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Registering new car

  • 21-11-2019 11:11pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭


    Looking at getting new car in January, and it was recommended by sales Dept that they would get it registered in Dublin with D plates.
    As a new car I would have expected to have to register with current county I am living in, is there pros and cons to doing this? Would it be easier to resell certain cars at later stage with Dublin plates?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,411 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Normally its registered to the county of the address you provide, however the garage can register it in your name but use their address if they have one in Dublin. Once you get the registration number from them then you can then log into the motor tax website and change the address information to your correct address before taxing it. Once you tax it then the logbook is sent out.

    Pros and cons, there are plenty of the them. What make and model is it? If it's a very common car model then I'd tend to just register it in your home county where it will have no problem selling on. If it's something rare, exotic or with a limited buyer market then I'd tend to stick a D reg on it simply because a car with a very small target market could well either live in the Dublin area or prefer a D reg. If trading the car into a Dublin garage they would probably use the non D reg as a reason to offer you less for it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,046 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    It would add an extra owner to the car, might hit resale value more than having a non D plate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,411 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It would add an extra owner to the car, might hit resale value more than having a non D plate.

    It doesn't actually if done at time of first registration, see my previous post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,492 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Agree with Bazz. If it’s something fairly prestige, it matters to some extent at resale. Put a D reg on it. Otherwise it matters diddly squat.
    You can give any old Dublin address to the dealer for registration purposes. It’s not verified that you actually live there. So if you have a friend, relative in Dublin, use their address and just correct it online when taxing it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    Agree with Bazz. If it’s something fairly prestige, it matters to some extent at resale. Put a D reg on it. Otherwise it matters diddly squat.
    You can give any old Dublin address to the dealer for registration purposes. It’s not verified that you actually live there. So if you have a friend, relative in Dublin, use their address and just correct it online when taxing it.

    Or just put your own address with the county as Co. Dublin. Not only is it not verified whether you live there, it's not verified that the address actually exists.

    Any similar method for an import?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,528 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Or just put your own address with the county as Co. Dublin. Not only is it not verified whether you live there, it's not verified that the address actually exists.

    Any similar method for an import?

    So how do you get your registration certificate?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    So how do you get your registration certificate?

    Simplest thing to do is

    Joe bloggs
    Xyz garage
    Garage Address (If Dublin)

    Tax it, then do a change of address.


    The registration cert isn't issued until you tax it. You tax it online and fix the address while doing so. Nothing simpler that that. No need for any change of address forms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,370 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Optimum wrote: »
    Looking at getting new car in January, and it was recommended by sales Dept that they would get it registered in Dublin with D plates.
    As a new car I would have expected to have to register with current county I am living in, is there pros and cons to doing this? Would it be easier to resell certain cars at later stage with Dublin plates?

    When you say sales dept. do you mean the supplying garage?
    What county do you live in?
    Where will the car most likely be sold?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,528 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The registration cert isn't issued until you tax it. You tax it online and fix the address while doing so. Nothing simpler that that. No need for any change of address forms.

    That’s interesting. So this will change the address on the new VRC. I know on renewal if you change the address it doesn’t generate a new cert but didn’t cop that you could do it on first taxing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    Is it possible the dealer is preregging in order to get their numbers up for a distributor rebate? You need to ask why exactly they are doing this and get it explicitly confirmed if you will be the first owner at registration. There is something fishy going on in my book here and if it is a pre reg in 201, then that needs to be reflected in pricing at the very least


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    That’s interesting. So this will change the address on the new (first) VRC. I know on renewal if you change the address it doesn’t generate a new cert but didn’t cop that you could do it on first taxing.

    Yep, it certainly will


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,411 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    That’s interesting. So this will change the address on the new (first) VRC. I know on renewal if you change the address it doesn’t generate a new cert but didn’t cop that you could do it on first taxing.

    I did it when I bought my car (unregistered import) in Dublin last year. Got the Dublin dealer to register it in my name but using their garage address. I was able to log into the motortax website the following day using the new D reg and the last 7 digits of the car's VIN, updated the address to my correct one in Limerick and then taxed it for the first time. Tax disc and logbook arrived at my Limerick address within a few days. Doesn't work like that on a car you import yourself however as they go off the proof of address you provide when you are VRTing the car yourself.

    FWIW I normally wouldn't be too bothered with this having a D reg stuff but in my case trying to sell on a 3.0 litre car in a few years will have a limited market so sticking a D reg on it at least doesn't restrict some buyers in an already limited market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 920 ✭✭✭RoscommonTom


    fellas dont want to buy d reg motors outside of dublin, all that driving in traffic is bad for cars and the clutches do be destroyed with it,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    If you want the cars reg to have the county your living in then that's what the dealer should do. Personally whatever the car is I'd rather have a reg with my county on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭hurleronditch


    The only letters I’d steer away from when buying a second hand car are DL, everything else is largely irrelevant. I’d probably agree, a high value premium marque, particularly at 5/E/A6 size or above there may be some very small value benefit on sale to having a D, but most intelligent buyers won’t care. (I do realise this implies I’m not intelligent for refusing anything from Donegal!!)


  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Would be unacceptable to me, I would want my home county on the reg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,411 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    fellas dont want to buy d reg motors outside of dublin, all that driving in traffic is bad for cars and the clutches do be destroyed with it,

    Lol. My car has been in Dublin about 5 times since I bought it nearly 2 years ago. Probably best not to mention what the Roscommon reg ones get up to then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Pekarirska


    Everybody is very patriotic and want a car with the plate of their county... but then money comes in play and they buy from an Englishman ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Pekarirska wrote: »
    Everybody is very patriotic and want a car with the plate of their county... but then money comes in play and they buy from an Englishman ;-)

    Yes and still get your county on the reg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭appledrop


    I bought my car outside Dublin but made sure garage registered it to my address in Dublin.

    The truth is most of us Dubs dont like driving cars that dont have D reg!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,370 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    PsychoPete wrote: »
    Yes and still get your county on the reg

    That's the irony.

    You buy the car in Ireland and you are stuck with the plate of some other county.

    Buy it in the UK and you get to put your own county plate on it.

    SIMI missing a trick here ?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Or just put your own address with the county as Co. Dublin. Not only is it not verified whether you live there, it's not verified that the address actually exists.

    That's exactly how it's done.

    I've had D regs for years, and neither I or the garage I buy the new cars from have any presence there.

    I do think it's a positive for resale btw. Won't get any extra money, but it will maximise your target market.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    appledrop wrote: »
    I bought my car outside Dublin but made sure garage registered it to my address in Dublin.

    That's the only place they could have registered it to....


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    That's the only place they could have registered it to....

    You can register a new car to any county.

    Let's say you live in Dublin, but are actually from Donegal and yearn for the county of your birth.

    On buying a brand new car you tell the Dealer register the car to the following address:-

    1 Herbert Park
    Ballsbridge
    Co. Donegal.

    The car will have 192 DL 123x plates.

    You tax it online and change the last line of your address from Co. Donegal to D4.

    Sorted.




    p.s. You'd be mad to put a DL plate on any new car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Lol. My car has been in Dublin about 5 times since I bought it nearly 2 years ago. Probably best not to mention what the Roscommon reg ones get up to then?

    Sheep Shagging in the back seat...:P


  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Truckermal wrote: »
    Sheep Shagging in the back seat...:P

    Sheep stealing is the pass time around Roscommon rather than sheep shagging :D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    Sheep stealing is the pass time around Roscommon rather than sheep shagging :D.

    As a former Rossie I can confirm both of us are correct....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    You can register a new car to any county.

    Let's say you live in Dublin, but are actually from Donegal and yearn for the county of your birth.

    On buying a brand new car you tell the Dealer register the car to the following address:-

    1 Herbert Park
    Ballsbridge
    Co. Donegal.

    The car will have 192 DL 123x plates.

    You tax it online and change the last line of your address from Co. Donegal to D4.

    Sorted.




    p.s. You'd be mad to put a DL plate on any new car.

    I suggested the exact same scenario above. It wasn't relevant to the post I quoted though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    The whole D reg thing is still very important to some non Dublin residents, some people go as far as trying to forge documents with their address to get a D reg....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭bs2014


    Surely the nct centre for vrt purposes would raise an eyebrow on. I'm in a similar position with am import



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The NCT Centre has nothing to do with registration of new cars. Self imported cars may only be registered to the county of registration as you've to provide proof of address to the NCTS.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭bs2014


    OK and I'm assuming it's the same thing if the garage is importing the car on my behalf?



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