BMW nav maps

ezra_

I've recently bought a 162 F30 with the Pro navigation.
I've no idea when this was last updated (if ever).

Do any of the later maps have any of the following:

• Eircodes
• Speed Limits
• the new parts of the M11

Trying to see if its worth paying for the upgrade. The RTI is something that I did pay for and is good.

Hardtochoose

I used to keep mine updated. Then realised I never used the bmw nav anyway. Google maps is far easier to use. By the time you’ve an address typed into the bmw nav system you’d be well on the road using google maps

ezra_

Hardtochoose wrote: »

I used to keep mine updated. Then realised I never used the bmw nav anyway. Google maps is far easier to use. By the time you’ve an address typed into the bmw nav system you’d be well on the road using google maps

I've given up the smart phone! My mobile texts, calls and that is pretty much it...

I find the RTI quite good, but you need to have a destination entered for it to give advice.

ezra_

No one has a recent map?

heroics

ezra_ wrote: »

No one has a recent map?

Tried to update mine about 2 weeks ago and there was a problem with the site. Rang Bmw and they said to try again and I just haven’t had a chance. If I get a chance tomorrow I’ll do it

heroics

Just downloading Europe east next 2020-1 now and I’ll install it in the car tomorrow.

Anything in particular you want me to check?

Clareman

I have a 161 F30 and I don't know the answer to any of your questions but I'll check tomorrow for you.

In mu opinion it's not worth paying BMW to do it for you, check out 1 of the many software updaters who'll give you the software at a fraction of the price. I've used https://new.bimmer-tech.net/ a few times and find them great, I find the Office functionality particularily beneficial as you can see texts/emails on the screen rather than being destracted by the phone, it also allows you to connect 2 phones which is priceless to me cause I've a work and personal phone, which I normally just leave in the central console when I'm driving

Clareman

heroics wrote: »

Just downloading Europe east next 2020-1 now and I’ll install it in the car tomorrow.

Anything in particular you want me to check?

Should it not be the West version??? If you could PM me a link I'll upgrade mine tomorrow to check also

heroics

Clareman wrote: »

I have a 161 F30 and I don't know the answer to any of your questions but I'll check tomorrow for you.

In mu opinion it's not worth paying BMW to do it for you, check out 1 of the many software updaters who'll give you the software at a fraction of the price. I've used https://new.bimmer-tech.net/ a few times and find them great, I find the Office functionality particularily beneficial as you can see texts/emails on the screen rather than being destracted by the phone, it also allows you to connect 2 phones which is priceless to me cause I've a work and personal phone, which I normally just leave in the central console when I'm driving

How much does bimmertech charge?

I have the map packs included until 2020 and it’s 55 per year to extend

heroics

Clareman wrote: »

Should it not be the West version??? If you could PM me a link I'll upgrade mine tomorrow to check also

Haha doh that will teach me to do it in a hurry.

Yep just downloaded the west one now

Clareman

I got free lifetime upgrades off them thanks to leaving a favourable review on Facebook on an older car a few years back so it's worth it. I think they charged $199 for the enhanced bluetooth update the last time I did it, about a month later BMW "upgraded" the software which wiped the enhancment but they re-did it for $75

bazz26

I updated the maps in my 2015 530d earlier tonight to the latest Europe Next 2020-1 West. The map files themselves are available and free if you search the web, however you need a FSC code derived from your car's VIN to decode them during the install. You can buy a lifetime FSC code for your car on the likes of ebay for around €15. With the lifetime FSC code you will only be asked for the FSC code the first time you update the maps, any subsequent map updates on that car going forward will not ask for the FSC code again.

Clareman

Just discovered that I've free map updates until tne end of 2020 anyway so that "lifetime" update isn't much use to me Just have to get to a windows pc now to get the upgrade

Clareman

Completely lazy i know but i just remote desktop connected to a server to check the update, its over 14 gigs in size, jaysus. I presume its ok to update while driving, I've to head to Dublin tomorrow so I'll kick it off before i leave and have it done by the time I get there

Clareman

And i got an automated email with my activation code, as software delivery goes this is a decent service

heroics

Clareman wrote: »

And i got an automated email with my activation code, as software delivery goes this is a decent service

Yep I downloaded it to a USB key and it was 20gb. Plugged the usb into the car and a few mins later got a message on the screen asking did I want to update the map. Then Just happened in the background. Was pretty seemless tbh

It’s actually 26.57GB unzipped on the usb key

ezra_

Thanks guys.

Does the new map have eircode or speed limits present?

heroics

ezra_ wrote: »

Thanks guys.

Does the new map have eircode or speed limits present?

I couldn’t find how to search by eircode anyway

Didn’t check for speed limits although my wife’s 172 x1 has the speed limits pop up on the display. Not sure if sat nav or road sign recognition

bazz26

What version of the iDrive infotainment system does the car have? A 2016 F30 probably has version 5 which wouldn't support Eircodes in the navigation. Speed limit display has nothing to do with the navigation maps but more to do with the features available in the car's iDrive system. I think that feature was an optional extra on the car from the factory when new but wouldn't be a standard feature.

heroics

bazz26 wrote: »

What version of the iDrive infotainment system does the car have? A 2016 F30 probably has version 5 which wouldn't support Eircodes in the navigation. Speed limit display has nothing to do with the navigation maps but more to do with the features available in the car's iDrive system. I think that feature was an optional extra on the car from the factory when new but wouldn't be a standard feature.

Not sure of the versions but
I’ve a 2017 f11 with the wide screen nav

Wife has a 2017 x1 with the standard nav

bazz26

version 5 has menus on the home screen whereas the newer version 6 would have icons.

ezra_

I think I have:
NBT EVO (NBT2)

bazz26

That's version 5.

Wailin

bazz26 wrote: »

I updated the maps in my 2015 530d earlier tonight to the latest Europe Next 2020-1 West. The map files themselves are available and free if you search the web, however you need a FSC code derived from your car's VIN to decode them during the install. You can buy a lifetime FSC code for your car on the likes of ebay for around €15. With the lifetime FSC code you will only be asked for the FSC code the first time you update the maps, any subsequent map updates on that car going forward will not ask for the FSC code again.

Did the map update immediately bazz once it downloaded or did it take awhile? I updated the same, 2020-1 but there is no detail when you zoom in. It's only showing motorways and N roads. Weird.

Clareman

There doesn't seem to be eircodes or speed limits in the latest version I got

bazz26

Wailin wrote: »

Did the map update immediately bazz once it downloaded or did it take awhile? I updated the same, 2020-1 but there is no detail when you zoom in. It's only showing motorways and N roads. Weird.

I downloaded the maps via the web rather than getting them via BMW. Maps took about 30 mins to download and then the iDrive rebooted after the installation. Just make sure you downloaded the correct version of maps for your car.

Clareman wrote: »

There doesn't seem to be eircodes or speed limits in the latest version I got

I don't think those functions will work if your car's version of iDrive doesn't support it.

Wailin

bazz26 wrote: »

I downloaded the maps via the web rather than getting them via BMW. Maps took about 30 mins to download and then the iDrive rebooted after the installation. Just make sure you downloaded the correct version of maps for your car.

Yeah I downloaded them from bimmertech. They provided the FSC code too. Put them on a formatted 64GB usb and it took about 45min to update. Restarted the I-drive and it states the map version is the 2020-1 so it's correct. But it's not showing any detail. I'll contact bimmertech and see what they think.

bazz26

Wailin wrote: »

Yeah I downloaded them from bimmertech. They provided the FSC code too. Put them on a formatted 64GB usb and it took about 45min to update. Restarted the I-drive and it states the map version is the 2020-1 so it's correct. But it's not showing any detail. I'll contact bimmertech and see what they think.

Yeah, I'd say there might be something wrong with the files or they gave you the wrong version, worth a try updating the maps again.

dingding

I searched for eircodes in the BMW phine app and then sent the destination to the car.

Wailin

bazz26 wrote: »

Yeah, I'd say there might be something wrong with the files or they gave you the wrong version, worth a try updating the maps again.

Nope, I'm just an idiot! They gave me the files for both Europe East and West, and yep, I downloaded East.

heroics

Wailin wrote: »

Nope, I'm just an idiot! They gave me the files for both Europe East and West, and yep, I downloaded East.

Ha I did the same

bazz26

Wailin wrote: »

Nope, I'm just an idiot! They gave me the files for both Europe East and West, and yep, I downloaded East.

Yeah they split the NBT Europe Maps for 2020.

Henry Ford III

Aren't sat navs a bit old hat now with the widespread availability and reliability (plus live updates) of the free services such as Android Auto/Apple Car Play?

p.s. BMW owners pay for the Apple service I think. Suckers!

un5byh7sqpd2x0

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Aren't sat navs a bit old hat now with the widespread availability and reliability (plus live updates) of the free services such as Android Auto/Apple Car Play?

p.s. BMW owners pay for the Apple service I think. Suckers!

There no Android Auto support in BMWs, and you've to pay for CarPlay as you said. They are however about to support both with no subscription from next year apparantly.

heroics

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Aren't sat navs a bit old hat now with the widespread availability and reliability (plus live updates) of the free services such as Android Auto/Apple Car Play?

p.s. BMW owners pay for the Apple service I think. Suckers!

My car does not have apple carplay so stuck with sat nav for the moment

BlackMask93

Hi,

Im completely new to updating maps in a BMW . I recently acquired a 2016(2) 4 Series and i would like to upgrade the Maps, i do not have a subscription with Connected Drive.

I know i need to get the FSC code , i've figured i can get that from ebay https://www.ebay.ie/itm/BMW-FSC-CODE-MINI-CIC-NBT-MAP-UPDATE-MOVE-MOTION-PREMIUM-AND-NEXT-2020/303556710183?hash=item46ad63cf27:g:2rAAAOSwqR5dxZvE

Would the above be ok to use to get my FSC Code?

My Map Version is the following within my iDrive Navigation Version
Europa
BMW Group
101152.3.215
Road Map EUROPE EVO 2016-1

NBTevo_E16072A
Automatic map update
GB, IE (2019-2)

What Map version should i be looking for to get the latest (2020), i see that i have a few options being MOVE, NEXT, MOTION, PREMIUM. I do not know which one i need to get for my car.

Would appreciate any help.

bazz26

Paulcon93 wrote: »

Hi,

Im completely new to updating maps in a BMW . I recently acquired a 2016(2) 4 Series and i would like to upgrade the Maps, i do not have a subscription with Connected Drive.

I know i need to get the FSC code , i've figured i can get that from ebay https://www.ebay.ie/itm/BMW-FSC-CODE-MINI-CIC-NBT-MAP-UPDATE-MOVE-MOTION-PREMIUM-AND-NEXT-2020/303556710183?hash=item46ad63cf27:g:2rAAAOSwqR5dxZvE

Would the above be ok to use to get my FSC Code?

My Map Version is the following within my iDrive Navigation Version
Europa
BMW Group
101152.3.215
Road Map EUROPE EVO 2016-1

NBTevo_E16072A
Automatic map update
GB, IE (2019-2)

What Map version should i be looking for to get the latest (2020), i see that i have a few options being MOVE, NEXT, MOTION, PREMIUM. I do not know which one i need to get for my car.

Would appreciate any help.

From the info you posted, your iDrive NAV software is running Road Map EUROPE EVO. From what I can tell the map file to download should be BMW Road Map Europe EVO 2019-4 which was released in March of this year. You seem to have 2019-2 already installed so there might not be many changes in the new version at least for Ireland.

BTW if your buying a FSC code then get a lifetime one, the one you linked to above is only for a one off update. A lifetime FSC code will allow you to update that car's maps indefinitely.

BlackMask93

bazz26 wrote: »

From the info you posted, your iDrive NAV software is running Road Map EUROPE EVO. From what I can tell the map file to download should be BMW Road Map Europe EVO 2019-4 which was released in March of this year.

I found ROAD MAP EUROPE EVO 2020-1 here https://oemnavigations.com/road-map-europe-evo-2020-1-free-download

Am i ok to get this download?

bazz26

I think it's the same thing but not 100% sure. Maybe best to use the online chat on that website to be certain before installing it.

BlackMask93

bazz26 wrote: »

I think it's the same thing but not 100% sure. Maybe best to use the online chat on that website to be certain before installing it.

Unfortunately they do not offer support with the free maps section.

Ill keep looking for more info before i commit to installing.

dingding

heroics wrote: »

I couldn’t find how to search by eircode anyway

Didn’t check for speed limits although my wife’s 172 x1 has the speed limits pop up on the display. Not sure if sat nav or road sign recognition

Its road sign recognition

SidinNaas

Still an issue in a brand new X5. If you have Ireland as the country you can only search eircodes in the "Quick search". If you put any letter into the "Enter city/town or postcode" field the option to then add numbers is removed so not possible to enter eircodes here. If you change country to UK you can enter postcodes in the "Enter city/town or postcode". Seems to be an issue with Ireland. I notified BMW Connected Drive and they just referred me to my local retailer.