Boil water notice

unkel

Irish water issued a statement that everyone in affected areas should immediately only drink boiled water

In their statement they stated the affected areas, see below

The problem here is that their organisation is so incompetent that they haven't included Lucan on that list even though we have been switched unfortunately to that contaminated crappy hard water supply from Leixlip since the start of the year

So, people of Lucan, boil your water. Don't listen to the official state resources, because they are incompetent. And wrong. Listen to me, and here's proof from their own website that indeed, Lucan is provided with Leixlip water:

https://irishwater.maps.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=56937c0ed9594e3a8d3b480571402a00&fbclid=IwAR0ZtLNtRouwU-UBsDhJLNGOA5sPdwSRkKByfD6OJgGC14f6tL1FL8LUX0Q


"Artane;
Ashtown;
Balbriggan;
Baldoyle;
Ballyboghill;
Celbridge;
Clonee;
Clonsilla;
Coolock;
Coolquoy;
Corduff;
Darndale;
Donabate;
Dunboyne;
Finglas;
Garristown;
Glasnevin;
Howth;
Kilbarrack;
Kilclone;
Killester;
Kinsaley;
Leixlip;
Lusk;
Malahide;
Maynooth;
Naul;
Palmerstown;
Poppintree;
Ronanstown;
Rush;
Skerries;
St Margaret's;
Straffan;
Sutton;
Swords."

Linky

Apologies for the rant, but how incompetent can a state organisation, with staff on very high wages paid for by you and me the tax payers get?

tricky D

Add to the incompetency the fact that both fingal.ie and water.ie websites were unresponsive/crashed afaics.

Always have a 5l stashed.

septictank

Ment to be resolved now but the water in the pipes need to be bleed and the ok given later.

1874

how long is this going on?
Never got any notification but I always understood Lucan was fed from the leixlip reservoir, I only found out that they were supplementing supply with well water after I was told at the ideal homes exhibition, and this after I pointed out the increase in residue as if the water hardness had changed over the preceding year. Any information on what the failure is? and the outcome? whats in the water as a consequence? how were they informing people in the areas it was reported in? Given the area affected, I heard absolutely nothing, that is practically a regional emergency. If its in the last week then Im not surprised as I seem to be more susceptible and was ill all last week. You cant drink bottled water and the domestic water supply is not treated, Ive honestly been considering treating my own drinking water.

septictank

6pm today I seen the first warning.

Josey Wales

Has there been any indication of how long the boil notice will be in effect?

Sleeper12

Raheny not on the list either yet a third of Raheny is effected

Sir Oxman

The map they issued was kindergarten stuff, low res, non-zoomable.
Had to rely on someone posting the Leixlip BWN map as a comment on Irish Water';s twitter account

https://irishwater.maps.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=56937c0ed9594e3a8d3b480571402a00&fbclid=IwAR0ZtLNtRouwU-UBsDhJLNGOA5sPdwSRkKByfD6OJgGC14f6tL1FL8LUX0Q

with which you can zoom into street level.

average_runner

Boil notice will remain till you hear further.

How come our major will post all the good things going on in sdcc and lucan but never the serious stuff!!!

PhilOssophy

"Ms Harris said a “small mechanical failure” at “one of the older elements” of its Leixlip plant caused the pollution."

Oh well. A water ban during the summer, another one during the snow, now a boil water. Pipes falling asunder across the country.

But isn't it great that we got rid of water charges.

average_runner

PhilOssophy wrote: »

"Ms Harris said a “small mechanical failure” at “one of the older elements” of its Leixlip plant caused the pollution."

Oh well. A water ban during the summer, another one during the snow, now a boil water. Pipes falling asunder across the country.

But isn't it great that we got rid of water charges.

We didn't, we still pay for it through our tax

Sleeper12

average_runner wrote:

We didn't, we still pay for it through our tax

This nonsense again.

Our taxes pay for a very basic water service and this is all we get. There is no money to invest in the water system. Because Irish water don't have the money to repair all of the leaky pipes they have been reducing the water pressure all over Dublin in the last few years. This means that mains water fed electric showers are failing all over Dublin because the water pressure isn't good enough to activate a pressure switch in the shower. Several times per week we have to replace these showers with tank fed showers. It's not that the mains fed shower is broken but they can no longer work because of the pressure reduction.

We won't have a decent water system in Ireland until we actually pay for it, house by house.

Spanish Eyes

Have friends living in Palmerstown. The interractive map excludes them completely i.e. East of M50 is ok, BUT.... the list of places affected actually includes this suburb.

It is mad stuff altogether, and they haven't boiled water as they assumed they were not affected via the map. They have young kids too. This is a disgraceful mess up of communications.

Pherekydes

Sleeper12 wrote: »

This means that mains water fed electric showers are failing all over Dublin because the water pressure isn't good enough to activate a pressure switch in the shower.

That's why you connect your power shower to the water tank in your attic, not the mains.

On the news, it was mentioned that normal service may not be resumed until the morning.

Sleeper12

Pherekydes wrote:

That's why you connect your power shower to the water tank in your attic, not the mains.

An electric shower isn't a power shower. They are two totally different types of showers.

givyjoe

Sleeper12 wrote: »

This nonsense again.

Our taxes pay for a very basic water service and this is all we get. There is no money to invest in the water system. Because Irish water don't have the money to repair all of the leaky pipes they have been reducing the water pressure all over Dublin in the last few years. This means that mains water fed electric showers are failing all over Dublin because the water pressure isn't good enough to activate a pressure switch in the shower. Several times per week we have to replace these showers with tank fed showers. It's not that the mains fed shower is broken but they can no longer work because of the pressure reduction.

We won't have a decent water system in Ireland until we actually pay for it, house by house.

Water charges do not solve the issue of incompetent staff and mismanagement. Irish waters handling of the issue has been nothing short of a shambles.

Sleeper12

givyjoe wrote: »

Water charges do not solve the issue of incompetent staff and mismanagement. Irish waters handling of the issue has been nothing short of a shambles.

I love how once a boil water notice hits Dublin there is an outcry. This will effect us for another day, two at most. There have been parts of the country that had to boil water for well over a year & no outcry. Our water system is a shambles & will continue to be a shambles until people pay water charges. real water charges, not the pretendy "it's in our taxes" nonsense

average_runner

Sleeper12 wrote: »

This nonsense again.

Our taxes pay for a very basic water service and this is all we get. There is no money to invest in the water system. Because Irish water don't have the money to repair all of the leaky pipes they have been reducing the water pressure all over Dublin in the last few years. This means that mains water fed electric showers are failing all over Dublin because the water pressure isn't good enough to activate a pressure switch in the shower. Several times per week we have to replace these showers with tank fed showers. It's not that the mains fed shower is broken but they can no longer work because of the pressure reduction.

We won't have a decent water system in Ireland until we actually pay for it, house by house.

I pay over 50% of my salary to taxes in this country, which is one of the highest in Europe with one of the worst public services for it.

So we do pay enough, we just need to spend the money in a more logical way and make everything more efficient.

Its like the USC tax was meant to be temporary but its not.

PhilOssophy

average_runner wrote: »

...... which is one of the highest in Europe ....

Are you sure?

Spanish Eyes

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Are you sure?

For bang for your buck probably is really.

Sir Oxman

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I love how once a boil water notice hits Dublin there is an outcry. This will effect us for another day, two at most. There have been parts of the country that had to boil water for well over a year & no outcry. Our water system is a shambles & will continue to be a shambles until people pay water charges. real water charges, not the pretendy "it's in our taxes" nonsense

BIB might have something to do with the amount of people affected - 600k

Sleeper12

average_runner wrote: »

I pay over 50% of my salary to taxes in this country, which is one of the highest in Europe with one of the worst public services for it.

So we do pay enough, we just need to spend the money in a more logical way and make everything more efficient.

Its like the USC tax was meant to be temporary but its not.

Here's the thing about water charges. Lots & lots of people pay no income tax. Not a penny. Low paid, unemployed, OAPs etc. 100s of 1000s of people paying no income tax yet getting the same services as you. Water charges if properly introduced would would catch all of these. Not the nonsense FG tried to bring in e.g. everyone pays but the water allowance exempts most OAPs, people living alone & families. This stupidity meant that the people caught for water charges were going to pay a small fortune because so many would be exempt. My household with four adults would have been paying 1200/1500 per year.



We need water charges where everyone pays. From newborn babies to OAPs. No allowance. Every 100 liters charged BUT at a much lower rate than FG wanted to charge. The present system doesn't raise enough money to improve the system AND far too many people get away without paying a penny towards water leaving you & me to carry the load.

Sleeper12

Sir Oxman wrote: »

BIB might have something to do with the amount of people affected - 600k

BUT the 600K were fully aware that parts of Ireland had boil notice for longer than a year & there was no outcry. They didn't care. Plain & simple.

Nermal

average_runner wrote: »

I pay over 50% of my salary to taxes in this country

No you don’t.

DaveyDave

Interesting that any news article I've read doesn't mention Lucan but we're on the map.

Expected to last a few days...

Sir Oxman

Sleeper12 wrote: »

BUT the 600K were fully aware that parts of Ireland had boil notice for longer than a year & there was no outcry. They didn't care. Plain & simple.

Probably (I wasn't aware of it btw), but the fact is 600k make more noise than a couple of hundred or a thousand or two.
That's life.

unkel

average_runner wrote: »

I pay over 50% of my salary to taxes in this country

With respect, nobody pays over 50% of their income in taxes in this country.

unkel

My youngest child has been sick with an upset stomach for the last few days. She drinks a lot of water. Could be worse if I hadn't copped onto the fact the Lucan gets the Leixlip water supply and I have been boiling her drinking water since last night.

Not saying this is related, I don't know. But it's a bit of a coincidence though isn't it? Several other people in my whatsapp group from my small estate (<100 houses) have reported similar issues

Mistakes can be made, but the incompetency not to have Lucan included on their list is inexcusable imho :mad:

Sir Oxman

unkel wrote: »

My youngest child has been sick with an upset stomach for the last few days. She drinks a lot of water. Could be worse if I hadn't copped onto the fact the Lucan gets the Leixlip water supply and I have been boiling her drinking water since last night.

Not saying this is related, I don't know. But it's a bit of a coincidence though isn't it? Several other people in my whatsapp group from my small estate (<100 houses) have reported similar issues

Mistakes can be made, but the incompetency not to have Lucan included on their list is inexcusable imho :mad:

Irish Water have proven themselves incompetent with this one.
From the so called map they issued to RTE and the media (non-zoomable, low res - I had to squint to see if my place was on it and even then I couldn't make it out) to the failure to have a proper text list until this morning and even then they missed out areas.
Their website crashed, no-one was manning the info phone lines or answering on social media.



Luckily I found the Leixlip BWN map posted by a member of the public on a twitter comment underneath Irish Waters twitter and finally found out my place wasn't on it by the width of a road.


Shocking stuff from IW.

average_runner

Nermal wrote: »

No you don’t.

Yes I do. When you add in PRSI, Income Tax, USC, VAT, property tax, Diesel tax, BKI on Health Insurance and I am probably missing some more.

average_runner

unkel wrote: »

With respect, nobody pays over 50% of their income in taxes in this country.

Include all the indirect taxes on your income and you do.