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Where do you get your news?

  • 25-11-2019 11:09am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19


    With paywalls on news sites popping up everywhere these days, I'm wondering what subscriptions are worth it? Currently subscribed to The Irish Times with a student account from way back and thinking of adding The Guardian. Would prefer fully independent news, though, are any actually fully independent these days?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,724 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    jonnbinn wrote: »
    With paywalls on news sites popping up everywhere these days, I'm wondering what subscriptions are worth it? Currently subscribed to The Irish Times with a student account from way back and thinking of adding The Guardian. Would prefer fully independent news, though, are any actually fully independent these days?

    I'm a lefty but I find the guardian too biased. It gas add one great info but I don't bother with it. The BBC has great news article without the waffle - about a third the length of guardian articles on the same topic.

    I have a financial times subscription through work and it's very good. FT us usually socially liberal and fiscally conservative. But it's ultimately a pro tory paper vs it's gone full behind Johnson in the UK election at the moment. I presume it will go back to normal after the election.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭GRACKEA


    Dublin Inquirer are great! They aren't a breaking/day to day source but excellent investigative work and cultural features too.

    Irish Times, BBC for everyday news and for features Guardian and BBC Future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,430 ✭✭✭bladespin


    I wouldn't pay for a newsfeed, I have the RTE news app for any 'big' news stories otherwise most news I'll pick up on FB etc and research myself rather than trust the generally bias approach of most outlets these days.

    MasteryDarts Ireland - Master your game!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭wellwhynot


    Breakingnews.ie
    The journal.ie
    Broadsheet
    The Guardian


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,733 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    If I google a certain name/incident that's in the news and am presented with a range of links to click on, the ones I'll choose (first anyway) are the BBC, Independent.co.uk, thehill.com (for US stuff). NY Times as well, but they only allow a certain amount of free content. More and more sites are limiting the free content these days, sadly (but understandably).


    Not much choice for Irish stuff. RTE is ok, the Irish Times has the most/best in-depth reporting but you only get a limited amount of free content, and the Indo makes you sign up, which I won't do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    BBC and the guardian, but getting tired of the woke bull**** there...

    DW news is decent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Newsthump and The Onion usually.

    Soccer On Sunday for sports.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    After Hours


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    Only news site I use is Waterford Whispers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,896 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    BBC news website. Pick up an Irish Times most days.
    Occasionally visit Al Jazeera. Used to visit CNN but have given it up in the Trump era.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Irish Times, a little biased towards the landed folk.
    Independent, (it's a like a comic, with the body of a spider) improved a lot since Dinny left.
    RTE, good for the bare bones.
    CNN, defo Liberal biased spin but gives facts.
    Blanch, keeps me grounded ;)

    Put them all together and draw my own conclusions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Babylon bee is a great new one :D:D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭LoughNeagh2017


    My mother tells me the local pariah news, other news doesn't interest me. I refuse to listen to those rancid Belfast news shows with their rancid accents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭TefalBrain


    So CNN finally reaps the rewards of the farcical coverage they have given the last few years

    Maybe if they'd had a more balanced unbiased view of the world and hadn't attempted to shove liberal woke nonsense down viewers throats for years they'd have held unto viewers that bit longer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,828 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    CNN obviously



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭thomil


    I get a morning briefing from Alexa, mostly compiled from DW News and Reuters. I have a NY Times subscription, simply because 2€ a month is a steal. Seriously, the recipes alone are worth it 😉 Beyond that, I have a pretty wide set of sources from the Guardian to the Stars & Stripes, the latter being a holdover from my times as a US military contractor.

    For news from home, I tend to focus on Tagesschau, as they're one of the few non-hysterical sources left in Germany. Even Der Spiegel, which used to be excellent, has gone down the drain, and the less said about Bild, Welt, and the other outgrowths of that abomination unto Cthulhu that is Axel Springer, the better.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Yeah.... This has nothing to do with be fall in cable television wholesale across the board and the consumption of media via internet and social media and Twitter.....

    You quite literally joint dots that don't exist because someone from a russia bot farm told you what to think..



    To answer the OP I only listen to shills for russian bots here. The provide the most comedic news sources.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,411 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Gemma



  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cork examiner or star




    Daily mail and express have far and away the best for headlines though......too full of royalty shite though,but guess thats there market🤢



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭TefalBrain




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    In the past, I used to gobble up news at every opportunity. Daily papers, weekend papers, TV current affairs programs. Over the last 8 years or so I have gone off most of it as I just can't figure out why the quality of journalism has nose-dived into a vat of yabbdabbdooo. It's not so much to the truth anymore, more the reporters often 'rank-own' personal views that keeps coming out. In the old days, reporters did care to get to the truth. I just do not see that quality anymore.

    Dan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    You don't need to pay for Guardian. I use them for live blogs, they are best for that.

    Irish Times subscription, I think they are best in Ireland

    The Times: I don't mind the tory bias but the only reason I'm paying subscription is because of their Style section. One has to have priorities.

    I think OH subscribed to NY Times a few weeks ago but I didn't overly read that one yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭redlad12


    Bbc news



  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    For the drivel that passes as journalism these days, headlines and comments sections. :D

    If I'm doing proper research, I use the articles merely as links to primary sources. So many articles are press releases with minor, but sometimes revealing, edits. Outlets have biases, as do primary sources, so that has to be factored in too; hopefully against a backdrop of common sense, some sort of empirical approach to reality, and meaningful and easily shared interpretations.

    Two things to always keep in mind: The allegory of the cave and the unreliability of witness testimony. You weren't there when the event being reported on occured, you only have the hearsay of a journalist. It's like gazing at shadows on a cave wall and thinking you're looking at reality. But even if you were there when the event occured, memory is an unreliable faculty and your recollection of events may not be entirely accurate. So, take it all with a pinch of salt, including your own experiences.. all you need to know is that politicians are the dregs of every society and journalists are even worse. :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain


    Telly- RTE mainly, dip into Sky News for anything big happening in the UK.

    Apps- Indo and IT, Daily Mail for UK and US news as, if you can look past some of the hyperbole, the layout is excellent and photos are far more detailed than any ther news source. The Journal only because it's handy but its editorial policy is an embarrassment. Radical left, anti Brexit, fact checks full of more holes than Calcutta.

    Very honourable mention for Gript. Often more of a "news behind the news" site, casting a critical analysis on the oft times biased, or plain lying, reporting of the mainstream media, particularly their articles breaking down the actual numbers and stats behind hyperbolic Covid headlines.

    Their story last week about how hospitalised Covid case nunbers are doctored for effect has already shamed Leo into action on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Watch the 6 o clock news to see whats happening here and online Daily Mail, The Mirror or BBC News.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    I've a subscription to Readly. There are various magazines and newspapers that come from across the ideological spectrum available.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭MontgomeryClift


    It has to be The Jerusalem Post.

    Today's top story: "Swastika carved into US State Department elevator"

    Imagine if I hadn't known about that!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain


    Hardly any worse than the Indo. How in the jaysus is an Instagram update by Roz Purcell, comments made by Vogue Williams on a Podcast no coont likely listens to, Rob Kearney's bird live blogging from an Australian quarantine hotel, the mind boggles really.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭MontgomeryClift


    The front page story in one of the tabloids the other day was about some z-lister (Kerry Katona or one of those?) closing her Twitter account.

    To be fair, it is good that we can get so many narratives now, as long as we're aware that they are just that, narratives.

    I listen to the radio in the car just so I can tell where the technocracy is taking us. I'm not listening to the discussion, I'm listening to the narrative being disguised as discussion, and asking "What are they preparing us for? What are they trying to make us believe?" etc.

    A common tactic is having an "expert" on to discuss what must be done about something (Covid-19, say). The expert lightly admonishes the government for not being quick enough to do something that the technocracy has every intention of telling the government to do anyway.

    Written news becomes amusing when you look at it this way. The Guardian's "liberal" agenda, which looks like a parody of social justice gone mad, makes sense when you see that it depends on corporate interests for revenue. It's also backed by a trust that is actually a limited company, and has deep ties to global banking multinationals like HSBC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato



    You didn't get as far as the second paragraph then? 🙄

    "The pioneering 24-hour news channel will be hiring hundreds of new employees for the service to be called CNN+ that will debut in early 2023."

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭Tork


    Newspapers have gone to the dogs but how could it be otherwise, given the changes in how we get our news? Many newspapers aren't making the money they used to, which has reduced their resources. They now have to keep their websites updated throughout the day to keep up with their competitors. So is cheaper to have people writing opinion pieces and to get overexcited because some d-lister updated their Instagram.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,430 ✭✭✭bladespin


    I certainly wouldn't be subscribing to any news outlet, every one of them seems to have some form of vested interest (varying sides etc), not doing the conspiracy nut thing but if Covid has taught us anything it's that they're all very polar, no alternative argument is entertained.

    MasteryDarts Ireland - Master your game!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,724 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09



    You can day that but its a bit cynical. Some news outlets behave in that way and others don't (or they do it to a much lesser degree).

    Some news topics are more opinion based than others such as financial policy or whether immigration or women are a good thing or not. And some news outlets have pretty clear stances on those questions. But other news sources are pretty straight down the line.

    The Financial Times is a good source of news. The articles are short and usually pretty devoid of political bias. It takes a snippy tone when something is pretty obviously wrong, but it's generally very good.

    Some topics are reported pretty well in various publications. Science and technology news (I don't mean advertisements for the latest phone disguised as a news article or an unbiased review) are usually available pretty freely and once you get past the sensational headline, they're usually very good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,430 ✭✭✭bladespin


    I’ll admit the FT weren’t high on my radar, always thought it was a bit ‘above’ me tbh and never really considered, will definitely give their feed a look anyway.

    MasteryDarts Ireland - Master your game!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,724 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    It's an interesting idea to think a news outlets is above you and then complain that the news that isn't above you is crap. But with that said, I certainly consider tabloids below the standard of news I want. The FT is not all about stock prices for companies you've never heard of (which I probably thought it was before reading it).

    It's a good news outlet. It's not free but you get what you pay for in this regard. If you use a "free" source of news then they rely on clicks for revenue so any old content that gets clicks will do. In other words, you're their product, not the consumer as they produce clicks and get paid by advertisers. If you pay for the news then you are the end consumer and they have to make good news to keep the consumers coming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,430 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Just to clarify, I always associated the FT with more business related news than general, also didn’t realize there’s an Irish edition for news relevant to me, will check it out.

    Don’t remember saying anything was crap, just biased in general, no I don’t use tabloids either just feeds like Irish Times,RTE, Examiner etc made me cynical (Though they could be tabloid, maybe).

    MasteryDarts Ireland - Master your game!



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