Who exactly is a single parent?

political analyst

I'm come across references in the media to divorced parents - especially mothers - as 'single parents'.


Obviously, these women are not with the fathers of their children anymore.


But there's no reference to any cases in which the fathers are not involved in bringing-up the children anymore and so it's obvious that the term 'single parent' is being used to describe all divorced mothers - even in cases where the ex-husbands are still involved in bringing-up the children.


Therefore, isn't the use of the term 'single parent' in that specific context misleading?

izzyflusky

I would know divorced/separated fathers who would also refer to themselves as single parents and they don't necessarily have the kids full time or anything. I don't see the problem.

eviltwin

Single refers to relationship status.

A person parenting without any input from the other parent is a lone parent.

One eyed Jack

political analyst wrote: »

I'm come across references in the media to divorced parents - especially mothers - as 'single parents'.


Obviously, these women are not with the fathers of their children anymore.

...

Therefore, isn't the use of the term 'single parent' in that specific context misleading?

No?


They’re parents, they’re either divorced or unmarried so in that specific context, it’s entirely appropriate for anyone in those circumstances to refer to themselves as single or for people to refer to them as single.

A parent who is single. It's not rocket surgery.

the beer revolu

I'm angry

Akrasia

How did this thread get past the after hours rigorous quality control process

Blaizes

To me a single parent could be someone who parents alone( other parent not involved with child) or it could be the parent whom the child or children live with for the majority of the time whilst they visit the other parent at weekends. They are two different categories but are all lumped together. Does it really make a difference though? If I meet someone and they say they are a single parent it’s none of my business unless they want to explain further.There are so many different family types now. On top of that I may have offended someone so apologies in advance.

maudgonner

the beer revolu wrote: »

I'm angry

The 8th dwarf, who nobody really talks about since 'the incident'? :eek:

Stop moaning ffs

I’ve two mates who are fathers separated from their spouses and they have kids and they’re both homeless. Both working and paying the support to their ex and the kids and the mortgage. One living in a tent and the other flitting from couch to couch.

It can’t be fvckin Easy no matter the definition. Male or female.

monkeysnapper

the beer revolu wrote: »

I'm angry

Go on go on caller

Quantum Erasure

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

I’ve two mates who are fathers separated from their spouses and they have kids and they’re both homeless. Both working and paying the support to their ex and the kids and the mortgage. One living in a tent and the other flitting from couch to couch.

It can’t be fvckin Easy no matter the definition. Male or female.

and the mothers could be shacked up with a new boyfriend, and refer to themselves as 'single parents', still claiming off the social....

Stop moaning ffs

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

and the mothers could be shacked up with a new boyfriend, and refer to themselves as 'single parents', still claiming off the social....

If that’s what you took from that you probably don’t care coz the aforementioned mothers are all white and Irish.

Limerick_dude

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

I’ve two mates who are fathers separated from their spouses and they have kids and they’re both homeless. Both working and paying the support to their ex and the kids and the mortgage. One living in a tent and the other flitting from couch to couch.

It can’t be fvckin Easy no matter the definition. Male or female.

Quite common and no can't be bloody easy male or female. I'd like to think if i split with the misses she'd sooner see me in the spare room than homeless but i like to see the good in everybody.

Quantum Erasure

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

If that’s what you took from that you probably don’t care coz the aforementioned mothers are all white and Irish.

where, the hell, in anywhere, did i mention race or ethnicity?

Heckler

nine times out of ten its going to be a woman raising a child/children while hopefully getting child support/alimony from a former partner/spouse.

nthclare

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

I’ve two mates who are fathers separated from their spouses and they have kids and they’re both homeless. Both working and paying the support to their ex and the kids and the mortgage. One living in a tent and the other flitting from couch to couch.

It can’t be fvckin Easy no matter the definition. Male or female.

I find that so sad, some women are ruthless when trying to get the family home.
I know of a place in Clare they call it heartbreak hotel.
All single separated men thrown out of the family home which they're still paying for and paying the rent for heartbreak hotel too.

Basically living on 30 euro a week after food bill's rent and mortgage.

The damp running down the walls, these guy's are totally non runner's while trying to get a date too in fairness who wants to meet a guy who can't afford to go away for a weekend, holidays, take someone out for dinner.

While his exe is having Chad over every second weekend and the odd week night arriving in the evening time to a nice warm house and Sandra all kitted out in agent provocateur compliments of her exes maintenance, the state and her cushy job...he pays for half the child minding fees.

Sorry if I'm bringing the thread down but this is quite common.

Heckler

nthclare wrote: »

I find that so sad, some women are ruthless when trying to get the family home.
I know of a place in Clare they call it heartbreak hotel.
All single separated men thrown out of the family home which they're still paying for and paying the rent for heartbreak hotel too.

Basically living on 30 euro a week after food bill's rent and mortgage.

The damp running down the walls, these guy's are totally non runner's while trying to get a date too in fairness who wants to meet a guy who can't afford to go away for a weekend, holidays, take someone out for dinner.

While his exe is having Chad over every second weekend and the odd week night arriving in the evening time to a nice warm house and Sandra all kitted out in agent provocateur compliments of her exes maintenance, the state and her cushy job...he pays for half the child minding fees.

Sorry if I'm bringing the thread down but this is quite common.

Well said. Men are very often the victim of spousal infidelity and the reprecussions. Its they that have to leave the home, lose contact with children and are financially responsible for their partners inability to keep her legs closed.

Mean Laqueefa

nthclare wrote: »

I find that so sad, some women are ruthless when trying to get the family home.
I know of a place in Clare they call it heartbreak hotel.
All single separated men thrown out of the family home which they're still paying for and paying the rent for heartbreak hotel too.

Basically living on 30 euro a week after food bill's rent and mortgage.

The damp running down the walls, these guy's are totally non runner's while trying to get a date too in fairness who wants to meet a guy who can't afford to go away for a weekend, holidays, take someone out for dinner.

While his exe is having Chad over every second weekend and the odd week night arriving in the evening time to a nice warm house and Sandra all kitted out in agent provocateur compliments of her exes maintenance, the state and her cushy job...he pays for half the child minding fees.

Sorry if I'm bringing the thread down but this is quite common.

I keep reading this in a cowboy accent and nodding

BuboBubo

A single parent is a parent who is single.

They might have been previously married, in a relationship or become a parent from a one night stand.

Sometimes a single parent starts a relationship with another single parent, then have more children together. Then you have a "yours, mine and ours" scenario with the children.

I know one couple in this situation and they are very happy with their lot.

Thespoofer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A parent who is single. It's not rocket surgery.

Or even brain science..

nthclare

Heckler wrote: »

Well said. Men are very often the victim of spousal infidelity and the reprecussions. Its they that have to leave the home, lose contact with children and are financially responsible for their partners inability to keep her legs closed.

I know men can be unfaithful too but ironically in my friends situation it was her who was getting up to mischievous behaviour behind his back.

She's no remorse either as she's a mutual friend of mine and he's her exe.
She's never been ****ty with me always pleasant.
Quite attractive too,and she will openly admit that she didn't fancy him really,as her biological clock was ticking, he had a great career to support her and a family.
So she said sure we'll get married have a few kids, if it doesn't work out I'll get everything Anyhow.

Not rocket science.
Her friends validated her infidelity, by saying go with your heart, cold and calculated might I add.

I've no interest in getting married myself and am quite contendly single, apart from the odd fling here and there.

Not all women are cold and calculated, I'd say maybe 10% of women are rogues, 50% of men would get their leg over if the chance presented itself and they'ed never get caught.

I suppose it's the nature of the beast and some people just can't help themselves...

Following their hearts and all

nthclare

Mean Laqueefa wrote: »

I keep reading this in a cowboy accent and nodding

lol go on YouTube and search for Big John MGTOW

read it in his accent lol

Fiery mutant

Reading some of these comments here, and I’m at a loss with some of the thoughts.

I know relationship breakups can be very complicated, and messy, especially with children involved. But if my Other half was to cheat, and the marriage were to break up, there is no ****in way I would leave the house, not a hope.

Feisar

Fiery mutant wrote: »

Reading some of these comments here, and I’m at a loss with some of the thoughts.

I know relationship breakups can be very complicated, and messy, especially with children involved. But if my Other half was to cheat, and the marriage were to break up, there is no ****in way I would leave the house, not a hope.

I'm pretty sure you can be forced to leave. At which point I would go on the scratch.

Paddy Cow

Fiery mutant wrote: »

Reading some of these comments here, and I’m at a loss with some of the thoughts.

I know relationship breakups can be very complicated, and messy, especially with children involved. But if my Other half was to cheat, and the marriage were to break up, there is no ****in way I would leave the house, not a hope.

Some women lie and say they feel threatened and get a barring order.

Rufeo

I suppose someone who's on their own raising a child with no support.from a partner?

Guy:Incognito

Blaizes wrote: »

To me a single parent could be someone who parents alone( other parent not involved with child) or it could be the parent whom the child or children live with for the majority of the time whilst they visit the other parent at weekends. They are two different categories but are all lumped together. Does it really make a difference though? .

It makes a difference when you've interest groups going for their slice of the "most vulnerable in society" pie ( every group must be that at this stage) .

2 people who are divorced and both raising the kid(s) and paying for them arent the same as a lone parent with no one else around.
The both of them could be earning 60 grand each, so that's very different to 1 parent trying to get by on minimum wage.

Mad_maxx

nthclare wrote: »

I find that so sad, some women are ruthless when trying to get the family home.
I know of a place in Clare they call it heartbreak hotel.
All single separated men thrown out of the family home which they're still paying for and paying the rent for heartbreak hotel too.

Basically living on 30 euro a week after food bill's rent and mortgage.

The damp running down the walls, these guy's are totally non runner's while trying to get a date too in fairness who wants to meet a guy who can't afford to go away for a weekend, holidays, take someone out for dinner.

While his exe is having Chad over every second weekend and the odd week night arriving in the evening time to a nice warm house and Sandra all kitted out in agent provocateur compliments of her exes maintenance, the state and her cushy job...he pays for half the child minding fees.

Sorry if I'm bringing the thread down but this is quite common.

Women increase their personal wealth by marrying, men risk becoming poor

Something something patriarchy

Feisar

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Women increase their personal wealth by marrying, men risk becoming poor

Something something patriarchy

The white mans burden.

Andreas77

I have a penis like a slick wet eel. Always hunting for pink. I really want to meet a woman. How I'll do? I'm desperate, pls, I want babies before it's too late