Formula 1 2019 - Round 19 - U.S.A

Faugheen

If LeClerc is pumping in 1:36s I’d absolutely come in if I was Hamilton

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Enough time for Bottas to catch Hamilton and for an incident which takes just Lewis out :pac:


"No talking now" - Bottas

skipper_G

Faugheen wrote: »

If LeClerc is pumping in 1:36s I’d absolutely come in if I was Hamilton

Leclerc isn't in the equation though, if Hamilton pits he loses the lead. Staying out is the only chance to win. Only a few laps left anyway

PsychoPete

"Lewis, Its James"

Faugheen

Another excellent drive from Albon.

I didn’t realise he had actually outscored Max before today.

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Coming up to traffic just as Bottas will get DRS, so Lewis will have it too for a bit.

Faugheen

skipper_G wrote: »

Leclerc isn't in the equation though, if Hamilton pits he loses the lead. Staying out is the only chance to win. Only a few laps left anyway

Granted, but it’s close to 2.5-3s quicker. At the time I posted that it would have absolutely been possible to get it done.

skipper_G

Faugheen wrote: »

Another excellent drive from Albon.

I didn’t realise he had actually outscored Max before today.

Yeah another solid drive, the racing incident with Sainz was unfortunate but nothing he could do. Good recovery drive though

skipper_G

Another nice pass from Checo, he's had a great race as well. Pitlane start and running in the points

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Faugheen wrote: »

Another excellent drive from Albon.

I didn’t realise he had actually outscored Max before today.

In fairness it hasn't been too hard when you consider Max's performances include a puncture, a dnf and a back of the grid start from memory.

BDI

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

In fairness it hasn't been too hard when you consider Max's performances include a puncture, a dnf and a back of the grid start from memory.

Amazing nothing like that happened albon

Faugheen

Six times.

Yet some of the bitters here won’t call him one of the greats.

tipp_tipp_tipp

Enjoyed that, bit of a slow burner but an exciting last couple of laps. Hamilton nearly pulled it off.

Cool_CM

skipper_G wrote: »

Another nice pass from Checo, he's had a great race as well. Pitlane start and running in the points

Under investigation at the moment

Jordan 199

Well done Lewis on winning your sixth title.

BDI

Cool_CM wrote: »

Under investigation at the moment

Stream went for last two laps. Maybe his did too. Think he is in the clear according to commentary

splinter65

Faugheen wrote: »

Six times.

Yet some of the bitters here won’t call him one of the greats.

Why don’t people here like him?

skipper_G

BDI wrote: »

Amazing nothing like that happened albon

Actually to his credit he has had a few issues to contend with, he finished 5th in Belgium having started at the back for an engine change and he fnished 5th in Russia having started from the pit lane.

Jordan 199

Faugheen wrote: »

Six times.

Yet some of the bitters here won’t call him one of the greats.

Ignore the lemons

BDI

splinter65 wrote: »

Why don’t people here like him?

Am I allowed say everything I feel about him without mod action?

christy c

splinter65 wrote: »

Why don’t people here like him?

Don't go there!

I personally don't like him but hats off, deserved.

Faugheen

splinter65 wrote: »

Why don’t people here like him?

Not liking him isn’t the issue.

It’s those who use their hatred to cloud any rational judgement of him.

There’s plenty here who don’t like him but can acknowledge that his achievements speak for themselves.

It’s just the losers who can’t get over it.

skipper_G

Mercedes have been operationally better than the rest, best car early on but was much closer in the second half of the season and they continued to maximise their weekends. Hamilton was relentlessly consistent as ever, 6 world titles is an incredible achievement. Congrats to him.

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christy c wrote: »

Don't go there!

I personally don't like him but hats off, deserved.

Yep, exactly how I feel. Not a fan but you don't win 6 titles without being a phenomenal driver. Well deserved.

Cork Trucker

I don’t like him as many don’t, to me he’ll never be as good as Schumacher no matter what the record books say, but still, well done to him.

d8491prj5boyvg

I think he'll get one more as Merc dominate next year and that will be it. Maybe Bottas might beat him but I'd doubt it. When the new rules come in Red Bull or Renault will have the jump on Mercedes and he'll be yesterday's news.

Gamb!t

Fair play to him,6 titles is a brilliant achievement.Think its inevitable he will pass Schumachers record.

ctrl-alt-delete

Are the ages very similar between Schumacher and Hamilton for the 6th title?

Lewis must have a desire to at least equal the 7, do people think it will be possible in the current and oncoming climate?

Jordan 199

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

Lewis must have a desire to at least equal the 7, do people think it will be possible in the current and oncoming climate?

Personally, I think Lewis will win eight titles.

skipper_G

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

Are the ages very similar between Schumacher and Hamilton for the 6th title?

Lewis must have a desire to at least equal the 7, do people think it will be possible in the current and oncoming climate?

Same age as Schumacher was when he won number 6. Stable regulations for next season, I expect Mercedes to be at the front still and he has the measure of Bottas so he's the favourite for next year imo.

Jeff2

Faugheen wrote: »

Granted, but it’s close to 2.5-3s quicker. At the time I posted that it would have absolutely been possible to get it done.

Didn't get to see it but followed online and he Albon had some race.
He had 3 pit stops and 26 seconds behind Charles so it was close enough it you take that into account.

Joeface

I like that there was a race ,I mean he could have strolled round the track to day but went for a win, Good drive by Bottas to catch back up and get the pass done .

Unlucky for Vettel today but the Car was no better in pace for Charles , Ferrari just disappeared today and not for the first time this year

Redbull were a bit flat as well Max never really challenged today , Albon had an entertaining drive back to 5th plenty of pit stops and over takes actually shows how far behind the others are .

Renault with Riccardo do appear to be getting the better of McLaren in the races just not qualified as well. I don't think they can catch them in the constructors but should keep some of it interesting .

Hardluck for Gasly today tires really went off at the end , still a point for Toro with Kvyatt but Gasly had been better throughout the weekend .

Haas , just poor done until next year

Racing point seem to have pace sometimes but a poor enough season for them .

Congratulations to Lewis , 6 world titles some achievement really . He should dedicated 20% of it to Ferrari strategy team the rest was the Car and Mercedes . I wonder will he be able to get number 7 before the rule changes .

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Jesus, who let Will.i.am on

skipper_G

Joeface wrote: »

I like that there was a race ,I mean he could have strolled round the track to day but went for a win, Good drive by Bottas to catch back up and get the pass done .

Unlucky for Vettel today but the Car was no better in pace for Charles , Ferrari just disappeared today and not for the first time this year

Redbull were a bit flat as well Max never really challenged today , Albon had an entertaining drive back to 5th plenty of pit stops and over takes actually shows how far behind the others are .

Renault with Riccardo do appear to be getting the better of McLaren in the races just not qualified as well. I don't think they can catch them in the constructors but should keep some of it interesting .

Hardluck for Gasly today tires really went off at the end , still a point for Toro with Kvyatt but Gasly had been better throughout the weekend .

Haas , just poor done until next year

Racing point seem to have pace sometimes but a poor enough season for them .

Congratulations to Lewis , 6 world titles some achievement really . He should dedicated 20% of it to Ferrari strategy team the rest was the Car and Mercedes . I wonder will he be able to get number 7 before the rule changes .

Kvyat got a 5 second time penalty for causing a collision with Perez when he passed him so Checo got the last point.

Joeface

Lol I turned off straight after the flag ..

uchimata83

That AWS tyre degredation is some nonsense. Shows Lewis medium tyres at 60% after 24 laps and his his hard tyres at 40% after around the same amount. I'd say Amazon have some intern listening to team radio and having a guess at it.

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uchimata83 wrote: »

That AWS tyre degredation is some nonsense. Shows Lewis medium tyres at 60% after 24 laps and his his hard tyres at 40% after around the same amount. I'd say Amazon have some intern listening to team radio and having a guess at it.

I'm sure in one of the races they had someone basically on 0%, as if it were a computer game and they couldn't fathom how the car was still running.

uchimata83

splinter65 wrote: »

Why don’t people here like him?

It's not just here. He's thoroughly dislikable.

tipp_tipp_tipp

uchimata83 wrote: »

That AWS tyre degredation is some nonsense. Shows Lewis medium tyres at 60% after 24 laps and his his hard tyres at 40% after around the same amount. I'd say Amazon have some intern listening to team radio and having a guess at it.

Didn't Pirelli completely distance themselves from it?

jr86

Have become immune to Lewis winning now, I think it'll take something extraordinary to stop him winning 8 titles

Can see how he rubs people up the wrong way but as well as being a superstar and huge marketing tool off the track, his will to win and drive on it are second to none. No-one can touch him at present.

splinter65

uchimata83 wrote: »

It's not just here. He's thoroughly dislikable.

I find all the F1 drivers cocky though. I suppose it’s hard to keep your feet on the ground when you’re young and good looking and at the top of your sport,

H3llR4iser

uchimata83 wrote: »

That AWS tyre degredation is some nonsense. Shows Lewis medium tyres at 60% after 24 laps and his his hard tyres at 40% after around the same amount. I'd say Amazon have some intern listening to team radio and having a guess at it.

More likely, it's a purely arithmetical calculation based on how many laps they say the tires are good for - you know Pirelli has to give an indicative "laps limit" per compound.

So, that limit is say 20 laps, they're on for 10 laps, the graphics will show 50%.
Somebody managing the tires goes 25 laps on an compound that was supposed to last 20, the graphics say 0%...

AMKC

Well done to Lewis some achievement getting 6 WDC titles and he drove a great race.

Well done to Bottas for winning the race. He drove a great race.

The track was terrible do its got to be the bumpiest track on the calendar. I wonder will it still be like that or worse next year.

Overall do I thought it was a good race lots of action.

By the way it was Alex Albon hitting Vettels car at the beginning that damaged his suspension and not the kerb. Can't believe the commentators could not see that. Ferrari just not on form overall today do.

skipper_G

AMKC wrote: »

Well done to Lewis some achievement getting 6 WDC titles and he drove a great race.

Well done to Bottas for winning the race. He drove a great race.

The track was terrible do its got to be the bumpiest track on the calendar. I wonder will it still be like that or worse next year.

Overall do I thought it was a good race lots of action.

By the way it was Alex Albon hitting Vettels car at the beginning that damaged his suspension and not the kerb. Can't believe the commentators could not see that. Ferrari just not on form overall today do.

Leclerc was the Ferrari on the other side of Albon in the first lap incident, not Vettel.

And you're right about the track surface, thankfully they announced they will close over winter to resurface parts of it so should be better next season.

TCP/IP

How did the track get the go-ahead to host that race it was a disgrace.
It's not the best track anyway but to have a surface like that for the USA GP was bizarre.

This is it

TCP/IP wrote: »

How did the track get the go-ahead to host that race it was a disgrace.
It's not the best track anyway but to have a surface like that for the USA GP was bizarre.

I would've thought incredibly dangerous

d8491prj5boyvg

skipper_G wrote: »

Same age as Schumacher was when he won number 6. Stable regulations for next season, I expect Mercedes to be at the front still and he has the measure of Bottas so he's the favourite for next year imo.

I'd say he'd go longer than Schumacher though. Schumacher had a break and was racing into his 40s. Nowadays with modern diets and training, and Lewis looking like he is at the peak of human conditioning, I'd easily see him matching that. So if he had the machinery he could go much further than Schumacher. It's a pity the record books will show him as being better if he does top it, when context is important. Schumacher brought a whole new era of professionalism, dragged a team up from the doldroms and then dominated. I'd rank that ahead of Hamilton backign the right horse at the right time. It also makes Fangio's achievements arguably even greater than both these men, but that's another conversation!

Cork Trucker

Dexter Ancient Gemstone wrote: »

I'd say he'd go longer than Schumacher though. Schumacher had a break and was racing into his 40s. Nowadays with modern diets and training, and Lewis looking like he is at the peak of human conditioning, I'd easily see him matching that. So if he had the machinery he could go much further than Schumacher. It's a pity the record books will show him as being better if he does top it, when context is important. Schumacher brought a whole new era of professionalism, dragged a team up from the doldroms and then dominated. I'd rank that ahead of Hamilton backign the right horse at the right time. It also makes Fangio's achievements arguably even greater than both these men, but that's another conversation!

Fangio won 5 titles with 4 teams, hasn’t been matched since.

Schumacher 5 drivers titles in a row, not matched (yet)

As you said, Hamilton backed the right horse at the right time and Ron Dennis had to eat his words. One must wonder what would have happened if Mercedes did opt to sign Nick Heidfeld to replace Schumacher.

One record that Hamilton will never take from MS is standing on the podium at every single race in a season (17 in 2002). The sooner the dominance ends the better, the British bias is now at a sickeningly bad stage, worse than before.

uchimata83

Cork Trucker wrote: »

One record that Hamilton will never take from MS is standing on the podium at every single race in a season (17 in 2002).

The only records that mean anything are titles, wins and poles - in that order. Hamilton has another 4 or 5 years in him and as long as he stays focused and stays out of the recording studio he'll win at least 1 more.

weisses

TCP/IP wrote: »

How did the track get the go-ahead to host that race it was a disgrace.
It's not the best track anyway but to have a surface like that for the USA GP was bizarre.

Was listening to some commentary ..And they said the top of the hill at the back of the straight sank 1.5 meter since they started racing there