Another laptop recommendation thread (Black Friday deals?)

DelBoy Trotter

I'm looking for recommendations for a new laptop. My current laptop is an 8 year old Lenovo. It had an upgrade to a SSD and Windows 10 about 3 years ago, which has kept it going a bit longer, but it badly needs to be changed. The HDMI port doesn't work as the hardware is too old and isn't compatible with Windows 10!

Budget: €600
Must haves: Windows machine, minimum 256GB SSD, 8GB RAM, metal body/frame
Would like: backlit keyboard

I'd love a MS Surface but can't justify the cost. Of all the laptops I've had, I found my netbook the most handy. With that in mind, I'd prefer a smaller laptop, 13" ideally, but happy enough to go to 14".
It'll mainly be used for general browsing, streaming sport and Netflix, Word, Excel, iTunes music collection, etc.
I'm not in a rush and happy to wait for any deals that might pop up on Black Friday. Buying online or in store is fine by me, but I want to buy new, I'm not interested in second hand laptops.

All recommendations appreciated!

tonyfillony

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-ce3501sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i5-512-gb-ssd-silver-10198859-pdt.html
I'm half thinking of getting this. Doesn't have backlit keyboard

DelBoy Trotter

tonyfillony wrote: »

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-ce3501sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i5-512-gb-ssd-silver-10198859-pdt.html
I'm half thinking of getting this. Doesn't have backlit keyboard

I was actually looking at that yesterday as a possible option!

going to be difficult to get a metal body for 600 euro

the matebook d 14 had that but has been out of stock on amazon uk for a fair while.

other than that you might get one with a metal lid but that's about it.

those hp 14 may be metal but it's not 100% clear.

it's described as metal finish - you'd have to go in and check

thenightman

Would also be wise to research which laptops are easily upgradeable, RAM and SSD wise. I bought a HP from Dixons a few years back and it was a complete pain to add in an SSD and upgrade the memory, whole machine basically had to be disassembled to do so. Swore to myself that the bext machine I buy will be easier.

DelBoy Trotter

glasso wrote: »

those hp 14 may be metal but it's not 100% clear.

it's described as metal finish - you'd have to go in and check

I was in Currys over the weekend and had a look at the HP 14 and they are a plastic finish, but it was a nice finish on it to be fair

glasso wrote: »

going to be difficult to get a metal body for 600 euro

Yeah after some investigation, it seems you might be correct on this so my criteria looks like it will need to change from metal body to a nicely finished plastic body

glasso wrote: »

the matebook d 14 had that but has been out of stock on amazon uk for a fair while.

other than that you might get one with a metal lid but that's about it.

I really like the look of the Matebook. I can't see anywhere that sells it though (apart from Amazon or some eBay accounts)

DelBoy Trotter

Now that the Black Friday deals seem to have started, the real search begins! If anybody sees anything that would fit my criteria, let me know please

DelBoy Trotter

So i've spent a bit of time this morning looking at laptops, so far these are what I've come up with:

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-zenbook-14-um431da-14-amd-ryzen-5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-blue-10194537-pdt.html (slightly out of budget but I could stretch to it)

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-s340-14-amd-ryzen-7-laptop-512-gb-ssd-grey-10193468-pdt.html

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-ce3501sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i5-512-gb-ssd-silver-10198859-pdt.html

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-s340-14-amd-ryzen-5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-grey-10193270-pdt.html

Any comments on these four? Which would you go for?

cherryghost

The most expensive one is most asthetically pleasing, I'd personally go for the cheapest of the 4 though imo. Still looks nice, thin bezels, performance for what you will be doing - very little difference across the lot of them.

The IdeaPad S340 with Ryzen 7 is the best in terms of raw perf but I'd only recommend it for light editing and gaming.

Not much else I can find at that price range, with that build quality in 14 inch (unless you go bigger and less refined chassis, you could save about 70-80 euro that way)

if lightness and portability are important go for the zenbook.

it's over 400g lighter than the other ones and is the only one that will feel genuinely light.

if it's not important go for one of the cheaper ones. not a huge amount in Ryzen 7 over 5 imo so not really worth it.

so go for the new intel or the ryzen 5.

new intel i5 > ryzen 5 in terms of cpu power

but ryzen has better integrated graphics.

I think that the Zenbook is metal (aluminium) also whereas all the others are plastic.

that's a very good price for it.

It's a class or two above the others in terms of build quality.

Lemlin

cherryghost wrote: »

The most expensive one is most asthetically pleasing, I'd personally go for the cheapest of the 4 though imo. Still looks nice, thin bezels, performance for what you will be doing - very little difference across the lot of them.

The IdeaPad S340 with Ryzen 7 is the best in terms of raw perf but I'd only recommend it for light editing and gaming.

Not much else I can find at that price range, with that build quality in 14 inch (unless you go bigger and less refined chassis, you could save about 70-80 euro that way)

Is this the same as the cheapest one of the seven?

https://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/3068984/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7COffice%2C+PCs+and+phones%7C14418968/Trail/searchtext%3ESHOP+ALL+BLACK+FRIDAY.htm

429.99 in Argos.

DelBoy Trotter

glasso wrote: »

I think that the Zenbook is metal (aluminium) also whereas all the others are plastic.

that's a very good price for it.

It's a class or two above the others in terms of build quality.

I haven’t fully made up my mind yet, but the Zenbook is winning based on the above. I was originally looking for a metal framed laptop, and a backlight keyboard was also on the would like to have list, both of which the Zenbook looks to have

mondeo

All the crap is discounted on black friday, nothing decent drops much. Black Friday makes no difference to me in Ireland. Maybe Amazon might have something.

DelBoy Trotter

mondeo wrote: »

All the crap is discounted on black friday, nothing decent drops much. Black Friday makes no difference to me in Ireland. Maybe Amazon might have something.

Amazon has been more expensive than Currys during my search in the last 24 hours

raxy

DelBoy Trotter wrote: »

Amazon has been more expensive than Currys during my search in the last 24 hours

Laptops direct.ie is crap as well. Argos seems to be the best prices I can see.

amazon rarely the best prices for laptops. on a particular model occasionally.

argos can be ok on the odd model this time of year.

raxy

I went to Currys yesterday for a quick look.
I know they're demo models but the lenovo s145 seemed cheap. Keyboard flexed quite a lot & the silver cover was all scuffed & scratched making it look awful. Maybe the black lenovo models wouldn't suffer the same but the fake metal just makes it look cheap.
The acer aspire 5 seemed the best in terms of build. A lot of the other models around the same price didn't feel as sturdy as the acer.

raxy

https://www.did.ie/lenovo-amd-a9-9425-15-6-8gb-256gb-laptop-black-81mt00015uk-81mt00015uk-prd

How does the A9 processor compare to the ryzen 5?

the culture of deference

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-ce3501sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i5-512-gb-ssd-silver-10198859-pdt.html


this one all day


stay away from DID or powercity



They are still selling 4 year old chips in laptops



newest i5 chip


8gb ram


ignore the opti BS

raxy

the culture of deference wrote: »

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-ce3501sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i5-512-gb-ssd-silver-10198859-pdt.html


this one all day


stay away from DID or powercity



They are still selling 4 year old chips in laptops



newest i5 chip


8gb ram


ignore the opti BS

That's out of my budget atm. I may just put off getting something altogether but I'd imagine the A9 would be more than good enough for me. I had a pc with an A10 processor which worked well.

the culture of deference

raxy wrote: »

That's out of my budget atm. I may just put off getting something altogether but I'd imagine the A9 would be more than good enough for me. I had a pc with an A10 processor which worked well.

Get this one then


https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-s145-15iwl-15-6-intel-core-i3-laptop-128-gb-ssd-grey-10197879-pdt.html

raxy

the culture of deference wrote: »

Get this one then


https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-s145-15iwl-15-6-intel-core-i3-laptop-128-gb-ssd-grey-10197879-pdt.html

Think I might stretch the budget for this

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hp-250-core-i7-8565u-8gb-256gb-ssd15.6-inch-full-hd-windows-10-home-laptop-6mp37es/version.asp

Trick is to get my brother to buy it so my wife doesn't realise how much I'm spending.

a9 not a great chip, particularly wrt power usage off battery as it's a higher Wattage. 3 year old cpu.

current i3, ryzen 3, i5, ryzen 5 better.

raxy

raxy wrote: »

Think I might stretch the budget for this

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hp-250-core-i7-8565u-8gb-256gb-ssd15.6-inch-full-hd-windows-10-home-laptop-6mp37es/version.asp

Trick is to get my brother to buy it so my wife doesn't realise how much I'm spending.

that's a really ugly heavy brute of an old plastic design of a machine.

no need for an i7 for your uses.

the one recommended before with a modern i3

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Chromebook-CB714-1WT-36MS-Notebook-i3-8130U/dp/B07S97NN6C

will do more than fine and it has a much nicer modern build.

maybe add 4gb more ram down the line for about 35 €

although this 4-core ryzen 5 is the best value of the lot

https://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/3068984/Trail/searchtext%3ERYZEN.htm

am i going nuts (its late) or does it say both SSD and 5400rpm hard drive on that last deal?

raxy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

am i going nuts (its late) or does it say both SSD and 5400rpm hard drive on that last deal?

Didn't spot that. Argos wouldn't be the best source for laptop specs I guess. Seen some dodgy info on other sites too. Think did have an i3 laptop but the description says it's the latest i7 processor.

Think I might end up with the Argos laptop but want to try see it somewhere first. The lenovo laptops in Currys felt a bit cheap. I might pay a bit more for this
https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-5-a515-43-15-6-amd-ryzen-5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-silver-10198290-pdt.html?istCompanyId=fbc6ef6d-ab18-45e3-927a-0cb677794424&istFeedId=0959f117-9faa-4499-80bd-c0265bb2950e&istItemId=iwqlipqaq&istBid=t&&gclid=CjwKCAiA8ejuBRAaEiwAn-iJ3jHQGlpmocc34j7ihIo9OrJhyv-_A26V7vXO8NgJ72Nc4fH7hhgZbhoCWcUQAvD_BwE
Has a much more solid build than the lenovo.

GeneralC

Hi

I'm looking for a laptop to suit a student with a budget of €600. Metal body and SSD is my only preference. I'll be using Word/Web/PowerPoint but nothing too taxing that will require major CPU power.

Any suggestions?

GeneralC

GeneralC wrote: »

Hi

I'm looking for a laptop to suit a student with a budget of €600. Metal body and SSD is my only preference. I'll be using Word/Web/PowerPoint but nothing too taxing that will require major CPU power.

Any suggestions?

this is a very nicely built all-metal laptop with ssd and long battery life. looks like a premium laptop of twice the price.

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-swift-1-sf114-32-14-intel-pentium-laptop-256-gb-ssd-silver-10193945-pdt.html

cpu perfectly fine for your uses.

8gb ram,

256 ssd.

captain_boycott

raxy wrote: »

Didn't spot that. Argos wouldn't be the best source for laptop specs I guess. Seen some dodgy info on other sites too. Think did have an i3 laptop but the description says it's the latest i7 processor.

Think I might end up with the Argos laptop but want to try see it somewhere first. The lenovo laptops in Currys felt a bit cheap. I might pay a bit more for this
https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-5-a515-43-15-6-amd-ryzen-5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-silver-10198290-pdt.html?istCompanyId=fbc6ef6d-ab18-45e3-927a-0cb677794424&istFeedId=0959f117-9faa-4499-80bd-c0265bb2950e&istItemId=iwqlipqaq&istBid=t&&gclid=CjwKCAiA8ejuBRAaEiwAn-iJ3jHQGlpmocc34j7ihIo9OrJhyv-_A26V7vXO8NgJ72Nc4fH7hhgZbhoCWcUQAvD_BwE
Has a much more solid build than the lenovo.

another thing to note about the argos listing, is that it says Windows 10S - which is not the full version of windows. I wonder is it possible to get free upgrade to the full windows or is that extra?

captain_boycott

captain_boycott wrote: »

another thing to note about the argos listing, is that it says Windows 10S - which is not the full version of windows. I wonder is it possible to get free upgrade to the full windows or is that extra?

you can switch from 10s to normal windows 10 in a couple of minutes free

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4456067/windows-10-switch-out-of-s-mode

raxy

captain_boycott wrote: »

another thing to note about the argos listing, is that it says Windows 10S - which is not the full version of windows. I wonder is it possible to get free upgrade to the full windows or is that extra?

I would think that's a mistake. Will definitely double check just in case.

DelBoy Trotter

DelBoy Trotter wrote: »

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-zenbook-14-um431da-14-amd-ryzen-5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-blue-10194537-pdt.html

I ended up ordering the above from Currys this morning. It allowed me to order, but I've got my fingers crossed that it's actually in stock and will be delivered

raxy

raxy wrote: »

I would think that's a mistake. Will definitely double check just in case.

https://psref.lenovo.com/Detail/Lenovo%20Laptops/ideapad_S34015API?M=81NC003QUK

Doesn't look like a mistake after all. Found this from the ran code on the Argos add & specifies windows s.
Anybody know about being able to upgrade it?

raxy

raxy wrote: »

https://psref.lenovo.com/Detail/Lenovo%20Laptops/ideapad_S34015API?M=81NC003QUK

Doesn't look like a mistake after all. Found this from the ran code on the Argos add & specifies windows s.
Anybody know about being able to upgrade it?

did you miss post 32?

raxy

glasso wrote: »

did you miss post 32?

Yes I did. Thanks.

Neames

Any thoughts on this laptop? Seems like a bargain?

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-ce3520sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i7-512-gb-ssd-silver-10198863-pdt.html

Looking for something solid (not plasticy) that will work ok for photo editing and light programming.

Any alternatives that would work out cheaper?

link not working.

Neames

glasso wrote: »

link not working.

Thanks Glasso.

I put in the new link....

Here it is

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-ce3520sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i7-512-gb-ssd-silver-10198863-pdt.html

Neames

Neames wrote: »

Any thoughts on this laptop? Seems like a bargain?

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-ce3520sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i7-512-gb-ssd-silver-10198863-pdt.html

Looking for something solid (not plasticy) that will work ok for photo editing and light programming.

Any alternatives that would work out cheaper?

not a bad option if you really think that you need the mx250.

but that's not really needed for photo editing imo

this laptop will meet your needs and has a higher build quality, is a fair bit lighter and is 659

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-zenbook-14-um431da-14-amd-ryzen-5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-blue-10194537-pdt.html

GeneralC

glasso wrote: »

this is a very nicely built all-metal laptop with ssd and long battery life. looks like a premium laptop of twice the price.

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-swift-1-sf114-32-14-intel-pentium-laptop-256-gb-ssd-silver-10193945-pdt.html

cpu perfectly fine for your uses.

8gb ram,

256 ssd.

Is this metal or plastic? Any more suggestions for around that price?

GeneralC

GeneralC wrote: »

Is this metal or plastic? Any more suggestions for around that price?

fully metal. no other suggestions for something light, full metal premium build like that no. you'd have to go up to well over 800.

the cpu is more than capable for your uses and 8gb ram likewise plenty.

GeneralC

glasso wrote: »

fully metal. no other suggestions for something light, full metal premium build like that no. you'd have to go up to well over 800.

the cpu is more than capable for your uses and 8gb ram likewise plenty.

Does this have the i5 processor?

GeneralC

GeneralC wrote: »

Does this have the i5 processor?

no

n5000. just below i3. fine for most uses but not i5.

you can't have everything for that money I'm afraid.

GeneralC

glasso wrote: »

no

n5000. just below i3. fine for most uses but not i5.

you can't have everything for that money I'm afraid.

Would you have any other suggestions? Metal or plastic body

the zenbook for 659

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-zenbook-14-um431da-14-amd-ryzen-5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-blue-10194537-pdt.html

not sure if fully metal but a very nice and quality build

ryzen 5 is a good cpu with strong integrated graphics

raxy

Never heard on Intel pot and before so thought I'd ask it here? How would something like this compare to what has been posted before.

https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/asus-vivobook-core-i3-8130u-4gb-16gb-intel-optane-15.6-inch-windows-10-ho-s530ua-ej481t/version.asp

raxy

raxy wrote: »

Never heard on Intel pot and before so thought I'd ask it here? How would something like this compare to what has been posted before.

https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/asus-vivobook-core-i3-8130u-4gb-16gb-intel-optane-15.6-inch-windows-10-ho-s530ua-ej481t/version.asp

zenbook range is of a good bit higher quality. well worth the extra.

also ryzen 5 and intel i5 are 4-core cpus,

i3's are 2-core.

finally, laptopsdirect are notoriously sh1t to deal with if there is any problem.

raxy

glasso wrote: »

zenbook range is of a good bit higher quality. well worth the extra.

also ryzen 5 and intel i5 are 4-core cpus,

i3's are 2-core.

finally, laptopsdirect are notoriously sh1t to deal with if there is any problem.

Just realised there was an auto correct in my post. I was wondering about the Intel optane and what difference in terms of ram because of it.

that has only 4gb ram. 4gb is not enough for win 10 really - need 8gb

optane is not ram . it's a tech that's most useful for speeding up spinning Hard-drives (HDD)

it has little / no effect when you have an SSD.

this one has a slower spinning HDD. optane improves it but it will still be a lot slower than an SSD