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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    terrydel wrote: »
    In terms of participation it's 12th on the list in this country, so hardly truly national I'd wager.
    Soccer has nothing to be insecure about, it's a global phenomenon and transcends the notion of a mere sport. It is practically an international language in many ways. Put simply, it matters. Rugby doesn't.
    Vomit! Do insecure soccer people really believe this stuff.

    Everybody knows that soccer massage their participation rates. They include 5-a -side nonsense, women, primary school participants in kickabouts.

    Rugby football is a national sport, along with Gaelic football and hurling. Soccer is something people watch on TV on miserable Wednesday evenings in Winter.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    Vomit! Do insecure soccer people really believe this stuff.

    Everybody knows that soccer massage their participation rates. They include 5-a -side nonsense, women, primary school participants in kickabouts.

    Rugby football is a national sport, along with Gaelic football and hurling. Soccer is something people watch on TV on miserable Wednesday evenings in Winter.


    john-delaney-before-the-game-390x285.jpg

    You lost me when you disregarded the inclusion of 50% of the population. Back to your private school so you can be educated into the 21st century.


  • Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭GreenandRed


    terrydel wrote: »
    In terms of participation it's 12th on the list in this country, so hardly truly national I'd wager.
    Soccer has nothing to be insecure about, it's a global phenomenon and transcends the notion of a mere sport. It is practically an international language in many ways. Put simply, it matters. Rugby doesn't.


    Soccer is competing with Netflix as 'entertainment'. The art of defending is dying as football games want to be entertaining. Man City, deemed by some 'pundits' as great team haven't a decent defender. Always good at grassroots level as are rugby, hurling, gaelic football. But when Amazon Prime tell loyal supporters what time games will be on on December 26th a day with little or no public transport you realise quickly that top level football is about greed, supporters don't matter. Pity a few quid won't be dropped over here and let the League of Ireland, not the FAI, develop the League. Proper comitted players and supporters.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    terrydel wrote: »
    You lost me when you disregarded the inclusion of 50% of the population. Back to your private school so you can be educated into the 21st century.
    johndelaney.jpg
    GAA can't lie about their participation rates as females are completely different organisations, unlike soccer, who lie about their participation rates

    Rugby football dosen't lie either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭GreenandRed


    Vomit! Do insecure soccer people really believe this stuff.

    Everybody knows that soccer massage their participation rates. They include 5-a -side nonsense, women, primary school participants in kickabouts.

    Rugby football is a national sport, along with Gaelic football and hurling. Soccer is something people watch on TV on miserable Wednesday evenings in Winter.


    john-delaney-before-the-game-390x285.jpg


    You seem to know nothing about soccer in Ireland or, indeed, any other sport. Trolling isn't a sport.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    You seem to know nothing about soccer in Ireland or, indeed, any other sport. Trolling isn't a sport.
    Lets be honest, nobody cares about soccer in Ireland. Unlike rugby and GAA it's not a national sport. Probably a regional game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭GreenandRed


    Lets be honest, nobody cares about soccer in Ireland. Unlike rugby and GAA it's not a national sport. Probably a regional game.


    A Junior C troll. Try a new keyboard to strive for the Junior Bs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    A Junior C troll. Try a new keyboard to strive for the Junior Bs.
    Junior B and Junior C is rugby football talk, exactly what I'm talking about. It's in our DNA, unlike soccer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    johndelaney.jpg
    GAA can't lie about their participation rates as females are completely different organisations, unlike soccer, who lie about their participation rates

    Rugby football dosen't lie either.

    Rugby football doesn’t lie or cheat ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Rugby football doesn’t lie ��ðŸ‘
    Soccer are so insecure!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    You seem to know nothing about soccer in Ireland or, indeed, any other sport. Trolling isn't a sport.

    He's about as good at it as our rugby 'legends' are at world cups.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    terrydel wrote: »
    He's about as good at it as our rugby 'legends' are at world cups.
    So soccer and rugby football are about the same when it comes to World Cup achievement then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    We're pretty good at showjumping, and women's hockey. Two more good respectable sports.


    Again, dont forget Eurovision..!!
    We've won it 5 times. Or is it 6. :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    washman3 wrote: »
    Again, dont forget Eurovision..!!
    We've won it 5 times. Or is it 6. :D
    They are well sick of us now though . Paddy / Biddy got carried away with themselves .


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    blinding wrote: »
    Somebody should start a drinking world cup . I’d be up for the practising and it wouldn’t be all that embarrassing if ya feel flat on your ar$e at it .

    There is one its on the 17th March every year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,542 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    No surprises that the best sport we are good at is 2 people punching the head off each other.,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Good to see a resurgence of our former national sport of cricket too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭begsbyOnaTrain


    So soccer and rugby football are about the same when it comes to World Cup achievement then.

    Well soccer has a World Cup. Whereas rugby has a "World" Cup.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    It’s not really the “world in union” the real union is the 8 nations that traditionally play rugby.

    That same 8 that effectively only really play each other in any meaningful competition / on an annual basis. Of these Ireland is still the only nation that has not made it beyond the “last” 8 of the rugby WC


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭Andreas77


    They are insecure because they realise that interest in rugby will only grow in Ireland over next twenty years. There are people who are not traditionally interested in sport that will watch rugby because it is more dramatic, primal, people enjoy to see the players pushed to limit, the physical demands, the exertion, the variety of roles and skills and physical specimens, the combination of brute force and deft hands, players playing on with fractured faces and dislocated hands due to bravery. Rugby is more interesting spectacle for average person, and provides more interesting characters. I remember many French players from last twenty years, madmen, geniuses, brutes. Fact that you mainly play against your neighbors on these islands, and in Europe, only adds to novelty of game. Main thing of interest in football is not the game, but price of players and transfer windows, moaning about penalties, poor snowflakes falling and clutching knee after trip, in which offending player never touched the victim.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    Andreas77 wrote: »
    They are insecure because they realise that interest in rugby will only grow in Ireland over next twenty years. There are people who are not traditionally interested in sport that will watch rugby because it is more dramatic, primal, people enjoy to see the players pushed to limit, the physical demands, the exertion, the variety of roles and skills and physical specimens, the combination of brute force and deft hands, players playing on with fractured faces and dislocated hands due to bravery. Rugby is more interesting spectacle for average person, and provides more interesting characters. I remember many French players from last twenty years, madmen, geniuses, brutes. Fact that you mainly play against your neighbors on these islands, and in Europe, only adds to novelty of game. Main thing of interest in football is not the game, but price of players and transfer windows, moaning about penalties, poor snowflakes falling and clutching knee after trip, in which offending player never touched the victim.

    You forgot to mention the supreme skill in booting the ball into the crowd unchallanged from a penalty. To be then rewarded with possession at the subsequent lineout. If only Messi or Ronaldo could recreate this wonderful skillset :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,973 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Bobblehats wrote: »
    It’s not really the “world in union” the real union is the 8 nations that traditionally play rugby.

    In these supposedly 'media savvy' days, are people seriously not able to interpret what are basically PR/Advertising slogans??? 'Team Of Us', 'World In Union' etc :confused:

    'Only the tastiest crumbliest chocolate' does not go into Cadbury Flake.

    Shaw's 3 stores in Ireland do not constitute 'Almost Nationwide'

    Budwieser is NOT the King of Beers (Carlsberg probably is!) and Gillette is not the best a man can get.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭begsbyOnaTrain


    Andreas77 wrote: »
    They are insecure because they realise that interest in rugby will only grow in Ireland over next twenty years. ......

    I recall Connacht nearly folding up as a team in the early 2000s. Somehow within a few years, the sport/team grew in popularity by a massive margin.

    It wasn't due to some increase in "dramatic" "primal" "brute force" on display by the players... We all know it's to do with the increase of money, the social aspirations and such that changed in the mid to late 2000s.

    My one and only trip to a match was in 2010/2011. Connacht versus Leinster. The fans from the east were decked out in head-to-toe banking paraphernalia. Waving their little BoI flags.


  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭ErnestBorgnine


    In these supposedly 'media savvy' days, are people seriously not able to interpret what are basically PR/Advertising slogans??? 'Team Of Us', 'World In Union' etc :confused:

    'Only the tastiest crumbliest chocolate' does not go into Cadbury Flake.

    Shaw's 3 stores in Ireland do not constitute 'Almost Nationwide'

    Budwieser is NOT the King of Beers (Carlsberg probably is!) and Gillette is not the best a man can get.

    That's a matter of opinion, and btw it's 'flakiest'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    In these supposedly 'media savvy' days, are people seriously not able to interpret what are basically PR/Advertising slogans??? 'Team Of Us', 'World In Union' etc :confused:

    'Only the tastiest crumbliest chocolate' does not go into Cadbury Flake.

    Shaw's 3 stores in Ireland do not constitute 'Almost Nationwide'

    Budwieser is NOT the King of Beers (Carlsberg probably is!) and Gillette is not the best a man can get.

    ...and this is NOT rugby country!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 791 ✭✭✭ArrBee


    In an effort to keep the current direction of this thread....

    What gets me is this nonsense that potatoes are somehow supposed to be really good in Ireland.

    If potato farming was a world sport where do you think Ireland would be?
    My money is on "not in the medals"


  • Registered Users Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    ArrBee wrote: »
    In an effort to keep the current direction of this thread....

    What gets me is this nonsense that potatoes are somehow supposed to be really good in Ireland.

    If potato farming was a world sport where do you think Ireland would be?
    My money is on "not in the medals"

    Would I be close if I said... 8th... again?


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,973 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    ...and this is NOT rugby country!!!

    It is if you play, watch or like the sport.

    There are people who can go through their entire lives without paying a second's attention to any sport. Get some perspective on life, sport and maybe live and let live a little?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Most people know a lot of any sports popularity is down to success. I'm late 30s and like a lot of people grew up with Jackie's army and worshipped that like we all did back then. Rugby was a lucky win against Wales in the 5 nations to avoid the wooden spoon. Fast forward after 94 soccer tournaments dried up cause we never qualified interest waned. Rugby then goes pro and slowly begins to build. Other factors kicked in like premier league getting obscenely rich. Instead of teams looking to us for young talent they were searching the world and our young fellas just weren't good enough as we didn't have the structures in place financially to compete. Couple that with still no qualification in soccer and rugby slowly building strong club competitions irish teams starting to do well focus for kids start to move to rugby. It's not a case of rich v poor its one sport wained at the same time the direct competitor internationally flourished. We can all like one sport no sports we all have our preferences in life so why is there constant bickering about which one is better. None is better. Its a choice. My choice can't be better or worse than yours by definition.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Grown ups arguing over whose sport (that they likely don't even partake in) is better. The state of yez.


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