Sinn Fein TD's car set on fire

pinkyeye

https://www.thejournal.ie/martin-kenny-car-set-on-fire-4869937-Oct2019/

I'm surprised there isn't a thread here already about this.

What the hell?

The far right do themselves no favours.

This guy is not going to back down.

Annasopra

Being discussed in the Ballinamore thread. Attempts to suggest like Rooskey that the far right are not at all responsible.

davycc

pinkyeye wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/martin-kenny-car-set-on-fire-4869937-Oct2019/

I'm surprised there isn't a thread here already about this.

What the hell?

The far right do themselves no favours.

This guy is not going to back down.

I mentioned it in the ballinamore refuge megathread above that moment I heard it. A cowardly attack on democracy rightly condemned by all parties
Fingers crossed the culprits left some DNA about .

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/sinn-fein-td-has-car-burned-out-at-his-home-in-apparent-arson-attack-960227.html

dan1895

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Being discussed in the Ballinamore thread. Attempts to suggest like Rooskey that the far right are not at all responsible.

Some on Twitter suggesting the left are responsible or that he got his mates to torch the car himself. Oddly all these accounts are lacking a picture of a living person in the profile and the username includes a large amount of random numbers.

Red_Wake

There's no details known about the culprits yet it is there?

1641

It seems even with age they get no cop on:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/28/two-injured-in-arson-and-gun-attack-at-french-mosque

pinkyeye

Red_Wake wrote: »

There's no details known about the culprits yet it is there?

This man stood up to far right arseholes and then has his car burnt out in his driveway and you wonder who the culprits are?

Seriously? Given the most stupid of all these arseholes has advocated for keeping the "fires burning", you really think we need to wonder???

Beechwoodspark

Either QIH or internal Sinn Fein/ra turmoil, ppl are saying. Sad either way.

1641

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Either QIH or internal Sinn Fein/ra turmoil, ppl are saying. Sad either way.

Ethno - nationalist attack on democracy. And it is not just sad. It is disgusting.

tdf7187

1641 wrote: »

Ethno - nationalist attack on democracy. And it is not just sad. It is disgusting.

If you have evidence of that, I presume you have furnished it to the authorities.

tdf7187

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Either QIH or internal Sinn Fein/ra turmoil, ppl are saying. Sad either way.

Your jump to conclusions mat is saying, more like. Just as the liberals jump to conclusions mats are saying 'tis the far right. Actually tbh the liberals are even worse as they seem to be implying that people shouldn't be allowed to speculate unless everyone agrees that it's the mysterious far right. Not very liberal.

Personally I prefer facts and evidence.

pinkyeye

tdf7187 wrote: »

Your jump to conclusions mat is saying, more like. Just as the liberals jump to conclusions mats are saying 'tis the far right. Actually tbh the liberals are even worse as they seem to be implying that people shouldn't be allowed to speculate unless everyone agrees that it's the mysterious far right. Not very liberal.

Personally I prefer facts and evidence.

I was going to ask what mats are but then I noticed you're a new poster and can't be bothered. :rolleyes:

1641

tdf7187 wrote: »

Your jump to conclusions mat is saying, more like. Just as the liberals jump to conclusions mats are saying 'tis the far right. Actually tbh the liberals are even worse as they seem to be implying that people shouldn't be allowed to speculate unless everyone agrees that it's the mysterious far right. Not very liberal.

Personally I prefer facts and evidence.

A couple of days after speaking out against far right hate provocateurs he gets a death threat. A couple of days after that his car is burnt out. On reflection, you are right. This is all purely coincidental. It is just as likely to have been the fairies. They do be about around halloween.
Oh - any similarity to Rooskey is purely coincidental as well. Just in case there was any misunderstanding.

sk8erboii

1641 wrote: »

A couple of days after speaking out against far right hate provocateurs he gets a death threat. A couple of days after that his car is burnt out. On reflection, you are right. This is all purely coincidental. It is just as likely to have been the fairies. They do be about around halloween.
Oh - any similarity to Rooskey is purely coincidental as well. Just in case there was any misunderstanding.

Its obviously the rational centrists that have had enough of extremist actions that carbombed him.

jay0109

1641 wrote: »

A couple of days after speaking out against far right hate provocateurs he gets a death threat. A couple of days after that his car is burnt out. On reflection, you are right. This is all purely coincidental. It is just as likely to have been the fairies. They do be about around halloween.
Oh - any similarity to Rooskey is purely coincidental as well. Just in case there was any misunderstanding.

It is probably the work of some loon(s) as a result of what Kenny said in defence of asylum seekers.
But he also recently spoke out about the the kidnapping and assault in Cavan of Quinn's Kevin Lunney. And we know that there has been a lot of arson attacks around that whole saga over the last few years.

Hoboo

sk8erboii wrote: »

Its obviously the rational centrists that have had enough of extremist actions that carbombed him.

And not the Judean People's Front?

Gatling

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

the far right

This far right must be invisible unless you a clear agenda to label everyone with the latest buzz words or triggered .




Some how I doubt very much we have any white supremacists living in Ireland

sk8erboii

Gatling wrote: »

This far right must be invisible unless you a clear agenda to label everyone with the latest buzz words or triggered .




Some how I doubt very much we have any white supremacists living in Ireland

Is this collective amnesia or do you have a vested interest in disregarding the Nazi salutes outside google HQ that happened months ago?

Right wing populism and white supremacist movements are on the rise, there is empirical evidence of this. You cant just say they dont exist anymore.

sk8erboii

Hoboo wrote: »

And not the Judean People's Front?

Is this a monty python reference?

Gatling

sk8erboii wrote: »

Is this collective amnesia or do you have a vested interest in disregarding the Nazi salutes outside google HQ that happened months ago?

The staged ones ,


And in a years time people will be getting arrested for posting on twitter or board's that's triggered someone to be offended .

Rapidly followed by mass censorship and only left and liberals entitled to voice opinions.



No thanks

sk8erboii

Gatling wrote: »

The staged ones ,


And in a years time people will be getting arrested for posting on twitter or board's that's triggered someone to be offended .

Rapidly followed by mass censorship and only left and liberals entitled to voice opinions.



No thanks

Lol no. People have found out the identities of the Nazi saluters. As usual they’re far right nutters with paranoid delusions.

Such delusions include: “And in a years time people will be getting arrested for posting on twitter or board's that's triggered someone to be offended .”

And the often cited left/liberal conspiracy to suppress rational opinions (Such as racism).

Yes please. These people should be cast out and exposed.

Gatling

sk8erboii wrote: »

Such delusions include: “And in a years time people will be getting arrested for posting on twitter or board's that's triggered someone to be offended .”

This is exactly what is going to happen , aren't we getting legislation on it ,it's not delusional .

Just look at the situation where people are getting police visits because someone finds something offensive on Twitter which usually turns out one person trying to settle a score .


When people start feeling left out or pushed out of a society that usually pushes them into the arms of extremists ,
Maybe actually listen to peoples genuine concerns rather than listening to a minority demanding there way and their opinion over all else

sk8erboii

Gatling wrote: »

This is exactly what is going to happen , aren't we getting legislation on it ,it's not delusional .

Just look at the situation where people are getting police visits because someone finds something offensive which usually turns out one person trying to settle a score .


When people start feeling left out or pushed out of a society that usually pushes them into the arms of extremists ,
Maybe actually listen to peoples genuine concerns rather than listening to a minority demanding there way and their opinion over all else

Mate if you’re referring Gemma O Doherty’s fanclub, the ones that sent death threats to a family because the husband was black, then I say good riddance.

What ‘genuine concern’ do people have when they irrationally hate other people? It seems to me that some people are Just lowlives and scum and the country would be better without them polluting the minds of new generation.

They’re not oppressed citizens. They’re scumbags who deserve a cold hard boot to the face

Mules

I agree that the far right are unpleasant but making speech illegal is dangerous. It's a slippery slope towards full blown censorship of all views that a government finds inconvenient.

Gatling

sk8erboii wrote: »

What ‘genuine concern’ do people have when they irrationally hate other people? It seems to me that some people are Just lowlives and scum and the country would be better without them polluting the minds of new generation.

They’re not oppressed citizens. They’re scumbags who deserve a cold hard boot to the face

Some are scum bags out for a fight .

But anyone who doesn't agree with mass migration is a racist , anyone who doesn't agree men are men and women are women your transpohbic, anyone who eats meat is veganphobic ,and on and on and on .

Actually on a serious note doesn't the constitution guarantee right to association including political association so everyone essentially has a right to be represented ,

Do we need to change the constitution only some have a right to association ?

Varik

So would be betting its related to SF "glorious" past now considering the burnt out station.

Montage of Feck

SF's tradition voter base is more than likely responsible, rather than some bogeyman far right.

Beechwoodspark

Friend lives near the town in question. Said the locals are beyond disgusted with this sf tds activities in the last while.

Apparently locally he’s well known for being a drama and attention hoor. Ppl are exasperated at this stage and just want him to step down.

Boggles

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Friend lives near the town in question. Said the locals are beyond disgusted with this sf tds activities in the last while.

Apparently locally he’s well known for being a drama and attention hoor. Ppl are exasperated at this stage and just want him to step down.

So you think he sent his own threat and burned out his own car?

maccored

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Friend lives near the town in question. Said the locals are beyond disgusted with this sf tds activities in the last while.

Apparently locally he’s well known for being a drama and attention hoor. Ppl are exasperated at this stage and just want him to step down.

most people rely on voting to do that

Gatling

Boggles wrote: »

So you think he sent his own threat and burned out his own car?

More likely some low level sinner goon was responsible rather than some far right wannabe .

Dyr

Is Leitrim a hotbed of far right lunacy these days?

u140acro3xs7dm

Bambi wrote: »

Is Leitrim a hotbed of far right lunacy these days?

There are hardly any people living there, those that I've met from there, are in general backward thinking folk - very easily led. It's full of these horrendous looking towns/villages with absolutely nothing going on. If ever somewhere need a little more diversity, it's Leitrim.

maccored

Gatling wrote: »

More likely some low level sinner goon was responsible rather than some far right wannabe .

how so? baseless claim or have you anything to base it on?

Beechwoodspark

maccored wrote: »

how so? baseless claim or have you anything to base it on?

Anyone who keeps up with the news knows shinner ra internal turmoil is near constant.

Boggles

Gatling wrote: »

More likely some low level sinner goon was responsible rather than some far right wannabe .

What's a "low level sinner"?

Death threats and burning out a car would be a high level sin, no?

Dyr

Stephen Rancid Poker wrote: »

There are hardly any people living there, those that I've met from there, are in general backward thinking folk - very easily led. It's full of these horrendous looking towns/villages with absolutely nothing going on. If ever somewhere need a little more diversity, it's Leitrim.

I dunno, if its already got a plentiful supply of backward thinking folk then maybe importing more isn't the best idea

But as Sinn Fein types used to sing "Leitrim is a very funny place sir/its a strange and troubled land"

Gatling

maccored wrote: »

how so? baseless claim or have you anything to base it on?

Wouldn't be the first time ,

Seem to remember shimmer goons going after peoples cars and issuing threats to deter people running for seats in local campaigns

ohnonotgmail

Gatling wrote: »

Wouldn't be the first time ,

Seem to remember shimmer goons going after peoples cars and issuing threats to deter people running for seats in local campaigns

so in this particular instance you have nothing to base it on?

Slowyourrole

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Either QIH or internal Sinn Fein/ra turmoil, ppl are saying. Sad either way.

What people? You've made this claim about 20 times over the two threads now.

maccored

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Anyone who keeps up with the news knows shinner ra internal turmoil is near constant.

ah, so gossip is good then in your book. If you havent the facts, get with the 'sure everybody knows .....(inset bolloxology here) '

Dyr

TBH I wouldnt put it past Sinn Fein to engage in Fifth Column shenanigans in order to put the anti immigration shower in Longford beyond the pale in terms of sympathy and support. It's an issue that's really biting Sinn Fein on the arse with their supporters.

Or maybe some headers just torched his car.

Beechwoodspark

maccored wrote: »

ah, so gossip is good then in your book. If you havent the facts, get with the 'sure everybody knows .....(inset bolloxology here) '

It’s not gossip it’s “hard facts” and it has been known for years

Gatling

Slowyourrole wrote: »

What people? You've made this claim about 20 times over the two threads now.

Is that you Ali

James Brown

Likely the hypocrites who can trace their family's voting habit back to Brian Boru for voting either FG or FF. Old GAA stock still with a chip about the civil war. The most ignorant and intolerant people I've ever known would go to mass of a Sunday.

Loafing Oaf

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Either QIH or internal Sinn Fein/ra turmoil, ppl are saying. Sad either way.

The voices in your head are not actually 'ppl' you know.

blanch152

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Likely the hypocrites who can trace their family's voting habit back to Brian Boru for voting either FG or FF. Old GAA stock still with a chip about the civil war. The most ignorant and intolerant people I've ever known would go to mass of a Sunday.

Bambi wrote: »

TBH I wouldnt put it past Sinn Fein to engage in Fifth Column shenanigans in order to put the anti immigration shower in Longford beyond the pale in terms of sympathy and support. It's an issue that's really biting Sinn Fein on the arse with their supporters.

Or maybe some headers just torched his car.

Gatling wrote: »

More likely some low level sinner goon was responsible rather than some far right wannabe .

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Either QIH or internal Sinn Fein/ra turmoil, ppl are saying. Sad either way.

Is there anyone out there who hasn't been blamed for this?

The award for funniest accusation has to go to Matt for suggesting some old FF or FG cumann members hobbled over on their walking sticks to torch the poor man's car.

Heart Break Kid

Boggles wrote: »

What's a "low level sinner"?

Death threats and burning out a car would be a high level sin, no?

In the grand scheme of things its pretty low when international terrorism would be considered the bar.

Beechwoodspark

It’s pretty obvious SF jumped the shark this time and nobody is taken in by this type of craic any more.

After 50 years of the troubles is it any wonder ppl are just that little bit sceptical

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

Is there anyone out there who hasn't been blamed for this?

The award for funniest accusation has to go to Matt for suggesting some old FF or FG cumann members hobbled over on their walking sticks to torch the poor man's car.

Are you trying to say only the enfeebled and elderly vote for the FF/FG party? Have you been to Ireland?
Licking your lips hoping it's the 'RA, get up the yard
I'm practically a signed up shinner by suggesting such a thing right?

James Brown

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

It’s pretty obvious SF jumped the shark this time and nobody is taken in by this type of craic any more.

After 50 years of the troubles is it any wonder ppl are just that little bit sceptical

So SF supporters attack a SF TD over SF policy. Seems legit