Scooter on Dual-Carriageway

c.p.w.g.w · 16-11-2019 1:25am #1

Hey

Just a quick one, is there any restrictions on scooter in dual carriageway?

I mean scooters like this,
https://www.bikeworld.ie/site/motorcycle/sym-fiddle-iii-50/
not a e-scooter

Irishphotodesk · 16-11-2019 1:42am

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Hey

Just a quick one, is there any restrictions on scooter in dual carriageway?

I mean scooters like this,
https://www.bikeworld.ie/site/motorcycle/sym-fiddle-iii-50/
not a e-scooter

Pretty sure you need to be above 50cc (actual papers on scooter will probably be 49cc) .... Wait... Dual carriageway should be ok - need to be above 50cc for motorway, although on a 50cc bike you are going to be overtaken regularly and possibly causing traffic delays..... Try get an 80cc or a 125cc

endacl · 16-11-2019 1:47am

Only restriction is on motorways. And your tolerance for being giggled at. A lot.

tuxy · 16-11-2019 1:48am

Well since you can cycle a push bike on dual carriageways I'm going to say the answer is yes, it's legal for a scooter.

blade1 · 16-11-2019 6:37am

Model: Fiddle

Del2005 · 16-11-2019 6:38am

tuxy wrote: »

Well since you can cycle a push bike on dual carriageways I'm going to say the answer is yes, it's legal for a scooter.

No, a motorway has different regulations to a dual carriageway. Motorways are restricted to vehicles >50cc, that's 49cc, and the vehicle needs to be able to do exceed 50kph, which if the OP is buying as a moped it can't do.

listermint · 16-11-2019 7:34am

Del2005 wrote: »

No, a motorway has different regulations to a dual carriageway. Motorways are restricted to vehicles >50cc, that's 49cc, and the vehicle needs to be able to do exceed 50kph, which if the OP is buying as a moped it can't do.

I suggest you read the post you quoted again....

zubair · 16-11-2019 7:42am

tuxy wrote: »

Well since you can cycle a push bike on dual carriageways I'm going to say the answer is yes, it's legal for a scooter.

Yes it is but typically a dual carriageway will be 100kmph, you'll be run off the road, not very safe. Especially with the lack of consideration given to anyone on 2 wheels now a days.

tuxy · 16-11-2019 3:47pm

You quoted my post that was only about dual carriageways and started talking about motorway laws,
why did you start off saying "no" as if my info is incorrect,it makes no sense.
I don't believe you read my post correctly.

I cycle both N road(also usually 100 km/h) and dual carriageways and I'm still alive.
I do avoid dual carriageways when possible but it won't stop me from getting where I want to go.

listermint · 16-11-2019 9:35pm

zubair wrote: »

Yes it is but typically a dual carriageway will be 100kmph, you'll be run off the road, not very safe. Especially with the lack of consideration given to anyone on 2 wheels now a days.

I don't think that was the question though.
It's entirely legal. Entirely.

zubair · 17-11-2019 2:14pm

listermint wrote: »

I don't think that was the question though.
It's entirely legal. Entirely.

Didn't mean to quote you but it wouldn't be much of a forum if we didn't include additional and sometimes valuable insights. I answered the question, I didn't hijack the thread which is typical in this forum.

tuxy · 17-11-2019 4:17pm

zubair wrote: »

Didn't mean to quote you but it wouldn't be much of a forum if we didn't include additional and sometimes valuable insights. I answered the question, I didn't hijack the thread which is typical in this forum.

You're a member since 2007 and you don't know how to quote correctly.
In your first post in the thread you claimed someone was giving out false information, who was the directed at?

Cork Trucker · 17-11-2019 4:22pm

I drove a 49cc moped from the Jack Lynch Tunnel to the Kinsale Road Roundabout long before the 3 flyovers were in place. Never had an issue with it legally speaking

zubair · 17-11-2019 6:19pm

tuxy wrote: »

You're a member since 2007 and you don't know how to quote correctly.
In your first post in the thread you claimed someone was giving out false information, who was the directed at?

What are ya on about lad?

tuxy · 17-11-2019 6:22pm

zubair wrote: »

What are ya on about lad?

This

tuxy wrote: »

Well since you can cycle a push bike on dual carriageways I'm going to say the answer is yes, it's legal for a scooter.

Del2005 wrote: »

No, a motorway has different regulations to a dual carriageway. Motorways are restricted to vehicles >50cc, that's 49cc, and the vehicle needs to be able to do exceed 50kph, which if the OP is buying as a moped it can't do.

You said my info was incorrect. What do you think I got wrong?
Then you tell listermint you didn't mean to quote them so I can only guess you did mean to quote me.

blade1 · 17-11-2019 6:22pm

tuxy wrote: »

This

You said my info was incorrect. What do you think I got wrong?

Everything tuxy :pac:

tuxy · 17-11-2019 6:28pm

I actually think I finally know what he's on about. He didn't mean to quote me and wanted to explain to the OP that a motorway has different rules from a dual carriageway.
He made a balls of the post, quoted me by mistake and then mistook another poster for me when he tried to explain what he did wrong.

Member since 2007.....

blade1 · 17-11-2019 6:32pm

tuxy wrote: »

I actually think I finally know what he's on about. He didn't mean to quote me and wanted to explain to the OP that a motorway has different rules from a dual carriageway.
He made a balls of the post, quoted me by mistake and then mistook another poster for me when he tried to explain what he did wrong.

Member since 2007.....

I don't know about that now...
Surely it was another poster that you meant no?

zubair · 17-11-2019 6:33pm

blade1 wrote: »

I don't know about that now...
Surely it was another poster that you meant no?

Twas.

BlackWizard · 23-11-2019 9:06am

How come you wouldn't consider a 125cc bike instead?

I use 125cc going to and from work. Dual carriageway and m50.

https://www.donedeal.co.uk/all?words=125%20scooter

Max Headroom · 23-11-2019 9:46am

I love these "one hit wonder" posters....he's long gone and here ye are bickering over nothing......:P

punisher5112 · 23-11-2019 9:48am

Max Headroom wrote: »

I love these "one hit wonder" posters....he's long gone and here ye are bickering over nothing......:P

My dad drives a taxi.

Max Headroom · 23-11-2019 10:01am

punisher5112 wrote: »

My dad drives a taxi.

dont get me started on taxi drivers................:p

whisky_galore · 23-11-2019 10:06am

endacl wrote: »

Only restriction is on motorways. And your tolerance for being giggled at. A lot.

By big men in effeminate SUVs?

punisher5112 · 23-11-2019 11:28am

I rode a Piaggio NRG 50 from Dublin to Kerry and back in same day....

Max Headroom · 23-11-2019 1:36pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

I rode a Piaggio NRG 50 from Dublin to Kerry and back in same day....

Pussy.............bet you wont do it on a Panigale...in comfort..:D

The OP probably hit a rider on the M50 and was was looking for a way out.....

Japcati2020 · 29-04-2020 8:54am

Stupid and dangerous idea to even think of putting a weak little scooter on a dual carriageway or a motorway.
Too slow and an accident in the making for both scooter rider and other road users.
You will be blown off it by passing lorries. Or end up under their wheels

Japcati2020 · 29-04-2020 8:58am

Nice n handy 400cc yoke for the nip back up to "Dubland"

Max Headroom · 30-04-2020 10:26am

Japcati2020 wrote: »

Stupid and dangerous idea to even think of putting a weak little scooter on a dual carriageway or a motorway.
Too slow and an accident in the making for both scooter rider and other road users.
You will be blown off it by passing lorries. Or end up under their wheels

Never been on the N11 then....cyclists (regularly) joggers, pikeys with their dogs.....their dogs with no pikey.....cars belting down the hardshoulder....its a circus...and the clowns are the bronze who only stop bikers...:rolleyes:

Japcati2020 · 30-04-2020 10:31am

Max Headroom wrote: »

Never been on the N11 then....cyclists (regularly) joggers, pikeys with their dogs.....their dogs with no pikey.....cars belting down the hardshoulder....its a circus...and the clowns are the bronze who only stop bikers...:rolleyes:

Yep seen all that.aswell as some stupid twats on little 50cc yokes that were too slow for the traffic with trucks having to suddenly pull out of the slow lane and overtake them due to them being that slow on their scooters.
Accident waiting to happen

H_Lime · 30-04-2020 11:25am

Max Headroom wrote: »

Never been on the N11 then....cyclists (regularly) joggers, pikeys with their dogs.....their dogs with no pikey.....cars belting down the hardshoulder....its a circus...and the clowns are the bronze who only stop bikers...:rolleyes:

Lol that is a gas post:pac: Must be feckin bedlam, yeah I heard there's a few wasps with a mad hard on for bikers out that road!

MojoMaker · 30-04-2020 11:48am

The OP may not have an A or A1 licence and is just enquiring can he/she take a 50cc onto a dual carriageway before investing in a new commuting tool.

punisher5112 · 30-04-2020 1:04pm

MojoMaker wrote: »

The OP may not have an A or A1 licence and is just enquiring can he/she take a 50cc onto a dual carriageway before investing in a new commuting tool.

6 months ago and yes you can.

Motorway no.

MojoMaker · 30-04-2020 5:13pm

Jaysis, no way :rolleyes:

Scooter on Dual-Carriageway

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