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    #92
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    beejee wrote: »
    Nothing crazy about rational conclusion. Quite the opposite.

    Money isn't going to do sweet fa. Until an all powerful universal God starts accepting cash in hand for nixers, ain't happening.

    Chinese are the incoming global enemy, just so happens to coincide with climate disasters. Kinda perfect in a way.

    The “incoming global enemy” is good enough reason to use the ignore button. Also wondering what God has to do with anything? You posting from Kansas?


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    #93
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,843 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    Aviation isn’t a huge problem in terms of overall emissions. If there’s a ban it needs high speed rail first (and exemptions for islands). Can’t be stick and no carrot.

    Who needs sticks and carrots, looks like there's plenty of straw to go around.


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    #94
    youknowitstrue
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 27 ✭youknowitstrue


    Its a simple solution, but one that many will not like.
    If you have a field of a few acres, you can only graze a few cattle, if you put more cattle in the field there will not be enough grass, the cattle will starve and die unless you bring in extra bails of hay to feed the cattle.
    Africa is like a field that can feed only so many people, but the population keeps rising because the West keeps sending extra food to feed the increased population, this is now going to be the big issue in the coming decades as the Africa population keeps rising, they are going to overflow into Europe/Asia, this increase in populations to levels that the land cannot support will lead to famine and deaths.
    The sooner the West stops feeding Africa the better, yes 10's of millions will die, but equilibrium with the land will be obtained, a natural population will exist, the alternative is a famine in the next 100 years when 100's of millions will die.
    You have got to live within your means, and Africa currently is not


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    #95
    beejee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭beejee


    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    The “incoming global enemy” is good enough reason to use the ignore button. Also wondering what God has to do with anything? You posting from Kansas?

    Oh no, please! Anything but the ignore button, I beg you random stranger!

    You just keep on wondrin' and a truckin'


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    #96
    nkl12xtw5goz70
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭nkl12xtw5goz70


    youknowitstrue wrote: »
    If you have a field of a few acres, you can only graze a few cattle, if you put more cattle in the field there will not be enough grass, the cattle will starve and die unless you bring in extra bails of hay to feed the cattle.

    But are people stomachs, like cattle? Or are they brains?

    If we go with the "people are stomachs" assumption, and the rate of production of food remains constant, adding more people eventually leads to Malthusian starvation.

    But if we go with "people are brains," the rate of production of food is not constant — because people will use human ingenuity to innovate to produce more food and thus be able to feed more people from the same amount of land.

    This is what the Malthusian stance never adequately took into account, and it's evident even in your argument.


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    #97
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users Posts: 13,812 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    We just have to wait for Starfleet to create the replicator from TNG, we won't need to worry then!


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    #98
    Hercule Poirot
    Registered Users Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Hercule Poirot


    All natural and technological processes
    Proceed in such a way that the availability
    Of the remaining energy decreases.
    In all energy exchanges, if no energy
    Enters or leaves an isolated system
    The entropy of that system increases.
    Energy continuously flows from being
    Concentrated to becoming dispersed,
    Spread out, wasted and useless.
    New energy cannot be created and high grade energy is being destroyed.
    An economy based on endless growth is
    Unsustainable

    The fundamental laws of thermodynamics will
    Place fixed limits on technological innovation and human advancement.
    In an isolated system, the entropy
    Can only increase.
    A species set on endless growth is
    Unsustainable

    Matt Bellamy


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    #99
    Mules
    Registered Users Posts: 514 ✭✭✭Mules


    Even 20 years ago we didn't buy all the cheap throwaway stuff that we do now. We bought less things in general. It wouldn't be hard to just buy what we need but a lot of people won't do things like mend clothes, if they can get new ones dirt cheap. Either the price of those things would have to go up or there would have to be a massive cultural change.


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