it to small time bands that were on his show as well. Sent unsolicited naked pics. Demanded same back from them or he would make sure their music didn't get played.

Oh cripes... no wonder people on twitter are calling him out.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

mikep wrote: »

I feel a "Poor me, I'm a sex addict" article in a tabloid coming soon..

He will tell us he has had help and has conquered his demons brought on from feeling like the only gay in Tallaght and explain that the inappropriate behaviour was due to overwhelming cravings due to sex addiction...

As I think he is a crap comedian who is rehashing much that has been done before I hope he just fecks off into obscurity..

He could use the Kevin Spacey defence of "I now choose to live my life as a gay man". That worked out really well for him anyway.

Or has that cat already been left out of the bag???

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Calhoun wrote: »

Does he still work for today FM?

He's working on a new radio show format right now called Date Line.

Vicarious Function

There seems to be two threads re AP. I posted in the other one. I hope his career in the entertainment business starts to succeed again.

Riesen_Meal

Vicarious Function wrote: »

There seems to be two threads re AP. I posted in the other one. I hope his career in the entertainment business starts succeed again.

I really hope it doesn't, I know one of the lads he was texting, he's a dirt...

glenfieldman

Effects wrote: »

Or maybe to put it another way. If it was some big burly lad grabbing your knob in coppers, would you be ok with it? Or say if it was some guy in your workplace, would you be ok with it then?

First off id land a punch on said fella, I wouldnt be running to the papers
Al got trial by media

Berserker

Grayditch wrote: »

it's been great that he hasnt been around. Because he's awful.

Totally agree with you. Have never taken to his brand of comedy. The longer he's kept out of the spotlight the better.

glenfieldman wrote: »

Im going to explain this again, If this was a beautiful woman grabbing the micky of some lad in Coppers (which happens every weekend) it would never see the light of day. The poor guy would be delighted.

Speak for yourself. I'm male and I'd take issues with any man or woman grabbing me. Was in a bar in Dublin a few years ago and a lady slapped my ass. She thought it was a bit of fun. I pulled her up over it. My wife gave her a piece of her mind also.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

glenfieldman wrote: »

First off id land a punch on said fella, I wouldnt be running to the papers
Al got trial by media

That's showbiz baby.

Ash.J.Williams

Fieldog wrote: »

I really hope it doesn't, I know one of the lads he was texting, he's a dirt...

was it reported?

it makes me uncomfortable that people can destroy peoples lives without proof.

the first test for mr porter didn't make it to court

Mr E

Mod: Guys, he has been vindicated.

Hearsay, speculation and 'stuff I heard from a friend' is not reason enough to drag his name through the mud any further, regardless of what allegations you have heard.

Thread closed.